Bike racks for the 8?
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From my thread: https://www.rx8club.com/new-member-forum-197/new-potential-owners-start-here-202454/
Why are we so hard / harsh on newbies?
You may notice that many new owners join this forum and promptly create a thread that generates lots of negative feedback from the people already here, the newbie ends up getting butthurt about it and claims it's a "mean forum" or "we are all dicks", etc... Not every newbie of course, and just the fact that you are reading this thread means you probably won't subject yourself to that. But why do we do it?
Here is a fantastic post from TeamRX8 on why.
Most of the people that are being the hammer for those nails use either the New Posts feature (https://www.rx8club.com/search.php?do=getnew) or the Live! feature (https://www.rx8club.com/misc.php?product=vblive) (both are in your top bar under the banner), and see posts with issues pretty quickly. We do not use these features with the express intention of flaming and bashing. We use them so that when someone posts up an actual issue that needs actual help, we can react quickly to their request.
We do not do this because we are paid to do it, we do it because we believe in our community (at one level or another). We want to improve it and make it better, so as we have time during our normal lives we look for issues we can help with, we look for new ideas, new projects, etc... But, in the process, we see all the garbage that people clutter the forum with because they feel themselves above reading what has already been posted, and that garbage gets to us. So thank you for reading, and your help is certainly appreciated in guiding people this way too.
And then there are posts like this where people realize (for themselves) where it comes from: https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/i-used-think-226225/
Why are we so hard / harsh on newbies?
You may notice that many new owners join this forum and promptly create a thread that generates lots of negative feedback from the people already here, the newbie ends up getting butthurt about it and claims it's a "mean forum" or "we are all dicks", etc... Not every newbie of course, and just the fact that you are reading this thread means you probably won't subject yourself to that. But why do we do it?
Here is a fantastic post from TeamRX8 on why.
This involves several issues. The first being that you can't see beyond your own immediate needs and wants. This is not Wiki8Club. It took many of us years and years of involvement and reading to amass the knowledge.
Imagine somebody coming here daily, in fact it is often multiple people daily, asking if not demanding the same information over and over again. We are not your on demand servants. We are people just like you with other priorities and demands in our lives, limited time, our own personal interests for being here, etc. Why should we spend that time catering to people that come here seeking instant gratification?
That leaves us with two options. We can either ignore you completely or we can tell that the info is here if you bother to make the effort. However, over several years of telling people this you eventually get fed up dealing with the continuous stream of people seeking instant gratification yet you still would rather point them in the right direction so you just bark at them to get the point across. Imagine someone coming to your house, going to your living room, pulling their pants down, and taking a dump right there on the carpet just because they didn't know any better. You might be annoyed and yet also understanding because they didn't know any better. Now imagine this being a different person doing this every day. It wouldn't be long before you just as soon they go away and never come back.
Almost every day there is some clueless dolt posting a tech or troubleshooting question in the DiY area, despite there being a sticky thread at the top saying to only post threads there with DIY instructions and subsequent discussion of same. The real issue is that people think they are free to just come here and do as they damn well please and there's no need for etiquette, rules, structure, or organization unless it serves their own personal interest.
Well guess what? We're not here to cater to new uninformed people that come in here trampling all over everything regardless if they're ignorant, just don't care, or whatever. This is like any social community and so if you make waves you better expect to deal with it. If you don't like it then get the f' out because the established community could care less about some newbie whining about not getting what they want immediately. We do care about you clogging up the search engine with useless threads on already established subjects, which there is a dedicated thread on this very subject in this same forum area no less. It took me 10 minutes to explain this. Now imagine multiple people daily requiring it, so you make a Sticky thread at the top that says "read this first" and yet every single new person just like yourself thinks they are beyond trying to fit in properly so that this forum operates smoothly for all of us.
You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.
Imagine somebody coming here daily, in fact it is often multiple people daily, asking if not demanding the same information over and over again. We are not your on demand servants. We are people just like you with other priorities and demands in our lives, limited time, our own personal interests for being here, etc. Why should we spend that time catering to people that come here seeking instant gratification?
That leaves us with two options. We can either ignore you completely or we can tell that the info is here if you bother to make the effort. However, over several years of telling people this you eventually get fed up dealing with the continuous stream of people seeking instant gratification yet you still would rather point them in the right direction so you just bark at them to get the point across. Imagine someone coming to your house, going to your living room, pulling their pants down, and taking a dump right there on the carpet just because they didn't know any better. You might be annoyed and yet also understanding because they didn't know any better. Now imagine this being a different person doing this every day. It wouldn't be long before you just as soon they go away and never come back.
Almost every day there is some clueless dolt posting a tech or troubleshooting question in the DiY area, despite there being a sticky thread at the top saying to only post threads there with DIY instructions and subsequent discussion of same. The real issue is that people think they are free to just come here and do as they damn well please and there's no need for etiquette, rules, structure, or organization unless it serves their own personal interest.
Well guess what? We're not here to cater to new uninformed people that come in here trampling all over everything regardless if they're ignorant, just don't care, or whatever. This is like any social community and so if you make waves you better expect to deal with it. If you don't like it then get the f' out because the established community could care less about some newbie whining about not getting what they want immediately. We do care about you clogging up the search engine with useless threads on already established subjects, which there is a dedicated thread on this very subject in this same forum area no less. It took me 10 minutes to explain this. Now imagine multiple people daily requiring it, so you make a Sticky thread at the top that says "read this first" and yet every single new person just like yourself thinks they are beyond trying to fit in properly so that this forum operates smoothly for all of us.
You probably don't read Japanese, but the line in my sig is a well known Japanese proverb that reads "the nail that sticks out gets hammered". You made yourself that nail.
Most of the people that are being the hammer for those nails use either the New Posts feature (https://www.rx8club.com/search.php?do=getnew) or the Live! feature (https://www.rx8club.com/misc.php?product=vblive) (both are in your top bar under the banner), and see posts with issues pretty quickly. We do not use these features with the express intention of flaming and bashing. We use them so that when someone posts up an actual issue that needs actual help, we can react quickly to their request.
We do not do this because we are paid to do it, we do it because we believe in our community (at one level or another). We want to improve it and make it better, so as we have time during our normal lives we look for issues we can help with, we look for new ideas, new projects, etc... But, in the process, we see all the garbage that people clutter the forum with because they feel themselves above reading what has already been posted, and that garbage gets to us. So thank you for reading, and your help is certainly appreciated in guiding people this way too.
And then there are posts like this where people realize (for themselves) where it comes from: https://www.rx8club.com/lounge-4/i-used-think-226225/
I used to think that long time members of this forum who flamed noobs for asking questions such as : is my car flooded, how do I de flood, which exhaust should I buy, which turbo, how much HP etc etc , were just being quite rude or flaming for their self gratification, but over the last few day's I have been trolling through many threads and have come to the conclusion I was wrong. There are a lot of very stupid and lazy people out there.
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I'd much rather you spend half of your day learning about your car while you search for answers, than waste half of my day spoon feeding you answers that i spent the time to research myself.
Usually it isn't just one answer. More questions follow that require more answers. In the end, it would have been easier and quicker for the newb to just search and learn something along the way.
I'm using you in place of "ALL OF THE NEWBS THAT DON'T BOTHER TO SEARCH," not to single you out.
#30
Chill dudes and ride down a mountain!
OK so here is a recent thread marked "Bike racks for the 8" - hooooray. But it seems to have degenerated into the usual "use the search" tosh. Now if you are angry, pre menstrual (male or female) or just a grump look away now and enjoy playing with your toys in the corner.
The most useful resource of a forum is PEOPLE not stored knowledge - although that can be bloody useful too. Search CAN be fine but info is often without useful context (will a bike rack that worked on a 2003 work on a 2005 etc) so I like to ask helpful, knowledgeable people.
I am currently resealing leaky rear lights (what WERE Mazda thinking), finally burying a GROM USB/BT kit properly in the center consle and enjoying the benefits of my lovely BHR ignition system (highly recommended). (BTW a nice idiot proof "Find the missing bolt" DIY will be uploaded shortly.) None of this would have been possible for me without some kindly advice and encouragement of PEOPLE here.
Anyhow......
I live at the base of a mountain and cycling downhill 8k feet is fun. I have spent 20 mins looking here but not found anything really on point.
Has anyone had a good experience with a bike rack ideally on the trunk lid of a 2005 with a spoiler. If they have and spot this in the next week or two perhaps they could post the info here. After all this is a nice shiny new thread and it does say "Bike rack" in the subject line. Or could we have a nice sticky with USEFUL info - 'cause there is a lot of crap out there.... Off to search 5 mins more.
Aloha love and cuddles.
Steve
PS Pls forgive the happy/combative tone of this note - the car is FINALLY beginning to go well so I am rather pleased with myself and everyone here who has helped me.
The most useful resource of a forum is PEOPLE not stored knowledge - although that can be bloody useful too. Search CAN be fine but info is often without useful context (will a bike rack that worked on a 2003 work on a 2005 etc) so I like to ask helpful, knowledgeable people.
I am currently resealing leaky rear lights (what WERE Mazda thinking), finally burying a GROM USB/BT kit properly in the center consle and enjoying the benefits of my lovely BHR ignition system (highly recommended). (BTW a nice idiot proof "Find the missing bolt" DIY will be uploaded shortly.) None of this would have been possible for me without some kindly advice and encouragement of PEOPLE here.
Anyhow......
I live at the base of a mountain and cycling downhill 8k feet is fun. I have spent 20 mins looking here but not found anything really on point.
Has anyone had a good experience with a bike rack ideally on the trunk lid of a 2005 with a spoiler. If they have and spot this in the next week or two perhaps they could post the info here. After all this is a nice shiny new thread and it does say "Bike rack" in the subject line. Or could we have a nice sticky with USEFUL info - 'cause there is a lot of crap out there.... Off to search 5 mins more.
Aloha love and cuddles.
Steve
PS Pls forgive the happy/combative tone of this note - the car is FINALLY beginning to go well so I am rather pleased with myself and everyone here who has helped me.
#31
I bought the yakima rack a few years ago. It does not work well for this car. There is little area for the clips to grab to. The rack slides and scratches the paint and the door is too close to the clips. The last time i checked Thule did not even offer a roof rack for this car. I trasported surf boards and i suspect bikes woul put more load on the rack pulling it in all directions. Sorry to disappoint you.
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