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02-07-2003, 05:08 PM
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Yeah, it is a good idea- but only if you do it yourself with one of the kits available (they cost about $29-$39, look here or here ), or get the police to do it (They'll do it for free in some cases). My point was that convincing customers to pay $300 for it is just a way of padding dealer pockets, since it's just as easy to do it yourself for cheaper.
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02-07-2003, 05:47 PM
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Just to add fuel to the fire I do have retail pricing on the RX-8.
6-Speed Hi Power Version @ 68,500.00 NZD
4-Speed Automatic Version @ 65,500.00 NZD
Divide that by 2 to get USD :D
Also when do you US guys get the RX-8 ?
6-Speed Hi Power Version @ 68,500.00 NZD
4-Speed Automatic Version @ 65,500.00 NZD
Divide that by 2 to get USD :D
Also when do you US guys get the RX-8 ?
02-07-2003, 06:11 PM
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Actually they do....I hear what your saying and I am impressed with oyur faith in Mazda....however, I think a trip to www.alldata.com to see all the recalls and TSBs on paints and dash plastics in the last 12 years might open your eyes a bit.. the most famous example of course being the afore mentioned 1993 RX-7.
I never said it was a good option, or something I reccomneded to others, but in a world where other dealers are marking up the cars to heaven's knows what prices it is a reasonable alternative... especially since you don't have much choice... Haas is up front about it..$33.100 driveout.. loaded TT&L..it doesnt make them great or anything...
make mine Titanium and with 6 forward gears... Zoom Zoom...
I never said it was a good option, or something I reccomneded to others, but in a world where other dealers are marking up the cars to heaven's knows what prices it is a reasonable alternative... especially since you don't have much choice... Haas is up front about it..$33.100 driveout.. loaded TT&L..it doesnt make them great or anything...
make mine Titanium and with 6 forward gears... Zoom Zoom...
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I promise you. Mazda doesn't make such crappy cars that the paint/leather should need a warranty over top of whatever the 48 month/50k mile warranty covers.
I promise you. Mazda doesn't make such crappy cars that the paint/leather should need a warranty over top of whatever the 48 month/50k mile warranty covers.
02-07-2003, 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by Elara
My point was that convincing customers to pay $300 for it is just a way of padding dealer pockets, since it's just as easy to do it yourself for cheaper.
My point was that convincing customers to pay $300 for it is just a way of padding dealer pockets, since it's just as easy to do it yourself for cheaper.
02-09-2003, 04:15 PM
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For $300 US I could buy enough Zaino products to last me 10 years. 
I never understood the "processing fee".. don't the clerks get paid a yearly salary to do this? Why do we have to pay extra on top?
I never understood the "processing fee".. don't the clerks get paid a yearly salary to do this? Why do we have to pay extra on top?
02-11-2003, 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by zoom44
hey elara as far as window etching goes it might be a good idea. i saw a program on discover recently about recovering stolen vehicles. they were able to find most of the parts from one vehicle, that had been stripped and strewn about a junkyard, back to its owner because of VIN number etching on all of the glass. the chop shop had removed 90% of the vin #'s elsewhere on the car but had not gone to the trouble of replacing all of the windows. they also tracked one that they found that had been stolen, sold at an auction to a dealer and then sold as a used vehicle to an unknowing customer. because of the vin etched glass they were able to trace the owner who it was stolen from and return it to them. so it does help, if your vehicle is ever stolen, in the recovery and prosecution of the chop shops and thieves.
hey elara as far as window etching goes it might be a good idea. i saw a program on discover recently about recovering stolen vehicles. they were able to find most of the parts from one vehicle, that had been stripped and strewn about a junkyard, back to its owner because of VIN number etching on all of the glass. the chop shop had removed 90% of the vin #'s elsewhere on the car but had not gone to the trouble of replacing all of the windows. they also tracked one that they found that had been stolen, sold at an auction to a dealer and then sold as a used vehicle to an unknowing customer. because of the vin etched glass they were able to trace the owner who it was stolen from and return it to them. so it does help, if your vehicle is ever stolen, in the recovery and prosecution of the chop shops and thieves.
02-11-2003, 12:26 PM
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it makes sense when the car hasn't been stripped but just given false papers and sold at an auction. the more places the vin is on a car the less likely they are going to erase all of them. and no one wants to go to the expense of replacing all of the glass.
02-11-2003, 01:11 PM
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menlo mazda
one guy on the mazda6 forums (www.goonish.com/atenza) said he had a very nice experience at Menlo Mazda in Redwood City with a salesguy named Andy. he also mentioned that the sunnyvale dealer wasn't too great which you probably know by now. menlo mazda is off the Whipple exit on 101 i think.
didn't take time to wade through the thread, so sorry if this info has already been posted.
didn't take time to wade through the thread, so sorry if this info has already been posted.
02-12-2003, 03:49 PM
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Dealers in the US cannot legally sell NEW cars in NEW CAR department over MSRP. What they might do, it's buy them for themself & transfer them to USED car sales lot & sell them for more over MSRP. This it's currently being done with most high-end Benz & BMW.. I've been seeing this tactics used in S2000, G35 & Rx-8... But, you can complain the dealer to the manufactures consumer affairs. Since now, some manf. like Nissan/Mercedes are cracking on those dealers.
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02-12-2003, 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by amgtortoise
Dealers in the US cannot legally sell NEW cars in NEW CAR department over MSRP. What they might do, it's buy them for themself & transfer them to USED car sales lot & sell them for more over MSRP. This it's currently being done with most high-end Benz & BMW.. I've been seeing this tactics used in S2000, G35 & Rx-8... But, you can complain the dealer to the manufactures consumer affairs. Since now, some manf. like Nissan/Mercedes are cracking on those dealers.
Dealers in the US cannot legally sell NEW cars in NEW CAR department over MSRP. What they might do, it's buy them for themself & transfer them to USED car sales lot & sell them for more over MSRP. This it's currently being done with most high-end Benz & BMW.. I've been seeing this tactics used in S2000, G35 & Rx-8... But, you can complain the dealer to the manufactures consumer affairs. Since now, some manf. like Nissan/Mercedes are cracking on those dealers.
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