can turbo 8 beat stock sti??
03-13-2009, 09:54 AM
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Dom: You almost had me? You never had me - you never had your car... Granny shiftin' not double clutchin' like you should. You're lucky that hundred shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake! You almost had me?
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03-13-2009, 10:19 AM
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I can't believe you guys - my modded NA RX8 was about 2 cars lengths slower than a stock STI
from a roll down a 1/2 mile straight (track).
My turbo 8 (290hp -300hp) will absolutely kill a stock STI . Not even close ....
I'm 100% sure i would even kill one on 5lbs of boost
from a roll down a 1/2 mile straight (track).
My turbo 8 (290hp -300hp) will absolutely kill a stock STI . Not even close ....
I'm 100% sure i would even kill one on 5lbs of boost
I don't know the specs of your particular car so I won't call BS but I have seen plenty of Turboed RX-8's run at the drag strip and not one has touched lower than a 13.4 or so and the one that did was beyond an out of the box turbo kit. Like I said earlier, its all about the driver but if both cars are driven well the STI will own in the 1/4 mile.
If a turbo civic can beat an sti what do you think an RX8 can do?
03-13-2009, 10:33 AM
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i agree with most of the people the sti will own in a 1/4 mile the awd will wreck. I had a gsx with about 400whp and it would kill this rx8 i had at the track i know its not an sti but i mean its about the same awd and turboed but i mean yea.
and i agree with 9k about the honda civics this kid i know just turboed a b18 and as much as i make fun of kids with huge wings multi-colored kits and an exhuast that sounds like my echo weedwacker his civic is freaking nasty and would never race it unless i know i had atleast 350whp.
and i agree with 9k about the honda civics this kid i know just turboed a b18 and as much as i make fun of kids with huge wings multi-colored kits and an exhuast that sounds like my echo weedwacker his civic is freaking nasty and would never race it unless i know i had atleast 350whp.
03-13-2009, 10:45 AM
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Yes and a turbocharged Civic is still a Civic and an Impreza is still an Impreza at the end of the day, I would never wanna roll up to the Valets at Morton's along side all those Porches and Mercs in a Civic or an Impreza but I do it proudly in my RX8 and most of the time people are gawking because they don't know that my beautiful red sports car is a Mazda.
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03-13-2009, 10:59 AM
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Ok I will say this. I bet you that an RX8 with MM's turbo kit at 12 psi will walk an STI no problem in the street. In the 1/4 mile it would be closer since the STI has awd but I will still root for the RX8 and I think it has the capability of killing it.
Aside from that I would not be ashamed of arriving at a valet a Morton's on an STI cause after the eat I could go and beat a porshce with a cheaper car. I love the STI and would trade my 8 for an STI in a heartbeat.
Aside from that I would not be ashamed of arriving at a valet a Morton's on an STI cause after the eat I could go and beat a porshce with a cheaper car. I love the STI and would trade my 8 for an STI in a heartbeat.
03-13-2009, 11:10 AM
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03-13-2009, 11:19 AM
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what is wrong with you guys?
1) do all of you think a "race" is just mashing a gas pedal and going in a straight line?
2) Mazdamaniac's absolutely destroyed an STi while even with ChickenWafer (250+ lbs) AND Charles R. Hill in the car.
You guys need to give our cars a little more credit...
1) do all of you think a "race" is just mashing a gas pedal and going in a straight line?
2) Mazdamaniac's absolutely destroyed an STi while even with ChickenWafer (250+ lbs) AND Charles R. Hill in the car.
You guys need to give our cars a little more credit...
03-13-2009, 11:20 AM
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Yeah, I don't think you can compare MM's car to the average turboed 8 though. Also, again just because he beat an STI doesn't mean **** if that guy cannot drive. I have beaten cars at the track I should not have beaten too. I have have seen C6's run low 13's too but it does not mean **** as to what the car is capable of.
What? A 1978 Porsche? Even a base Boxster does 0-100 in the low 13's, every other late model Porsche would own a stock STI badly.
Aside from that I would not be ashamed of arriving at a valet a Morton's on an STI cause after the eat I could go and beat a porshce with a cheaper car
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03-13-2009, 11:26 AM
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Ok I will say this. I bet you that an RX8 with MM's turbo kit at 12 psi will walk an STI no problem in the street. In the 1/4 mile it would be closer since the STI has awd but I will still root for the RX8 and I think it has the capability of killing it.
Aside from that I would not be ashamed of arriving at a valet a Morton's on an STI cause after the eat I could go and beat a porshce with a cheaper car. I love the STI and would trade my 8 for an STI in a heartbeat.
Aside from that I would not be ashamed of arriving at a valet a Morton's on an STI cause after the eat I could go and beat a porshce with a cheaper car. I love the STI and would trade my 8 for an STI in a heartbeat.
03-13-2009, 11:56 AM
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Yeah, I don't think you can compare MM's car to the average turboed 8 though. Also, again just because he beat an STI doesn't mean **** if that guy cannot drive. I have beaten cars at the track I should not have beaten too. I have have seen C6's run low 13's too but it does not mean **** as to what the car is capable of.
What? A 1978 Porsche? Even a base Boxster does 0-100 in the low 13's, every other late model Porsche would own a stock STI badly.
What? A 1978 Porsche? Even a base Boxster does 0-100 in the low 13's, every other late model Porsche would own a stock STI badly.
It was a straight line race, no skill required.
Turbo 8 beat the crap out of an Sti.
Isn't that what this (lame) thread is about?
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03-13-2009, 11:58 AM
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03-13-2009, 12:03 PM
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With a nicely tuned turbo and lots of weight reductions I see no reason why the 8 wouldn't walk a tuned sti. I mean there are plenty of 7's out there that can do it with ease..
Isn't the biggest difference between turbo 8 and turbo FD rx-7 is the weight?? Or am I wrong?
Isn't the biggest difference between turbo 8 and turbo FD rx-7 is the weight?? Or am I wrong?
03-13-2009, 12:07 PM
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Take it to a race track. Stock RX-8 vs stock STi. If you are a better driver you will win.
Granted the STi is 1-2 seconds faster/lap depending on the track, but a faster driver can be 10 seconds faster/lap.
Granted the STi is 1-2 seconds faster/lap depending on the track, but a faster driver can be 10 seconds faster/lap.
. I bet the RX8 wins real quick.
03-13-2009, 12:27 PM
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Well this is another story because I did not buy the STI because it was 46k while my 8 was 34k, but if I would have had the money I would have bought an STI. That or a 135i which was 52k but I know I could have gone a bit lower.
03-13-2009, 12:40 PM
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I don't know the specs of your particular car so I won't call BS but I have seen plenty of Turboed RX-8's run at the drag strip and not one has touched lower than a 13.4 or so and the one that did was beyond an out of the box turbo kit. Like I said earlier, its all about the driver but if both cars are driven well the STI will own in the 1/4 mile.
I hate to break it to you but most of the Civic motors are far more bulletproof for drag racing than an RX-8 will ever be. A stock B series can handle 400WHP all day long.
I hate to break it to you but most of the Civic motors are far more bulletproof for drag racing than an RX-8 will ever be. A stock B series can handle 400WHP all day long.
03-13-2009, 12:48 PM
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Though, if we're judging a heavily modded 8 against an STI, why is that even fair? Why even stop there? Then we'd have to consider what a twin turboed 20B rx8 would do to an STI. And what about upgrades for the STI as well?
...upgrade the STI to 4 rotor of course, that's the only logical step XD
03-13-2009, 01:30 PM
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I can only speak to what I have seen at an actual track. A properly tuned properly built turbo kit could definitely propel an RX-8 to beat a stock STI but the fact is that those cars are few and far between. On the street anything can beat anything because its not a controlled environment.
I'm just saying that if the average owner goes out and buys a Greddy kit and has it installed on their 8, they will not beat a stock STI. It's plain and simple. I know three people locally with the Greddy kit and none with MM's more superior kit.
Red Rex,
You got owned sucka!!!
I'm just saying that if the average owner goes out and buys a Greddy kit and has it installed on their 8, they will not beat a stock STI. It's plain and simple. I know three people locally with the Greddy kit and none with MM's more superior kit.
Red Rex,
You got owned sucka!!!
03-13-2009, 01:36 PM
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I can only speak to what I have seen at an actual track...
...I'm just saying that if the average owner goes out and buys a Greddy kit and has it installed on their 8, they will not beat a stock STI. It's plain and simple. I know three people locally with the Greddy kit and none with MM's more superior kit.
Red Rex,
You got owned sucka!!!
...I'm just saying that if the average owner goes out and buys a Greddy kit and has it installed on their 8, they will not beat a stock STI. It's plain and simple. I know three people locally with the Greddy kit and none with MM's more superior kit.
Red Rex,
You got owned sucka!!!
See the mention of his friend's car and him asking about a rolling start??? Does that sound like they're going to a track
NO!
Also, your mention of a Greddy Turbo.
I'll go on record here and now: anyone who buys a base greddy turbo for an RX-8 is an idiot. Plain and simple.
Why do people insist on buying inferior products? Save up and do it RIGHT. We all know the Greddy is garbage, won't hold boost at the higher RPM's, and will not last long.
Get a properly sized turbo if you want to compete against a car who already has a properly sized turbo.
You need to get out more, I know a few locals here who have MM upgraded turbos.
ive been wondering how effective rx8 turbos are, i know they range from
300whp to 400, but i wana hear from those of you who have them, how does the car launch?? good bad or ok
i know it has no chance on a launch against the 4 wheel drive of the sti, but on a roll?
just thought it would be interesting.. ive waited to beat my friend
"cocky sti driver"
300whp to 400, but i wana hear from those of you who have them, how does the car launch?? good bad or ok
i know it has no chance on a launch against the 4 wheel drive of the sti, but on a roll?
just thought it would be interesting.. ive waited to beat my friend
"cocky sti driver"
03-13-2009, 02:03 PM
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further to what Jedi said .
I have raced STOCK STIs at the track (not that 1/4 mile ****) a proper race and my modded NA 8 was only marginally slower - never done it from a standing start so I'm not going to go there .
An 8 with a properly tuned greddy turbo putting out 260ish whp will own a STOCK STI from a roll - full stop . If the STI wins - it is not stock .
I have raced STOCK STIs at the track (not that 1/4 mile ****) a proper race and my modded NA 8 was only marginally slower - never done it from a standing start so I'm not going to go there .
An 8 with a properly tuned greddy turbo putting out 260ish whp will own a STOCK STI from a roll - full stop . If the STI wins - it is not stock .
03-13-2009, 02:06 PM
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YOU think it's confusing, you should see ME!!
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Then I notice it's Brettus...
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Then I notice it's Brettus...