Automatic V.S. Manual debate
11-13-2011, 11:02 AM
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LOL WHOS THE RETARD IN THE WHEELCHAIR.
he might have big muscles but I can run faster
hahaha
he might have big muscles but I can run faster
hahaha
That comment kind of makes you look like an ******* lol...
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That said... I don't think it's unrealistic to say that the majority of people that buy automatics simply don't know how (and don't want to learn) or simply don't care. A lot of people perceive it as an inconvenience or have a bit of apprehension about learning. The RX-8 was my first car. I had been interested in them for quite a while and had done plenty of research but I was still a little hesitant about the manual transmission. I had concerns that I would get tired of it and that it would get in the way of my enjoyment of the car. Looking at it now, it's a rather simple task but it seemed quite intimidating before I knew how to drive one. It wouldn't surprise me if that concern is what drives some people away. I chose to take the "risk" of going with manual. Others will probably be deterred.
When it comes to preferences... it's personal opinion. If someone has never driven a manual car and is able, I would highly recommend they find a way to learn before dedicating themselves to an automatic. If someone has experience with manual transmissions and they still see it as an inconvenience, then they should go with the option that will leave them most satisfied with the car. I have no problems arguing which is better with someone that has no experience driving the manual. I've driven both, so I have more first-hand experience. If you have no experience driving a manual, how can you argue with me which is a better experience? If someone has legitimately tried both and happened to enjoy the automatic, then that's their choice and it was made with experience in mind.
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That said... I don't think it's unrealistic to say that the majority of people that buy automatics simply don't know how (and don't want to learn) or simply don't care. A lot of people perceive it as an inconvenience or have a bit of apprehension about learning. The RX-8 was my first car. I had been interested in them for quite a while and had done plenty of research but I was still a little hesitant about the manual transmission. I had concerns that I would get tired of it and that it would get in the way of my enjoyment of the car. Looking at it now, it's a rather simple task but it seemed quite intimidating before I knew how to drive one. It wouldn't surprise me if that concern is what drives some people away. I chose to take the "risk" of going with manual. Others will probably be deterred.
When it comes to preferences... it's personal opinion. If someone has never driven a manual car and is able, I would highly recommend they find a way to learn before dedicating themselves to an automatic. If someone has experience with manual transmissions and they still see it as an inconvenience, then they should go with the option that will leave them most satisfied with the car. I have no problems arguing which is better with someone that has no experience driving the manual. I've driven both, so I have more first-hand experience. If you have no experience driving a manual, how can you argue with me which is a better experience? If someone has legitimately tried both and happened to enjoy the automatic, then that's their choice and it was made with experience in mind.
11-13-2011, 01:30 PM
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11-13-2011, 06:49 PM
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Warnings to others have been issued, also.
RX8 Club Rules of Conduct:
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6. Be respectful. This is harder to define, but will be moderated. An example would be disrespecting RX-8 owners who chose an automatic transmission over a manual, and "sneering" at them or acting like they're idiots for the choice they made. If a moderator believes you are being purposefully disrespectful to a fellow member, you will be notified. Bashing for the sake of bashing will not be tolerated.
11-13-2011, 08:09 PM
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Back on track, and purely for historical value: Jim Hall was one of the first to invent all kinds of aerodynamic body ideas, and win 12 hrs of Sebring, etc.
The one I liked that was banned because of lame imitators was his Automatic Chaparral 2C with a left foot pedal for the rear wing which would move into a perpendicular position to brake faster.
For you guys that have actually driven over 150 mph, you might have noticed that even a streamlined car slows down quickly to 120 when you get off the gas, so imagine if you can work the drag some more.
The one I liked that was banned because of lame imitators was his Automatic Chaparral 2C with a left foot pedal for the rear wing which would move into a perpendicular position to brake faster.
For you guys that have actually driven over 150 mph, you might have noticed that even a streamlined car slows down quickly to 120 when you get off the gas, so imagine if you can work the drag some more.
11-13-2011, 08:33 PM
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Hall's wing wasn't a braking device. It was there for downforce. The pedal was used to flatten it on the straights, to reduce drag when downforce was not needed. These days supermodifieds use that kind of wing, but with a compression strut setup so the angle changes automatically with speed.
So Hall's manual wing was banned, and eventually came back as automatic wings.
Take that, manual snobs!
Ken
11-13-2011, 09:05 PM
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It's not like I went haha you all can't drive a stick so you got an automatic hahahahahaha. That would be deserving of the comments that followed.
11-13-2011, 09:27 PM
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Hmmm.
I grew up when autos did not exist, the misses grew up on a farm driving tractors, grain trucks, semis, dirt bikes, quads, whatever. We ordered an rx8 from japan with a 6 spd auto.
"imagine that" When barb tears em up on the track and men come over to look at her car, their jaws drop even farther to see its an automatic.
Someone on here said it best. Cars go fast, people drive cars fast.
Ya more than welcome to come to the track with your stick shift and drive against a gurl with a mere 6 spd auto.
I grew up when autos did not exist, the misses grew up on a farm driving tractors, grain trucks, semis, dirt bikes, quads, whatever. We ordered an rx8 from japan with a 6 spd auto.
"imagine that" When barb tears em up on the track and men come over to look at her car, their jaws drop even farther to see its an automatic.
Someone on here said it best. Cars go fast, people drive cars fast.
Ya more than welcome to come to the track with your stick shift and drive against a gurl with a mere 6 spd auto.
11-14-2011, 01:11 AM
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I didn't buy it with "sports car" in mind. I buy cars based on their unique design merits. I bought the RX-8 because I always wanted a Wankel powered car, and the car fit me like a glove in most other ways. The other clever aspects of the design were additional side benefits. I didn't go out looking for a "sports car".
Not like im driving your car..
I'm curious as to who was issued a warning since I was called ignorant, an ******* and an idiot for making one comment to learn drive a stick because it's fun.
It's not like I went haha you all can't drive a stick so you got an automatic hahahahahaha. That would be deserving of the comments that followed.
It's not like I went haha you all can't drive a stick so you got an automatic hahahahahaha. That would be deserving of the comments that followed.
11-14-2011, 02:17 AM
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I'm curious as to who was issued a warning since I was called ignorant, an ******* and an idiot for making one comment to learn drive a stick because it's fun.
It's not like I went haha you all can't drive a stick so you got an automatic hahahahahaha. That would be deserving of the comments that followed.
It's not like I went haha you all can't drive a stick so you got an automatic hahahahahaha. That would be deserving of the comments that followed.
Like I said, your comment made you look like an *******. You quoted Pico and said that people should just learn how to drive manual. I know it was an accident, but it's kind of like making a "your mom" joke to the guy whose mother just passed away. Even if that wasn't the intent, it still looks bad. I apologize if it seriously offended you.
11-14-2011, 08:57 AM
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Just so you know (I've been warned about this myself...), you aren't supposed to question stuff like that in the thread. You have to PM a moderator to find out more information if you'd like.
Like I said, your comment made you look like an *******. You quoted Pico and said that people should just learn how to drive manual. I know it was an accident, but it's kind of like making a "your mom" joke to the guy whose mother just passed away. Even if that wasn't the intent, it still looks bad. I apologize if it seriously offended you.
Like I said, your comment made you look like an *******. You quoted Pico and said that people should just learn how to drive manual. I know it was an accident, but it's kind of like making a "your mom" joke to the guy whose mother just passed away. Even if that wasn't the intent, it still looks bad. I apologize if it seriously offended you.
For the record, I had no idea that Pico was in a wheelchair but my nevertheless my comment wasn't directed only to him anyway.
Agree to disagree.
On topic - I will give Mazda major props for their paddle shifters with up and down on each side of the wheel for one handed shifting. Seems most sport tronic or whatever you want to call it has only an up or a down on each side of the wheel.
11-14-2011, 09:30 AM
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Better?
11-14-2011, 09:46 AM
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11-14-2011, 01:40 PM
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Hahah classic!!
