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Old 01-06-2005, 07:31 PM
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Face to Face talk with Mazda NA rep about 2 door rotory :)

Guys/Gals,

I know there have been a bunch of rumors floating around on a new RX-7. I went to the horses mouth today. Went to visit a friend of mine who happens to work at a Mazda Dealership. While I was there I ran into a Mazda North America rep who was there trying to sell the GM of the dealership into participating in the Mazdaspeed program. Well, I managed to talk to the rep about a few things concerning the RX-8. Here was what we talked about:

First question I asked was about the Mazdaspeed Mazda 6 having more power than the RX-8. I told him this may be a problem with the RX-8 being the flagship car for Mazda. His responce was that before the Mazdaspeed 6 comes out the RX-8 will get a needed 'pick me up', his words. He couldn't elaborate anymore on that subject.

Second question I asked him was about any other rotory models coming out, specifially a 2 door rotory that ends in 7. Again, he kind of danced around the question but finally coughed up that a 2door rotory with a larger displacement engine is in the works and IS slated for release for the 2006 model year. He wouldn't tell me what it was called, but I could only guess that it's the RX-7 reborn.

Anyhow, I suppose the safe thing to do is take this with a grain of salt. However, why would a Mazda North America rep bend the truth? Hopefuly both are going to be true.

-Jon
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According to this article, the 7 is a done deal for 2006:
http://motoring.nzoom.com/motoring_d...88-389,00.html
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Originally Posted by G8rboy
According to this article, the 7 is a done deal for 2006:
http://motoring.nzoom.com/motoring_d...88-389,00.html
I thought people on this forum were discounting that as a rumor?
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Hmm.. 225kW.. that's about 303hp.. not bad
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in 10 years ill sell teh 8 maybe and buy the new 7 woot.
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Originally Posted by magixpuma
in 10 years ill sell teh 8 maybe and buy the new 7 woot.
I was just thinking the same thing. Great minds think alike.
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so in 2006 Mazda will still be producing the RX-8 AND also the new RX-7?
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WOOT. But think of it like this the rx1 will have like 600 hp the way mazda seems to work.
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Originally Posted by \\Konig\\
so in 2006 Mazda will still be producing the RX-8 AND also the new RX-7?
I think it's still up in the air. I just started this thread to let you guys know what the Mazda North America rep I spoke to told me. I think he would be a pretty reputable source of information I am not even sure if they will call it an RX-7, he wouldn't tell me what the car would be called, just that a 2 door rotory is definately in the works.
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Originally Posted by philodox
I think it's still up in the air. I just started this thread to let you guys know what the Mazda North America rep I spoke to told me. I think he would be a pretty reputable source of information I am not even sure if they will call it an RX-7, he wouldn't tell me what the car would be called, just that a 2 door rotory is definately in the works.
i see...
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More power for the 8? Hmm... wider rotors or a bada$$ port job sounds good to me. I like N/A.
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BS...Mazda NA operations doesn't know jack...FAR FAR too much R&D went into the Renesis...if anything I'd expect a MS 8 in the future with FI...

I don't believe anything that anyone says at any dealership.
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Originally Posted by philodox
Guys/Gals,

I know there have been a bunch of rumors floating around on a new RX-7. I went to the horses mouth today. Went to visit a friend of mine who happens to work at a Mazda Dealership. While I was there I ran into a Mazda North America rep who was there trying to sell the GM of the dealership into participating in the Mazdaspeed program. Well, I managed to talk to the rep about a few things concerning the RX-8. Here was what we talked about:

First question I asked was about the Mazdaspeed Mazda 6 having more power than the RX-8. I told him this may be a problem with the RX-8 being the flagship car for Mazda. His responce was that before the Mazdaspeed 6 comes out the RX-8 will get a needed 'pick me up', his words. He couldn't elaborate anymore on that subject.

Second question I asked him was about any other rotory models coming out, specifially a 2 door rotory that ends in 7. Again, he kind of danced around the question but finally coughed up that a 2door rotory with a larger displacement engine is in the works and IS slated for release for the 2006 model year. He wouldn't tell me what it was called, but I could only guess that it's the RX-7 reborn.

Anyhow, I suppose the safe thing to do is take this with a grain of salt. However, why would a Mazda North America rep bend the truth? Hopefuly both are going to be true.

-Jon

How could the 8 get a needed"Pick me up" before the MS6 comes out?I ask because the MS6 is slated for this upcoming summer as a release,and the RX-8 will not even be in a normal production phase(due to the fire),let alone a re-tooling to give it more power.

I can't discredit any info as far as the 2 door rotary is concerned,but the RX-8 getting more power before the MS6 comes out seems unlikely,and as far as larger displacement is concerned I would bet instead of wider rotors it would have 3 rotors instead of 2,but I find that highly unlikely as well.I will wait to see.
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Originally Posted by Mazdax605
How could the 8 get a needed"Pick me up" before the MS6 comes out?I ask because the MS6 is slated for this upcoming summer as a release,and the RX-8 will not even be in a normal production phase(due to the fire),let alone a re-tooling to give it more power.
Hold on man, don't need to jump down my throat for just relaying information I was told.. Hell it could be something they do to the RX-8 at port, like when they put on all the accesseries and crap like that




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BS...Mazda NA operations doesn't know jack...FAR FAR too much R&D went into the Renesis...if anything I'd expect a MS 8 in the future with FI...

I don't believe anything that anyone says at any dealership.
Oh my bad.. I suppose that the Mazdaspeed representative doesn't know what he is talking about.. man.. the glass really is half empty for you isn't it? j/k

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the RX-8 will not even be in a normal production phase(due to the fire),let alone a re-tooling to give it more power.
Why would you think that you'd have to re-tool to install a higher output engine? They may have to change a few small things here and there, but they wouldn't have to change much.
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I think the most positive reinforcement of a new RX-7 was in a recent Car & Driver where they said a new RX-7 WILL be made as opposed to "could be" or "maybe". A larger displacement engine is the way to go IMO. How about a nice NA 2.0L with 360hp?
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This alleged 'pick me up' could be in the form of an ECU reflash. That is the only plausible explanation of more power or whatever before the MS6 comes out.
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^ You show us a half-empty glass and expect us to be optimistic??? :p
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Originally Posted by philodox
Hold on man, don't need to jump down my throat for just relaying information I was told.. Hell it could be something they do to the RX-8 at port, like when they put on all the accesseries and crap like that






I didn't intend to jump down your throat.I was just being sceptical about what you were told.I don't believe the RX-8 will get any more power between now and summer,which is only 5 months away.Especially with the fire I mentioned at the plant effectivly shutting down production of the car.Plus they would **** off a whole bunch of 04 and early 05 owners by giving the new 05 from here til summer a boost in power.

I don't doubt the RX-8 will get a boost in power at some time,but I am sceptical it will be so soon.I think maybe this guy was just telling you what you wanted to hear.I also feel it is a mistake to give the MS6 more power,and AWD before the RX-8(their flagship and highest priced car)gets more power,and more refinment,especially seeing as the MS6 will be cheaper,and perform better.

Bad Move Mazda

Oh yeah I do love my car by the way even being lowish on power compared to other cars,but I may get a MS6 when my lease is up in 06.If the prices are what the magazines are projecting I bet Mazda has a hit on there hands with the MS6.

I love the rotary,and own several of them,but the idea of a direct-injected turbo-charged AWD car that hauls more people,and stuff is quite compeling,especially at the price.

Again I am sorry if I came off as jumping down your throat,that wasn't my intention.
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Originally Posted by Mazdax605
I didn't intend to jump down your throat.I was just being sceptical about what you were told.I don't believe the RX-8 will get any more power between now and summer,which is only 5 months away.Especially with the fire I mentioned at the plant effectivly shutting down production of the car.Plus they would **** off a whole bunch of 04 and early 05 owners by giving the new 05 from here til summer a boost in power.

I don't doubt the RX-8 will get a boost in power at some time,but I am sceptical it will be so soon.I think maybe this guy was just telling you what you wanted to hear.I also feel it is a mistake to give the MS6 more power,and AWD before the RX-8(their flagship and highest priced car)gets more power,and more refinment,especially seeing as the MS6 will be cheaper,and perform better.

Bad Move Mazda

Oh yeah I do love my car by the way even being lowish on power compared to other cars,but I may get a MS6 when my lease is up in 06.If the prices are what the magazines are projecting I bet Mazda has a hit on there hands with the MS6.

I love the rotary,and own several of them,but the idea of a direct-injected turbo-charged AWD car that hauls more people,and stuff is quite compeling,especially at the price.

Again I am sorry if I came off as jumping down your throat,that wasn't my intention.
No worries man, I was having a rough morning
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Oh my bad.. I suppose that the Mazdaspeed representative doesn't know what he is talking about.. man.. the glass really is half empty for you isn't it? j/k
Well, the Mazdaspeed Reps at the SEMA show didn't know jack, so a "salesman" for Mazdaspeed wouldn't impress me either. I think we all know salesmen are the least reliable source of info.
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he wasn't a salesmen for the dealership.. he was a rep from MNA to get the dealer to renew their mazdaspeed status. heh.. but like I said, I'm just informing whoever cares about what I was told.. i'm a 'believe it when i see it' type person, so i'll hold my opinions on what's coming to myself
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Sounds like a tell-you-what-you-want-to-hear guy to me


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