Fastest 0-60 of a stock rx-8
#51
Originally Posted by RoXanneBlack8
seriosuly, id love to start the auto 4 port debate but, itd be typing for hours, those cars suck azz.
yeah 5.8 was some hero on CD, but if anyone asks me what itd do i say low 6s bc i like to round down and besides, mere math would tell u a 5.8 run from these cars, u gotta be Jesus or the Stig to complete that
yeah 5.8 was some hero on CD, but if anyone asks me what itd do i say low 6s bc i like to round down and besides, mere math would tell u a 5.8 run from these cars, u gotta be Jesus or the Stig to complete that
and these days 6sec only sucks the left azz cheek.
#54
anyone can depend on big, powerful engines to get good 0-60 times, even 1/4 miles....
not everybody know how to drive a car and not every car can handle itself with excelence in a track....
Driving in a straight line is boring and does not require a lot of skill.....
not everybody know how to drive a car and not every car can handle itself with excelence in a track....
Driving in a straight line is boring and does not require a lot of skill.....
#58
Originally Posted by puch96
anyone can depend on big, powerful engines to get good 0-60 times, even 1/4 miles....
not everybody know how to drive a car and not every car can handle itself with excelence in a track....
Driving in a straight line is boring and does not require a lot of skill.....
not everybody know how to drive a car and not every car can handle itself with excelence in a track....
Driving in a straight line is boring and does not require a lot of skill.....
#59
Originally Posted by therm8
I agree whole heartedly. However that excuse is used often to brush off poor straightline performance. Acceleration, particularly from low speeds is a big part of roadcourse driving (depending, of course, on how technical the track is).
#62
Originally Posted by 9291150
You're kinda contradicting yourself. Using only the best time as you suggest DEFINETLY won't "give you a good estimate of real world performance by a good driver in everyday conditions." It may only suggest the best time that a car is capable of in optimal conditions using the best driver and a top running car.
Using a simple average, in this case using 11 tests on the same car from the three most respected sources with similar procedure and standards, that's the best way you can say with confidence that the 8 is a 6.1/14.6/95mph car...not a 5.8/14.4/97mph car or a 6.6/15.1/92 mph car.
6.1/14.6/95mph (corrected, as all mag tests are) is what it is normally able to do in capable hands. Not fast by today's standards, but quick enough to be fun.
Using a simple average, in this case using 11 tests on the same car from the three most respected sources with similar procedure and standards, that's the best way you can say with confidence that the 8 is a 6.1/14.6/95mph car...not a 5.8/14.4/97mph car or a 6.6/15.1/92 mph car.
6.1/14.6/95mph (corrected, as all mag tests are) is what it is normally able to do in capable hands. Not fast by today's standards, but quick enough to be fun.
im comparing mag racing vs real world. average of mag stats is not real world, mag stats are done by professional test drivers who do these things all the times with professional equipments. taking the average times of these professional magazine test drivers does not reflect real world performance by a average good driver. good luck on trying to do 6.1s 0-60 in the real world by a average good driver, and hope that tranny last after all those high rpm clutch drops. Even for the mag folks who do this for a living, it requires many many attempts before they get the time that actually goes into the mag because it takes a lot of finess feathering the clutch and gas just right, and its hard even for those people to reproduce those mag times consistently.
In fact this is what happens most of the time when you try to do it in real life, you drop the clutch and you just end up spunning your tires around going no where, and your time end up worse than not doing a clutch drop. its especially hard for high reving cars where the rpm needs to be high to get good power and torque.
without a good high rpm launch, it takes a while to rev up into the good part of the power band, you wont get anything close to 6.1s either.
as far as mag racing /bench racing or whatever you wanna call it is concerned, they are a bench mark of what the car can do, thus it makes sense to use the fastest time. please dont confuse mag racing vs real world conditions. its great to know that car X can do time Y and its useful to know it. but taking the average of these mag stats does not reflect real world performance, because its quite a bit slower than most mag times. and that goes for all cars not just rx8.
there are always a few drivers that can reproduce or even better the mag times, but they are the exception not the norm, and even they cant do it consistently either. the OP asked for the fasted 0-60 for rx8, and its 5.8s.
the rx8 is a 5.8 second car period. thats how its always worked in the enthusiast communities. whether you can reproduce that is up to you.
Last edited by playdoh43; 04-25-2007 at 12:34 AM.
#63
6.05
this was before my new motor and my flywheel and clutch change..
the clutch was feathered from ~ 4.5 k rpm... that clutch made it to 55k miles.. it would have gone another 10 to 15k more..
mods at the time were intake, hiflowcat, and i think the corksport was on it at the time..
the transmission is still fine at 68k miles.
beers
this was before my new motor and my flywheel and clutch change..
the clutch was feathered from ~ 4.5 k rpm... that clutch made it to 55k miles.. it would have gone another 10 to 15k more..
mods at the time were intake, hiflowcat, and i think the corksport was on it at the time..
the transmission is still fine at 68k miles.
beers
#64
best I did before the flywheel was 6.3-6.4 . Getting the 5.85 time above was a one off fluke as I've tried several times to match it but can't . I only did it to see what diff my mods made & once youv'e smelt the burning clutch a few times you get over it & realise the car is not made to be treated like that .
#65
exactly, the evo is known as a low 13s car, but on the track driven by enthusiasts, i see mostly 14s or higher. same goes for the 350Z known as a high 13s car, most of the times i see are in the 14s and 15s. taking the average of car mag stats will land quite a bit faster than real world performance for both cars.
if you are going to bench race with numbers that takes dozens of tries to achieve, might as well use the fastest mag time since they are essentially a bench mark, not the norm. taking averages of bench marks does not reflect everyday skills and conditions.
if you are going to bench race with numbers that takes dozens of tries to achieve, might as well use the fastest mag time since they are essentially a bench mark, not the norm. taking averages of bench marks does not reflect everyday skills and conditions.
#66
Originally Posted by Brettus
best I did before the flywheel was 6.3-6.4 . Getting the 5.85 time above was a one off fluke as I've tried several times to match it but can't . I only did it to see what diff my mods made & once youv'e smelt the burning clutch a few times you get over it & realise the car is not made to be treated like that .
beers
#67
When the RX-8 came out 6 sec 0-60 was decent. Since then, there's been a race to do well in 0-60 by many car makers. So the sports car standard is more 5 sec 0-60. Exotic and really expensive cars would be in the 4s or better at 0-60.
Now the other thing the RX-8 has going for it, is the ability to hit turns hard, to keep going AFTER 0-60 and the 1/4 mile. The RX-8 can definitely get up there (top speed) if given the room. So, the RX-8 is still a good sport's car. The focus on 0-60 is that the RX-8 is so good of a sports car that people want it to be perfect and blow the doors off of people in short distance.
The RX-8 is simply going to need more HP juice to bring the times into consistent 5 sec and low 5s. My problem though, is there are RX-8s with turbo and supercharger kits, but you don't see them post 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.
Now, I know 0-60 may still be a problem for an aftermarket turbo, but they "should" show up in 1/4 mile times and why not post those??? The newer superchargers twinscrew and AFSC should show up in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times too. So I hope they post some numbers.
G-Techs and G-Timers ( I have one) are pretty cheap and its really easy to hook them up and use them.
Another way to evaluate the performance of the RX-8 is its times from say 40 to 60 mph to 100 mph. On the move the RX-8 can make up ground, especially with a good turbo or supercharger kit.
Now the other thing the RX-8 has going for it, is the ability to hit turns hard, to keep going AFTER 0-60 and the 1/4 mile. The RX-8 can definitely get up there (top speed) if given the room. So, the RX-8 is still a good sport's car. The focus on 0-60 is that the RX-8 is so good of a sports car that people want it to be perfect and blow the doors off of people in short distance.
The RX-8 is simply going to need more HP juice to bring the times into consistent 5 sec and low 5s. My problem though, is there are RX-8s with turbo and supercharger kits, but you don't see them post 0-60 or 1/4 mile times.
Now, I know 0-60 may still be a problem for an aftermarket turbo, but they "should" show up in 1/4 mile times and why not post those??? The newer superchargers twinscrew and AFSC should show up in 0-60 and 1/4 mile times too. So I hope they post some numbers.
G-Techs and G-Timers ( I have one) are pretty cheap and its really easy to hook them up and use them.
Another way to evaluate the performance of the RX-8 is its times from say 40 to 60 mph to 100 mph. On the move the RX-8 can make up ground, especially with a good turbo or supercharger kit.
#71
Search? I did a search looking for the same thing a long time ago and found my answer as to the turbo 1/4 and 0-60...
I think you'll have problems w/ people telling you thier 0-60 cause most people dont care enough to find out.
Then you have the other crowd like me who use the car for what it was designed for and track it.
Out of curiosity...you have an AT...so why do you care?
I think you'll have problems w/ people telling you thier 0-60 cause most people dont care enough to find out.
Then you have the other crowd like me who use the car for what it was designed for and track it.
Out of curiosity...you have an AT...so why do you care?
#72
because obviously, I like to find out, so when I put in my mods........
btw.....does me having an auto hurt you in anyway shape or form? if someone wants to trade their 07 manual for my 07 auto right now I'd do it, so yea, I can drive manual, why I bought it? because its cheaper, I think buying this car for 22k and spending the other 5-6k putting in a turbo would be better and faster than your manual........thanks
and this is a perfect setup a for good phrase=หนักหัวพ่อมึงหรอไง <- in which you do not understand
btw.....does me having an auto hurt you in anyway shape or form? if someone wants to trade their 07 manual for my 07 auto right now I'd do it, so yea, I can drive manual, why I bought it? because its cheaper, I think buying this car for 22k and spending the other 5-6k putting in a turbo would be better and faster than your manual........thanks
and this is a perfect setup a for good phrase=หนักหัวพ่อมึงหรอไง <- in which you do not understand
#73
Well I was asking not as an insult but as a...Autos will never come close to performing as well as a standard. Even with a turbo your reliability is going to go down the drain pretty fast. You'll suffer lots of drivetrain loss and to top it off its not going to perform as close to the maximum potential due to the ECU limiting the performance.
And for the record mister smarty pants..I got my 05 standard for a fraction of what you paid...and the cash I saved IS going to go into a kit...mines lighter than yours too...standard again FTW!
You might want to ask Pettit (specifically MoonAssad) about supercharging your AT...he might also have some estimated times for you too...
And for the record mister smarty pants..I got my 05 standard for a fraction of what you paid...and the cash I saved IS going to go into a kit...mines lighter than yours too...standard again FTW!
You might want to ask Pettit (specifically MoonAssad) about supercharging your AT...he might also have some estimated times for you too...
#74
Just wanted to mention, nobody says what tires they were using for their own 0-60 runs. The difference between Potenzas, Azenis, and 710s is going to be very very different of course...
So many thing go into this (Air/pavement/tire temp, elevation, road surface, etc) that to get a truly reliable objective measurement is nigh impossible. There have been days with the right temp and pavement at the AutoX that my grip level went through the roof and the car felt like a whole different proposition, and would easily outgun my car a day later on a different road.
It just matters if you have a better times than the other guy that day...
So many thing go into this (Air/pavement/tire temp, elevation, road surface, etc) that to get a truly reliable objective measurement is nigh impossible. There have been days with the right temp and pavement at the AutoX that my grip level went through the roof and the car felt like a whole different proposition, and would easily outgun my car a day later on a different road.
It just matters if you have a better times than the other guy that day...
#75
Originally Posted by CarAndDriver
You must have an 04...those things are slugs. Sorry tis true. You could get blown away by minivans and econo sedans.
strange, i was not aware that anything changed from 04 to 07 models. i have 04, i've never been blown away buy anything econo or minivans. please explain.