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Hello RX8 Club!
I bought my RX-8 last night in St. Petersburg, FL. I drove 300 miles from Fort Lauderdale to pick it up (it was pre-owned). Black/Chapparal interior, Brilliant Black exterior. It was pretty much loaded and was the exact color combination I was looking for. With only 9k miles, it was essentially new to me!
I am very excited about this car. I used to have a '95 Z-28 six-speed, so the lack of torque was a bit disconcerting in this new car. But, it revs so much more freely and feels infinitely more balanced (although that Z-28 was a beast). I do plan on getting a Racing Beat exhaust and Rotary Extreme's intake to beef up the midrange a bit. Can someone please tell me the diff between CanZoomer ECU upgrade stage 1 and 2? That's probably all the modifying I will do in the interest of streetability and sound.
Anyways, I just wanted to say hello to my new peers and ask a question...
Can I have a Mazda dealer retrofit a Navi system to my car?
Thanks!
I am very excited about this car. I used to have a '95 Z-28 six-speed, so the lack of torque was a bit disconcerting in this new car. But, it revs so much more freely and feels infinitely more balanced (although that Z-28 was a beast). I do plan on getting a Racing Beat exhaust and Rotary Extreme's intake to beef up the midrange a bit. Can someone please tell me the diff between CanZoomer ECU upgrade stage 1 and 2? That's probably all the modifying I will do in the interest of streetability and sound.
Anyways, I just wanted to say hello to my new peers and ask a question...
Can I have a Mazda dealer retrofit a Navi system to my car?
Thanks!
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congratulations on your new ride and welcome. Cant help you much with upgrades as I haven't investigated them much, yet. There is alot of good info here and some not so good. Using search can be very helpful.
All you can do is ask the dealer about NAV. I did when I was shopping. I didnt come away feeling it was doable by the dealer.
Once again, welcome!
All you can do is ask the dealer about NAV. I did when I was shopping. I didnt come away feeling it was doable by the dealer.
Once again, welcome!
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Originally Posted by trophymaker
...the lack of torque was a bit disconcerting in this new car.
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Old Rotor: I got this thing for $24500! 9K miles! They are all over eBay. Although I would love to have bought a new one, this helped me get in very easily, saving me a hefty amount of money a month (I was $4000 upside down on my Volvo S80).
I waited for a few months to find a black on black/chapparal. Well worth it!
I waited for a few months to find a black on black/chapparal. Well worth it!
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trophymaker,
I saw that car on eBay...I think, did they have another one on the lot? Gray? I was very interested in 3 of them in FL but I'm just not ready to buy yet.
Sorry, I don't know about the CanZOomer stuff...I would like more information on that also.
I saw that car on eBay...I think, did they have another one on the lot? Gray? I was very interested in 3 of them in FL but I'm just not ready to buy yet.
Sorry, I don't know about the CanZOomer stuff...I would like more information on that also.
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Originally Posted by rx8wannahave
trophymaker,
I saw that car on eBay...I think, did they have another one on the lot? Gray? I was very interested in 3 of them in FL but I'm just not ready to buy yet.
Sorry, I don't know about the CanZOomer stuff...I would like more information on that also.
I saw that car on eBay...I think, did they have another one on the lot? Gray? I was very interested in 3 of them in FL but I'm just not ready to buy yet.
Sorry, I don't know about the CanZOomer stuff...I would like more information on that also.
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Welcome to the RX-8 Club!
Before someone flames you (ie: "do a search"), here are the answers to your ??'s
Adding a NAV system to your vehicle will cost more in the long run (if you can find someone to do it) than to have purchased it with the car when you bought it. If I remeber correctly, it's not just a matter of slapping in a screen, drive and antenna. The wiring isn't there to support the NAVI system (if I remember correctly).
As far as the difference in Stages... please remember that these were taken from a post made on 11-18-2003, and the prices and information may have changed.
"Stage 1: Cost: $500
Intended mainly for street use.
It is configured for the RX-8 owner who uses the car as a "Daily Driver" and who simply wishes to have an optimum tune for getting the performance as originally spec'ed for the 8.
Measured as a 20-25HP gain (rear wheel) over the stock tune as delivered.
Provides a 14.6 mixture at partial throttle steady running, and a 13.2 mixture at wide open throttle.
Best improvements are at higher rpm ranges above 6,000rpm where it achieves peak horsepower at 8,500rpm.
In midrange use, between 3,750 and 6,000rpm we see a smaller,but noticeable improvement, adding approximately 7-10hp at 4,500rpm. This is ideal for highway situations where you want to pass, but are not comfortable downshifting 2 gears simply to have enough "push" to pass.
Fuel economy improvements occur in use where the driver is aggressively using throttle and rpm.
Smaller economy improvements will occur at lighter, lower rpm use, but these are less significant.
Installation should take about 1 - 2 hours initially.
After installation one can remove the device and visible signs of installation in about 15 minutes. Re-installation also will take about 15 minutes.
As we provide a full interface wiring harness adpator, ther eis no need to cut, permamenently alter or modify any components, wiring, or the ECU.
When disengaged the ECU and car are still running perfectly stock and original.
CanZoomer Stage 2 performance kit:
Cost: $750
Availability: Late December
Use: Of road, track applications, not emissions legal for street
Requires: removal of stock catalytic converter.
Performance: Expected 45 to 55hp gain at rear wheels.
Installation: 2 hours. similar to Stage 1 kit installation, PLUS:
Removal and replacement of exhaust mid-pipe,
wiring components.
Addition of O2 sensor "fooler" module.
Addition of spark plug & coil pack cooler heatsinks.
More info to follow
This is a placeholder message.
I will be filling in the details shortly."
Check out the "vendors' forum" for more info.
Before someone flames you (ie: "do a search"), here are the answers to your ??'s
Adding a NAV system to your vehicle will cost more in the long run (if you can find someone to do it) than to have purchased it with the car when you bought it. If I remeber correctly, it's not just a matter of slapping in a screen, drive and antenna. The wiring isn't there to support the NAVI system (if I remember correctly).
As far as the difference in Stages... please remember that these were taken from a post made on 11-18-2003, and the prices and information may have changed.
"Stage 1: Cost: $500
Intended mainly for street use.
It is configured for the RX-8 owner who uses the car as a "Daily Driver" and who simply wishes to have an optimum tune for getting the performance as originally spec'ed for the 8.
Measured as a 20-25HP gain (rear wheel) over the stock tune as delivered.
Provides a 14.6 mixture at partial throttle steady running, and a 13.2 mixture at wide open throttle.
Best improvements are at higher rpm ranges above 6,000rpm where it achieves peak horsepower at 8,500rpm.
In midrange use, between 3,750 and 6,000rpm we see a smaller,but noticeable improvement, adding approximately 7-10hp at 4,500rpm. This is ideal for highway situations where you want to pass, but are not comfortable downshifting 2 gears simply to have enough "push" to pass.
Fuel economy improvements occur in use where the driver is aggressively using throttle and rpm.
Smaller economy improvements will occur at lighter, lower rpm use, but these are less significant.
Installation should take about 1 - 2 hours initially.
After installation one can remove the device and visible signs of installation in about 15 minutes. Re-installation also will take about 15 minutes.
As we provide a full interface wiring harness adpator, ther eis no need to cut, permamenently alter or modify any components, wiring, or the ECU.
When disengaged the ECU and car are still running perfectly stock and original.
CanZoomer Stage 2 performance kit:
Cost: $750
Availability: Late December
Use: Of road, track applications, not emissions legal for street
Requires: removal of stock catalytic converter.
Performance: Expected 45 to 55hp gain at rear wheels.
Installation: 2 hours. similar to Stage 1 kit installation, PLUS:
Removal and replacement of exhaust mid-pipe,
wiring components.
Addition of O2 sensor "fooler" module.
Addition of spark plug & coil pack cooler heatsinks.
More info to follow
This is a placeholder message.
I will be filling in the details shortly."
Check out the "vendors' forum" for more info.
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Thanks thanks thanks... Actually I did search for CanZoomer stage 1 and 2 and there are references to it in almost every damn thread on here!!! :-)
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Bowman, that PDF is quite an interesting read... now a new question arises... how can I tell if my 8 will be one of the 2/3rd that respond well to CanZoomer's ECU upgrade. Is the only real way to get that canscan thing?
Hmmm maybe I should just stick to RE intake and RB exhaust?
Hmmm maybe I should just stick to RE intake and RB exhaust?
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