mikeb

someone finally gave ike the wrx forum
good one

Racer X-8

MSRP is alive & well at the dealership that I frequent. No stretch & no lie. They're pulling fast ones on the options too I think. Still selling very well @ that $.

Keep dreaming, losers.

Competition results are coming in now. MSRP + ?

klegg

Yup, seems like the car will be doing very well for mazda, which is a good thing.

I wonder what wrx and evo sales look like?
I also wonder how the hardtop TT is selling, at least in the US
For that matter, G35 sales.

Now, if we were to all add IKE to our ignore list, he could post to empty air. Just a thought.

Tronics

Those are just #'s, not any real hard data or information that the RX-8 is doing/not doing well in the market. To get accurate data, much more work would have to be done such as, how many people came into the Mazda dealership, of those how many inquired about the RX-8, of those how many were looking for another car but was/was not intrested in the RX-8 after looking at it. How many people that were intrested buyers turned away, and what factors caused them to do so? By simply stating the profit margine does not mean the demand for a particular car/car company is high, nor does it state their popularity. Wasn't GM the highest grossing car manufacturer last year? (correct me if I'm mistaken) But to me, GM would not be my first choice of a car. But I like many others hope Mazda does something to keep the rotary alive...I'd give it another 6-8 months before one can really determine how influencial the 8 has had on the market. But I can assure you all of us on this board are strong believers in the rotary, otherwise we wouldn't be here. Unless your name is Ike.:D

klegg

I agree with you tronics, the fact that the 8 made it to market, and so much of it done so well, really makes you want to stand up for mazda.

One of the "little" companys that have done it a whole new way...

Elara

At the beginning of September, Mazda had a 57 day average inventory (cars on lot, at port, etc) of 8s at dealers, which for the traditionally slow months of August and September was fairly low. For comparison, Chrysler had a 81 day inventory of Crossfires. I'm still waiting to see results for all of September, but they're probably the same if not better. Especially if the gauge of new owners popping up on here is at all accurate.

Ike

Forgive me for actually posting real numbers with facts behind them, I'll be more biased towards the 8 from now on, I've seen the light! If someone can give me one good reason why what I posted was wrong and what is so bothersome about it I'll leave this forum on my own free will. All I was doing is repeating sales goals that mazda has released to every car publication in the country.

Klegg, if you must know the WRX more than doubled Subaru's sales goals for the US it's first year of production.

Ike

Tronics

1 car, 1 car company. It's cheap (24k?) and has a stock turbo, to me it was the first AWD turbo car to be introduced to the American public. Hell, if I didnt have the cash to afford something nicer, I'd get a WRX too. :D

Quick_lude

I'm not a big fan of the wrx styling inside and out but to call Subaru a one car company is just plain ignorant.. unless you were joking?

m477

I can get a 6MT for under $25k at my dealer.... but that is only because they are willing to let me use a Ford S-plan discount if I buy one. However, this is because I'm so near Detroit and employee discounts on any vehicle are pretty much expected.

Anyway, it seems the demand is pretty good, since people are generally paying MSRP for the car, and I see one almost everyday in my area.

P00Man

now now...stop it with the tears...

rx-8 should do very well
yeah, they do have to sell a lot of cars during some of the slowest times of the year, but with advertising just picking up, and the fact that they are still flying off the lots (according to some salespeople) they should be able to come very close to that mark, if not exceeding it
________
THE CIGAR BOSS

zthang

I hear ya Ike, if youre not biased towards the 8 on this board...you definitely won't feel welcome. Even if you post nothing but facts...

renotse

zthang,

DUH




Get It Now??

Ike

It doesn't have to be like that and it's not like that on all the other car forums I visit regularly. Sure you will get some bias for the car the board is about, but it doesn't come anywhere near what it's like here. Maybe it's because it's a new car and a new board, I also think the mods don't discourage it, and often join in the bashing of other cars and people that come here that don't own the RX-8. But don't get me wrong, a lot of the people here are great and know the limitations of the car, will not be so quick to call someone a troll or insult someone just because they have an oppinion that they don't like, or doesn't make the RX-8 sparkle.

Tronics

1 car 1 company = its only one car and one company that was able to sell double what they had projected. Not subaru is a 1 car company.

Ike

My intention of saying that was not to rub it in or to say that's what the RX-8 should be. Someone asked a stupid question about the EVO and the WRX, so I answered. If you own the car there really isn't much need to worry about it's sales since you have little control oevr how many sell. It would be interesting to see how often carmakers meet or exceed their projected sales goals and how often they fall short.

Ike

klegg

hmmmm, now we should not worry about sales????????
Before you were pointing out your "opinion" that sales were down........ No further comment needed here...

Racer X-8

I like Ike. He's in my top 5 for his avatar. Love it.:D

Y'all gotta stop bashing poor Ike. He's been here longer than any of the recent Ike bashers & he's probably more knowledgable than 90% of 'em.

I thought we had him seriously leaning towards buying an 8. Now we gotta start all over again.

Ike, why don't you come back as a girl. They'll take a whole month or more to catch on...:p (Just pm me to let me know if you do...hah!)

Ike

Do you like blondes, redheads, or brunettes?




Klegg, reading comprehension is a good thing. Exactly what have I said to lead you to believe RX-8 owners should worry about sales? I simply posted some numbers that Mazda released, you're reaching here, get a grip and stop trying to put words into my mouth! You contesting everything I say is getting very old and you're making yourself look dumb.


Ike

Racer X-8

Blond, blue eyes & real young :p

klegg

Gee Ike, I was simply pointing out that you are talking out of both sides of your mouth.....really you are getting very defensive......

Ike

If they're old enough to crawl they're.... oh god what am I saying... you are a sick sick man :p

RX8-TX

Can some of us admit that we overreacted, and for once in a lifetime (hint hint....any dream theater fans??!) SHUT THE FxxK UP.

Discussions are GOOD.
Debates are PRODUCTIVE.
Talking shitz (like me right now!) is PLAIN STUPID.
And I'd pay to see Ike & Klegg huggin'!!

And can we go back to RX8 sales, and how do YOU think they'll do? - I believe there won't much more noise than what we had so far, until they really rock the media with Ads.

C'mon, even Subaru entered into the media blitz with a WRX commercial; down here in TX, not a second goes by without seeing a Fx50 truck ad; even Hyundai is on prime time. And MAZDA!???!!?....they are still advertising Proteges!!!!! (j/k)
They were more aggresive with the 6 than what they are showing with the RX8.

In all, I don't think they are trying to break any record anytime soon. This sounds more like a 'no comproise' market research-type of thing --and well, no compromise minus $500.00 + a couple millions for an angry mob of owners that want FREE MAINTENANCE + as many freebies as I can get! (j/k, again)

Chill! & cheers!

Racer X-8

ROFL

I hit my limit on that one. OK, over the edge, maybe?

Title "How To Know If You've Failed As A Parent" :D

Skyline Maniac

Not sure where graphicguy gets 7000 and someone else intepret it as 8000. Here are the facts.

RX-8 North America sales figure:

July: 1342
August: 2209
September: 2105
Total through September: 5456 (appx 10 weeks)


RX-8 Japanese market sales / production numbers:

April: 1791 / 2301
May: 2978 / 5151
June: 1911 / 6981
July: 2393 / 8044
August: 1302 / 6121
Sept: NA
(Production close to 30,000 for 6 month)
(sales close to 10375 in Japan)

The RX-8 seems to sell better in Japan than in the US.

klegg, I don't know about WRX or Evo sales, but the G35 sales I know. PM me if you really want to know.