Do you think the 370z will handles as good as the 09 RX-8?
02-23-2009, 10:34 AM
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Do you think the 370z will handles as good as the 09 RX-8?
Do you think the 370z will handles as good as the 09 RX-8? Obviously the 350Z can't in the twisties (unless it's the Nisimo) but the New Nissan is it equal to or superior to the RX-8 Now, in the twisties? In the straight theres never been any question since 2004.
On paper it seems to be Superior but ink and paper lie sometimes. Some say the 370Z jumps the Cayman in overall perform and like the RX-8 betters the Germans performance = price wise.
Of course in all honest-nessity niether equals the Porshces curb side appeal imho. Strange that Porsche Pureist seem to not think much of the Cayman/Boxster???
Cayman is best handling Porsche available under $70k imho.
What is your take on the main topic? New Z vs. new 8 in the twisties.
On paper it seems to be Superior but ink and paper lie sometimes. Some say the 370Z jumps the Cayman in overall perform and like the RX-8 betters the Germans performance = price wise.
Of course in all honest-nessity niether equals the Porshces curb side appeal imho. Strange that Porsche Pureist seem to not think much of the Cayman/Boxster???
Cayman is best handling Porsche available under $70k imho.
What is your take on the main topic? New Z vs. new 8 in the twisties.
02-23-2009, 11:12 AM
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The 8 will out-handle most anything. I don't suspect the 370Z will fare much better. Not to say that the gap may be closed a bit thereby equalling the 8, but its hard to out perform it.
Neither the CaymanS nor the BoxsterS is the same kind of animal...you can be a horrible driver and look like you know what you are doing. Kinda takes the fun out of the whole thing...definitely takes out the skill of the driver.
Hardly seems worth it to me...if I didn't want my driving skills to matter I would take a taxi.
Neither the CaymanS nor the BoxsterS is the same kind of animal...you can be a horrible driver and look like you know what you are doing. Kinda takes the fun out of the whole thing...definitely takes out the skill of the driver.
Hardly seems worth it to me...if I didn't want my driving skills to matter I would take a taxi.
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02-23-2009, 11:20 AM
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These types of threads crack me up. You cannot claim the 350z cannot handle as well as the rx8, if you do you are simply following the thrend that this website has set.
2007 350z Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g (car and driver)
2004 rx8 Skidpad .93g (car and driver)
2009 370z 0.97 g (car and driver)
The Z has been an equal in handling (if not better on some courses) and superior on power. And i own an rx8.
2007 350z Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g (car and driver)
2004 rx8 Skidpad .93g (car and driver)
2009 370z 0.97 g (car and driver)
The Z has been an equal in handling (if not better on some courses) and superior on power. And i own an rx8.
02-23-2009, 11:53 AM
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I honestly don't like alot of z and g35 g37 drivers for there cockyness but I doubt that the 8 can stand a chance against them. Car vs car the Z takes it, after that it depends on who's driving. I went head up against Z's few times and won most because the drivers were just kids trying to be cool which dissapointed me because those cars deserve better drivers
02-23-2009, 11:54 AM
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Every discussion on handling is subjective of course...but when talking about handling on it's own (for cars we mere mortals can afford) you can't discuss handling without mentioning the 8. Even when discussing cars $30k-$40k more than the 8 it is still in the discussion. There is a reason the 8 took 4th in the 2008 handling comparison...It's that good.
Unfortunately, when you throw power delivery into the mix (not just handling) the 8 is in a much smaller crowd. Mazda needs to fix that.
Unfortunately, when you throw power delivery into the mix (not just handling) the 8 is in a much smaller crowd. Mazda needs to fix that.
02-23-2009, 12:13 PM
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Magazine Racing/Internet Racing by pure numbers is a fool's game. The way a car "feels" to it's driver is based upon a myriad of variables not to mention even more preferences. Certainly a Z is a vastly capable car (moreso for it's pricepoint) but if you prefer how it gets to those numbers that are published is up to you.
Just for the record and so one can define why I might be able to speak about any of this from somewhere other than my rectum.........I owned an S2k for 2 years, then a 350Z for about 3 years and just traded it (the Z) in on my RX a few weeks ago.....
The Z is a beast, it's got torque in gobs and makes nice noises as it's doing it. I learned to trust that yes, she WOULD stick around a corner and not get out of hand but it took a long while (coming out of the S) to accept what I felt like was WAAAAY too much heft and body roll. Meaning, yes, it will corner, it will CERTAINLY out accellerate but I (my preference) never liked the way it went about it's motions. I never fell in love w/ that car like I had my S.
Buying the RX has me back in what I feel like a sports car should be, it "feels" light and nimble to me, it tosses around nicely and talks to me right as the rear tires give up their grip. I am back to grinning when I drive and looking for excuses to go get my wife something from the store, it's a liberating feeling.
All this said, it's up to each person what facets of a car they like, you may like that monster feeling the Z gives and if so by all means.........but I'll stay in the camp with those that "are following the trend this website has set" that think that the RX far outhandles a Z. We had a G35c for my wife in there too BTW which I actually preferred for several reasons over the Z but that's a different discussion
Just for the record and so one can define why I might be able to speak about any of this from somewhere other than my rectum.........I owned an S2k for 2 years, then a 350Z for about 3 years and just traded it (the Z) in on my RX a few weeks ago.....
The Z is a beast, it's got torque in gobs and makes nice noises as it's doing it. I learned to trust that yes, she WOULD stick around a corner and not get out of hand but it took a long while (coming out of the S) to accept what I felt like was WAAAAY too much heft and body roll. Meaning, yes, it will corner, it will CERTAINLY out accellerate but I (my preference) never liked the way it went about it's motions. I never fell in love w/ that car like I had my S.
Buying the RX has me back in what I feel like a sports car should be, it "feels" light and nimble to me, it tosses around nicely and talks to me right as the rear tires give up their grip. I am back to grinning when I drive and looking for excuses to go get my wife something from the store, it's a liberating feeling.
All this said, it's up to each person what facets of a car they like, you may like that monster feeling the Z gives and if so by all means.........but I'll stay in the camp with those that "are following the trend this website has set" that think that the RX far outhandles a Z. We had a G35c for my wife in there too BTW which I actually preferred for several reasons over the Z but that's a different discussion
02-23-2009, 12:35 PM
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These types of threads crack me up. You cannot claim the 350z cannot handle as well as the rx8, if you do you are simply following the thrend that this website has set.
2007 350z Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g (car and driver)
2004 rx8 Skidpad .93g (car and driver)
2009 370z 0.97 g (car and driver)
The Z has been an equal in handling (if not better on some courses) and superior on power. And i own an rx8.
2007 350z Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g (car and driver)
2004 rx8 Skidpad .93g (car and driver)
2009 370z 0.97 g (car and driver)
The Z has been an equal in handling (if not better on some courses) and superior on power. And i own an rx8.
Skidpad numbers only show grip. Slap a set of R-compounds on a Corolla and you can achieve the same numbers. Try again.
02-23-2009, 01:12 PM
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02-23-2009, 01:23 PM
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tis the nature of an internet forum, at least one that keeps going, that there will always be people that ask, asked questions, people that answer asked questions and people that are tired of seeing them :D
Glad to be a noob for a little while, leaves some of us that haven't seen it all
....do clear corners add HP?.......(sorry, couldn't resist)
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....do clear corners add HP?.......(sorry, couldn't resist)
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Oh, that's right...this is the place we are supposed to login and endlessly search because everything to be said has already been said.
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...SO unless you have something totally new that has never ever been mentioned before keep your mouth shut and go look it up in encyclopedia search-tannica.
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02-23-2009, 01:27 PM
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02-23-2009, 01:43 PM
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Oh, that's right...this is the place we are supposed to login and endlessly search because everything to be said has already been said.
...SO unless you have something totally new that has never ever been mentioned before keep your mouth shut and go look it up in encyclopedia search-tannica.
Some things will always be talked about over and over and over and over again...but isn't that the point? Continuing discussion of things that are on our minds? Show me someone that's ever had a meaningful discussion with a search engine.
...SO unless you have something totally new that has never ever been mentioned before keep your mouth shut and go look it up in encyclopedia search-tannica.
Some things will always be talked about over and over and over and over again...but isn't that the point? Continuing discussion of things that are on our minds? Show me someone that's ever had a meaningful discussion with a search engine.
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