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Old 05-08-2008 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
EXACTLY...

However I plan on doing a dyno AND 1/4 times at least to benchmark it...personal curiosity mainly...I like data...
I plan on installing it myself, I'll see if I can have Protechnik do some dyno pulls as-is before i toss on the kit. I'm not going to be happy either way, and my tranny will probably take a **** in the process.

I figure if we can swap a Z06 motor into an FD, a turbo should be a cakewalk as long as we can get the car high enough.
Old 05-08-2008 | 10:47 PM
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...... a turbo should be a cakewalk as long as we can get the car high enough.

High enough? I do my installs with nothing more than 3-4 jack stands. If you have a lift you'll be golden.
Old 05-08-2008 | 10:47 PM
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Some of us track our cars. Some of us also have a firm grasp on the use of the English language, in written and spoken media...

I'm praying. That 14.37 was the aberration in a day of 8-10 runs...I think it was a pretty consistent 14.5-14.7 [I am not very consistent at launching my car-the 14.5's were with a 4k feather, the 14.3 was a 6.5k DROP with little to no bogging and no hop, at the end of the day when I'd lowered tire pressures from 33 to 28...I felt bad abusing the car and stopped, content, after that]. I've got slips somewhere in my desk in Houston w/ all of the runs along with me having written down what car was in the other lane...

I don't not enjoy drag, I've just gotten used to doing PCA DE's and love having videos to throw up on facebook so my friends can see what this car is actually capable of [SRT-10/RS4/997TT RAPE on track, at least in Yellow where I'm running now]
Buddy of mine showed me a video of him (Black MS6) getting passed by a blue RX-8 (You)...I was all like...yeah thats Micheal...

Later said he was having turbo problems...haa haa

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I figure the used Greddy I just bought should put me on par with a 996 Carrera in a straight line, and that's all I'll ever want. I certainly don't want my temperatures to get too high on track so I'm staying conservative with my 40k-old motor.

Full mod list for twinkie:
2004 RX-8 6MT GT, RB REVi Intake, ACT Prolite Flywheel, Exedy Stage 1 Clutch, Whiteline Swaybar Bushings, Koni Yellow Adjustables, Tein S-Tech Springs, Strakes, Enkei RPF-1 18x9.5, 275/35/18 BF Goodrich KDW's, Blue over Black Leather interior, minus the back seats which no longer exist, Corbeau Harnesses matched to interior [no longer legal at PCA events], Carbing Rear Underbrace, Clear Corners, Hawk HP+, OBDScan-APEX, 8 lb exhaust[OEM all the way to where canister muffler used to be, hacked off, 90* bend and turn down to passenger rear, videos on youtube, OCC, Autopower Roll Cage, Hydroxycut Hardcore as far as rear/trunk interior are concerned.

Uninstalled used greddy kit with EMU waiting for me to pick up Saturday, I might have to source a Greddy oil pan...kit comes VTA w/ Greddy RS, Turbo Timer, and some aftermarket catless midpipe
Hmm...you might want to wait for MM's offering instead...the snail is flow matched to the engine and is a better fit...you can send the used greedy kit to MM and have him retrofit it for you...

I'm about to pull out the HP+ and drop in the ceramics this weekend...same wheels/tires...we might be the same in regards to weight...but you might have me beat my a few pounds haa...

I really need to get out there again...me and Thura havent been able to get back out there...
Old 05-08-2008 | 10:55 PM
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High enough? I do my installs with nothing more than 3-4 jack stands. If you have a lift you'll be golden.
We've got an engine lift and some Jacks/jack stands...but no lift in his garage, yet lol.

We did the RX-7 without a lift though, it's just a pain for me to get to tight areas...test fitting his headers were a bitch! I figure getting to the hotside under the car is going to be the hardest part for me, perusing the PDF of the greddy install. I'm 6'1", barrel chested, and 190 built like a football player.

That and chasing down miscellaneous bits I'll need if it's not a complete kit.
Old 05-08-2008 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwinkie
Buddy of mine showed me a video of him (Black MS6) getting passed by a blue RX-8 (You)...I was all like...yeah thats Micheal...

Later said he was having turbo problems...haa haa



Hmm...you might want to wait for MM's offering instead...the snail is flow matched to the engine and is a better fit...you can send the used greedy kit to MM and have him retrofit it for you...

I'm about to pull out the HP+ and drop in the ceramics this weekend...same wheels/tires...we might be the same in regards to weight...but you might have me beat my a few pounds haa...

I really need to get out there again...me and Thura havent been able to get back out there...
That's funny - I remember seeing him!
I've been running mostly TWSMSC events lately, anywhere from 2:03-2:10 depending on traffic but all recorded on video. Less traffic at those events.

I've warped the same rotor twice, something is definitely wrong with my front right brake...pads are fine...
Old 05-08-2008 | 11:12 PM
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ok sorry for grammer just had surgery today so im hopped up on norco and side effects of anestesia and the cocktail they gave me prior to surgery * not a drink something for nerves n pain) and have a nerve block n left arm so its completley paralized. lol so sorry for my meaningless rant.
Old 05-08-2008 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Saphus
Actually... If you do a search.. the fastest anyone has gone (at least that I've seen) in a straight line NA is low 15s... so 4-8 grand for 2 seconds is really what you're looking at... Not to mention the 8 grand greddy turbo kit gives you everything you need (except tranny upgrades) to run 400 hp... So um... Thats like... Eating up Crazy *** cars... and Quite certainly faster than 13 flat...

Its an investment... but at 400 hp... think what your top speed would be... We can run 160-170mph now... at 230 hp... almost double that... Uh... I'd definately say Its worth the money.
I wouldnt say Hp has so much to do with top speed so much as it does with gearing. With 400hp we would probably crank out 330 tq so we wouldnt double out speed just hit top speed much faster. Greddy turbo for 8 will barely hit 300.

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Old 05-08-2008 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael

I figure the used Greddy I just bought should put me on par with a 996 Carrera in a straight line, and that's all I'll ever want.
Dunno,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocC8TRZ050

Its a 997 but it kind of walked over that turbo RX-8. It looks like the RX-8 got the jump on it but once the 997 hit it's real powerband it pulled away.

Still looking for times...
Old 05-08-2008 | 11:57 PM
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That video was posted on the viper forum some time ago. Posts stated the 997 was not stock.
Old 05-09-2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Falken
Dunno,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocC8TRZ050

Its a 997 but it kind of walked over that turbo RX-8. It looks like the RX-8 got the jump on it but once the 997 hit it's real powerband it pulled away.

Still looking for times...
The 996 C2 is a very different car from the 997C4S. Granted, the C4S is heavy as fawk, but the ***** are bigger.

wassup_nuthin - sorry to have been a dick, I'm studying for a Medicinal Chemistry Final I have in 12 hours. I generally have little patience for incorrect grammar and the like even when I'm not stressed, though.
Old 05-09-2008 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Falken
Dunno,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocC8TRZ050

Its a 997 but it kind of walked over that turbo RX-8. It looks like the RX-8 got the jump on it but once the 997 hit it's real powerband it pulled away.

Still looking for times...


Brother, just by skimming through this thread you should see the times are low to mid 13's....... What more are you looking for.

0-60 I would estimate is 4.8-5.2 seconds. Just by looking at other low 13 second cars.
Old 05-09-2008 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Falken
Dunno,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rocC8TRZ050

Its a 997 but it kind of walked over that turbo RX-8. It looks like the RX-8 got the jump on it but once the 997 hit it's real powerband it pulled away.

Still looking for times...


heh. I hate it when people say "its turbo and it still lost"

That's like saying its na and still lost. WTF does that mean? You can have 80 hp na, or you can have 800 hp na. That specific car makes around 240 whp cause its on the stock greedy setup. He also has a few hundred pounds in body kit and sound added. He would have a tough time pulling away from a chipped na car with exhaust mods.

The fact is, that owner went for bling, then wondered why his 40k in mods only made 20 whp over some na cars.
Old 05-09-2008 | 07:40 AM
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additionally his torque would be around 170-180. I would pull on his car a LOT more than the porche did, and I would have pulled the entire time. There would be no comparison.
Old 05-09-2008 | 08:21 AM
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additionally his torque would be around 170-180. I would pull on his car a LOT more than the porche did, and I would have pulled the entire time. There would be no comparison.
MM turbo FTMFW
Old 05-09-2008 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Renesis07
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Brother, just by skimming through this thread you should see the times are low to mid 13's....... What more are you looking for.

0-60 I would estimate is 4.8-5.2 seconds. Just by looking at other low 13 second cars.
Can anyone verify that? I believe you, but other low second cars have more torque than even a turbo RX-8, so that claim is slightly questionable.

Has any RX-8 that still sports a renesis ever broken the 5 second mark for 0-60? How about the 13 second mark for 1/4th?
Old 05-09-2008 | 08:58 AM
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Has any RX-8 that still sports a renesis ever broken the 5 second mark for 0-60? How about the 13 second mark for 1/4th?
search for adrian-1, he posted 13.1 or 13.2 slip a few years back on the stock greddy kit. Which means 50-80 ft-lb torque less than what some are running, and about as much hp.
Old 05-09-2008 | 10:16 AM
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Old 05-09-2008 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Falken
Can anyone verify that? I believe you, but other low second cars have more torque than even a turbo RX-8, so that claim is slightly questionable.

Has any RX-8 that still sports a renesis ever broken the 5 second mark for 0-60? How about the 13 second mark for 1/4th?

Wouldja believe that with a handful or bolt-ons and a 55 shot that I had no problem with stock Evo8s, STis, Mustangs, Camaro, GTOs, etc?
Old 05-09-2008 | 11:59 AM
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Yes, I would, because the 8 is very light compared to those cars.

I don't know ANYTHING about nitrous's interactions with the rotary engine, I don't want to go there really until I know enough about it. You have a pm
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If you're only looking for straight-line improvements out of a turbo kit you're better off using nitrous.
As much as I HATE to agree with that, I do.

WOT is all that matters in drag racing and a turbo is not the best choice if WOT is all that matters to you.
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I guess it's true then..... you ARE a "hater"!

Old 05-09-2008 | 12:20 PM
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As much as I HATE to agree with that, I do.

WOT is all that matters in drag racing and a turbo is not the best choice if WOT is all that matters to you.
What matters to me right now is times. Mods later after I take HPDE. I am more interested in FI's interactions with a rotary engine than doing it to my car specifically, although I suppose it couldn't hurt
Old 05-09-2008 | 12:21 PM
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Most FI rx8s are using the greddy kit. Unless they up the boost, they only put out 240 whp. Swapping out the turbo, or using other turbo kits and the power levels can reach the 350-380 whp range.
MMs bolt on upgrade FTMFW! this will be the route I am going.
Old 05-09-2008 | 12:25 PM
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I guess it's true then..... you ARE a "hater"!


OK. "Hate" was a bad choice of words.
Old 05-09-2008 | 01:01 PM
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Who is it? What whp does his car put down? If he missed a shift, has he made another pass faster than that?
He is like 25 and spent all his money on that car, couldn't make the payments and then bought the greddy kit with his credit card, couldn't afford that so he sold the whole greddy kit to my other friend (i posted pics of the one with the vertext kit) for 500. but anyway I think he was putting like 280 to the wheels without a tune, pushing 8.5psi


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