lVoiDl

Ok so one of the tac welds came loose on the clutch petal bracket and caused the petal to wiggle back and forth. Not much but enough to cause issues I guess.

So now a few weeks later the petal does not come all the back up from the floor. I push it to the floor and it only comes up about half way. If you look there are 2 sensors one on the back when you push to the floor and one in the front of the pedal that gets pushed in when the petal comes back. It will only come back as far as the sensor in the back is like just resting on it.

Any Ideas i am taking it to the dealer on Wednesday so i will try anything until then.

Razz1

Hurry, go to BHR and get a replacement.

PM Charles R Hill

Hurry!

Otherwise dealer prices will kill you.

SilverHokie

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BHR makes an excellent solution to this unfortunate problem, but I will ALWAYS make those mf's at Mazda pay for unacceptable **** like that. Drive safe.

How many miles on your vehicle?

kersh4w

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check my sig. they are cheap, and work EXTREMELY well. i couldnt imagine the difference would be so large.

lVoiDl

66k but if I look at the service record it looks like they replaced the engine and reset the odo at 22k....sooo 88k I would guess.

laythor

if you can get a dealership to repair that under warranty with those miles then you're doing better then most.

lVoiDl

They said its probably not covered under the 100,000 extended powertrain warr...

I could not find BHRs site any one have a link? I am not sure what I need the reinforcement kit right? This will solve the problem completely or do i need to get it fixed first then install the kit?

Are these easy to self install are non standard tools needed?

laythor

PM Charles R Hill. he's the VP aka King Ding-a-ling of BHR. Some of the nicest and most helpful people you'll ever do business with.

here's a link https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/news-about-bhrs-reinforced-clutch-pedals-167511/


when he mentions "usual warranty" he means lifetime

Charles R. Hill

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There are two generally-accepted fixes for this particular problem. One is to get the Fluid/Mazsport clutch pedal bracket and bolt it to the pedal assembly. Another is to reinforce-weld the pedal assembly. Many people have this done for themselves by a local welder while others have BHR do the welding for them. I prefer the welding option, as welds tend to hold better than bolt-on brackets (as a general concept), regardless of whether BHR is the one doing the welds or not.

G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY

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clutch petal? or pedal?

i honestly think either fix is good. the bracket or the welding.. but i have no personal experience with the welding solution. Both seem to do the job and charles has great customer service

Charles R. Hill

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In this case I am encouraging the OP to try and get a brand-new pedal from Mazda and then take it to a local shop for welding. THIS would be the ultimate solution, but that is just my opinion..........

Of course, Mazda will try their usual tap-dance and argue and all that but I think it is worth a shot before spending a lot of money on a pedal. Plus, local welding will be rather cheap as well.

alz0rz

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while I have tried to cease all car related purchases.. I need to take care of my clutch pedal..

it's begun to squeak more often now and it even has a "whine" now.. bah.

lVoiDl

Well I am going to see if I can get them to fix it under the warr hopefully they don't put up much of a fight.

Razz1

That's your throw out bearing.

Think abought it. The pedal is just a piece of metal attached to hydraulic pump.

How does the metal whine?

alz0rz

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I know what the throw out bearing sounds like as I need to replace that too.

This sound is localized to the pedal or the clutch master cylinder.

Maybe whine was a bad word to describe it.. but it is NOT the bearing.

lVoiDl

Ok the car is at the dealer and it didn't seem like he wanted to replaced it. He said this was not something "THEY" would consider the extended 8 year warranty would cover.

He said it would be 48 to 97 to check it out and I should get a call tomorrow.

Jedi54

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extended warranty will most likely not cover this.
I would go with the BHR solution since the welds are already broken, I doubt the mazsport (aka fluid) bracket will help much.

Charles R. Hill

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Don't waste the money as you already KNOW what is wrong. I may not be able to use the core return so I am next suggesting getting the welded version from me for $350, shipped. The welding service is guaranteed for life.

BTW, I suggested to the OP that he make it a safety issue, mention reporting to NHTSA, and walking the concern up the ladder. Also mention that it is far more expensive to replace a trans than it is a stupid pedal.

Brettus

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yeah - petals are really fragile . Pedals on the other hand should be made to take the abuse - for some reason RHD versions don't have this issue .

lVoiDl

Who is the OP and I don't really think me saying that I was going to mention to MHTSA is going to make him change his mind. I think he is just going to tell me to get lost. I mean he is just doing his job and its not like I can force him to do anything. It would be great but I think if he says no there is no much I can do.

When you say MHTSA do you mean NHTSA(National Highway Traffic Safety Administration)

Also I am a bit confused as far as the welding goes how are you going to mail me something that needs to be welded onto my car it looks like its been bolted on then welded.

Is there by change a diagram for the install maybe I just don't understand how this thing is in my car. From what I have looked at there should be no reason its not coming back up from the floor. It just started to wiggle left and right after the weld broke and after about a week after that the petal just started to get stuck. What could be causing the petal to not come back up I highly doubt its the weld. The welds just seem to hold it steady and keep it from moving side to side?

Charles R. Hill

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Never mind.

nycgps

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u still under warranty ?

if yes then, just make appointment @ Wayne, on the way there maybe 300 ft away from the dealership, Take a wrench out and "disconnect" the welds ... hehe :P

I was really lucky cuz When mine broke, I was done with driving. car parked and push the pedal in trying to lock the car in gear 1 .... *crack*


if u're not under warranty ... you can do one of the following ...

- Buy a new one, Weld it at some place or yourself, install it
- Buy BHR one, instal it.
- Buy the bracket from Fluid, take your old one out, install it.
- Buy a new one, install it. and wait another 50K miles b4 it breaks again lol


https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-trouble-shooting-95/clutch-pedal-snap-off-8-year-warranty-recall-%7E%7E%7E-132912/

Please read my thread. and report your issue to NHTSA

They really should make this a recall. and make some "newer" pedal that wouldn't break like this. (Hell, even my Honda FIT's pedal is much stronger than this PoS, at 1/2 cost.)

lVoiDl

Ok so the dealer just gave me a call and told me 534 with tax to fix the petal.....275 for the parts the rest is labor. I told him that the assembly is defective and they go bad and he told me that Mazda will not cover it because its not part of the extended 100,000 mile warranty. If i tell him to just order the part for me how how hard is the new petal and the assembly to put in and then what do i have to do to make sure this does not happen again.

Charles R. Hill

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You can get the pedal assembly for almost $100 less than that, the swap labor is fairly easy, and you can have the new pedal reinforcement welded by a local welder for pretty cheap, too. Then, your problem will be solved for good.

Try to network with other RX-8 owners in your area as they may be able to help you with the swap.

Flashwing

If you are past your powertrain warranty of 50,000 or 60,000 miles then sadly it sounds like your only option would be a welded pedal or a bracket. Transmission related parts would be covered under the normal powertrain but the extended only covers the motor itself.

The only way to prevent this from happening again is to either get the new clutch pedal welded or a reinforced bracket. That's your only two choices. Chances are the pedal will break again since Mazda has done nothing to address the issue.

Beat me to it, yep that's the best advice.