Bawling about Gas Mileage!!!!
03-24-2005, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
Damn... I don't know what your Miata came with, but my '96M-Edition also had summer-only bridgestones that were only good for ~20k miles of mildly agressive driving. I replaced them with Pirellis that got about ~25k per set, but I didn't care because for 15" tires the cost was so low. I personally don't mind having low life, high-traction summer tires, but where I think Mazda screwed up is trying to please the
"fast and the furious" crowd with the stupid 18" wheels. 17's would have been just fine, and replacement wheels and tires are much, much cheaper and far more plentiful in that size. The "fast and the furious" crowd just end up buying nicer (or ricer
19" wheels instead.
"fast and the furious" crowd with the stupid 18" wheels. 17's would have been just fine, and replacement wheels and tires are much, much cheaper and far more plentiful in that size. The "fast and the furious" crowd just end up buying nicer (or ricer
19" wheels instead.I have noticed on a lot of cars these days the "warning" labels about short tread life. More or more cars with sporting intentions are coming with softer sticky tires - that do not last long. And I applaud the move. Folks don't seem to understand that soft tires = ultimate grip and that translates into better corning and better braking. Even if you are not going around 10/10ths all the time there may come a time in an emergency situation where you need all the grip the tires provide.
If this bothers folks, then they should get some 80k miles "rocks" to put on the car and give up all the performance and safety of the better tires.
The stock S02s on my S2000 lasted about 12k miles on the rear - and I am on old-fart and don't do any tire spinning launches. I DO drive the car as it was intended which does mean in a very spirited manner :D Having to replace the tires sooner than other folks is the price I pay. I think about $180 each from TireRack.
I agree about the huge (and mostly heavy) wheels they put on cars these days. Someone with a sports pack G35 was complaining about it - and in the OEM 19" size there are only 2-3 choices at TireRack and all of them are expensive. The 18" RX-8 OEM size does offer a few more choices - but as you say probably more 17" choices for less money.
Dennis
03-24-2005, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dwynne
I had a '96M myself, came with pretty sticky 'stones as well.
I have noticed on a lot of cars these days the "warning" labels about short tread life. More or more cars with sporting intentions are coming with softer sticky tires - that do not last long. And I applaud the move. Folks don't seem to understand that soft tires = ultimate grip and that translates into better corning and better braking. Even if you are not going around 10/10ths all the time there may come a time in an emergency situation where you need all the grip the tires provide.
If this bothers folks, then they should get some 80k miles "rocks" to put on the car and give up all the performance and safety of the better tires.
The stock S02s on my S2000 lasted about 12k miles on the rear - and I am on old-fart and don't do any tire spinning launches. I DO drive the car as it was intended which does mean in a very spirited manner :D Having to replace the tires sooner than other folks is the price I pay. I think about $180 each from TireRack.
I agree about the huge (and mostly heavy) wheels they put on cars these days. Someone with a sports pack G35 was complaining about it - and in the OEM 19" size there are only 2-3 choices at TireRack and all of them are expensive. The 18" RX-8 OEM size does offer a few more choices - but as you say probably more 17" choices for less money.
Dennis
I have noticed on a lot of cars these days the "warning" labels about short tread life. More or more cars with sporting intentions are coming with softer sticky tires - that do not last long. And I applaud the move. Folks don't seem to understand that soft tires = ultimate grip and that translates into better corning and better braking. Even if you are not going around 10/10ths all the time there may come a time in an emergency situation where you need all the grip the tires provide.
If this bothers folks, then they should get some 80k miles "rocks" to put on the car and give up all the performance and safety of the better tires.
The stock S02s on my S2000 lasted about 12k miles on the rear - and I am on old-fart and don't do any tire spinning launches. I DO drive the car as it was intended which does mean in a very spirited manner :D Having to replace the tires sooner than other folks is the price I pay. I think about $180 each from TireRack.
I agree about the huge (and mostly heavy) wheels they put on cars these days. Someone with a sports pack G35 was complaining about it - and in the OEM 19" size there are only 2-3 choices at TireRack and all of them are expensive. The 18" RX-8 OEM size does offer a few more choices - but as you say probably more 17" choices for less money.
Dennis
The weight of the 18's are my biggest complaint- I can't imagine how nimble the '8 would be with half the unsprung weight on each corner. Oh yeah I can... I used to own a Miata
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