good cause i don't plan on doing the recall anytime soon. and since i moved tince in the last month i have yet to get my recall letter, so i can play the ignorance card

 

Well, but if you're on 50K ish miles, you might want to do the recall first before your extended warranty runs out. Just to be safe, ya kwow my man ~

 

Hey guys. I am a conventional oil user and my engine blew? Could it be because I mentioned using synthetic sometime in the future?

 

Yes, you're right. because you betray the Non-Synthetic Empire, your engine has been cursed.

So does your future engines. Theres no forgiveness !!!! Until you get rid of Synthetic oil in your mind !

 

ahahahaha, your engine got scared?

 

I think so Blue. Everytime I say "Synthetic", the engine starts to sputter then dies.

Hmmm, you think Mazda will perform a vaccum test on my brain? I have been thinking synthetic for 15k miles now. Will they be able to see that I have synthetic on my mind? In the early and sometimes late hours I find that I have powerloss.

 

oh SNAP!

 

Yeah that's Mazda's excuse for not tunning the car properly.

 

Well, Mazda created a great design You guys gotta admit that, we cant really blame them for the tunning because NA is a *special* stupid Ford owned market, no engine recall for the rest of the world besdies NA so you know ....

but yeah .... it took Mazda how many years to tune protege ......

 

Didnt you know that theres a mind reading machine in every rx8 out there? they cannot read anything else but the word *Synthetic* in your brain. They decode them and send it over to Mazda's HQ by Lasers for processing.Then their HQ will return an encrypted code using sucky AES to the ECU so it will turn into limp mode.

 

Agree 100%. Didn't find an obvious duplicate of this poll, and it is worth seeing the results. It should make it pretty easy to say Mazda is making synth. oil a scapegoat.

 

the tsb is for europe.. not the usa... and the epa is the scapegoat for mazda tuning... or mazdas fault for trying to extend cat life...

beers

 

what's the epa... don't flame me you ********.

 

search bitch!

enviromental protection agency...

the guys that give us cats...

beers

 

and is this thing on??? country in europe??? give us a clue...

please help us here... we dont have a clue.

beers

 

Thank you

Its just sad that those crying babies would never listen no matter how many proof we shown them. They just gonna listen to what Mazda's lawyers said.

 

No way! Someone must have paid you to say that or you must have thought synthetic and your engine exploded. Either way synthetic was the cause.

 

My 8's engine, actually the whole drivetrain will soon self-destruct because I've been feeding her Synthetic Oil since 1000 miles !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now maybe I should start writing my Will ... After my 8 blow up and kill me, I would love to it the reminds of it to my brother .... but remember do NOT put Synthetic or Think of it or else you have to write another will brother .....


But seriously, what happen to all those anti-synthetic crying babies, they never show up when you need them.

 

I think syn / dino oil debate threads s/b banned...
It's like talking about religion or politics here - sheesh!

This poll is interesting and useful - and it's NOT a syn / dino debate. The syn oil folks here who are up in arms over this should be in favor of keeping it open becuase so far from the results, there's clearly no correlation between the type of oil used and engine failure.

 

the point is that, so far, its about the same AND we're not even sure if some of the *dino* lover or *Synthetic* lover actually vote the opposite just to make the other side look bad.

this thread is completely stupid in the first place. IT has been PROVEN that Synthetic does not cause problems, the problem is with the gas we put in, and people who baby their freaking engine. but no matter what, crying babies will just listen to whatever they love to hear(Dino oil), and ignore all other facts, and would not listen to Stuff that they dont like(for example Mazda does not recommend Aftermarket parts, but Dino babies still put them in, wtf is that)

 

You cockbag you had to flame me anyway huh! haha!

 

here i am. actually mentioned this to brillo awhile ago in a conversation. re reading some of the recall documents Ive come to a different understanding of some of the syntax used.

first- Mazda is concerned about the extra buildup left over when burnign some synths. its not lawyer talk its fact- some synths leave deposits when burned that in combination with the carbon buildup causes issues. this buildup can cause engine problems. just the few reports we've had here of carboned up APVs should be enough for anyone to believe it.

but the part im understanding the recall has to do with the emissions part of the recall. i believe that one thing they are worried about is the deposits leaving the engine then burning in the CAT. this material burns at a high temp causing over heating of the CATs and excellerating the premature failure.

this is only a theory of mine with no proof yet other than some wording in the recall documents that suggested it to me. i have of course emailed Mazda for some information. They seemed to be "receptive" to the idea of some technical answers, so we'll see what they say.

 

I believe the problem is within the stuff that oil companies added to their oil. and those are the stuff that causes problems. Since to be Synthetic you have to be at least Group IV or V, and those are known to be more *pure* than the regular oil.

but my question is, some oil companies put the excat same thing to their Mineral lineup, and what Im thinking is that, everyone for some reason pay special attention to Synthetic oils. but what about non-synthetic ones with the same addons ?

There are alot of failed engines eats nothing but Mineral oils for their life, still have carbon and stuff. but no one really look into that.

 

dont get me wrong- its definetly an additive or combination of additives that are being looked at. or rather the deposits left after those additives have been through a combustion cycle. i was told earlier this year that Mazda was having the dealerships send in oil samples of what the service center usually buys in order for MNAO to "approve" its use or not. maybe not all but definetly some were doing so. And yes mazda is looking at all the variations as of course it is not THE determining factor. but it is/was a factor that keeps/kept coming up so they had to address it.

 

Had there not been such a debate of good/bad of synthetic for the renesis, I'd be using synthetic oil. However, I use regular oil that the dealer puts in (free oil changes for life) and top off with Castrol GTX. I think it would be interesting to know if they have determined what additives may be the cause of the problem. My family has always used synthetic in their regular piston engines without problems but I'm the only one with a rotary so I don't have much frame of reference. It'd also be interesting to know if there is a significant difference in how the oil burns compared to in a regular engine based on the design that would make it more likely to be a problem in a rotary versus piston.

What do you use zoom?