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Old 02-14-2005, 09:13 PM
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Angry Hit a pole while low riding.

I can't lowride in the 8. My friend hit a pole driving his car because he couldn't see over the wheel and lost control. I have to sit up straight. Everyone makes fun of me, but I'd rather have control than look cool. I sit pretty close to the wheel with the bottom all the way up and back almost straight up. I also have the steering wheel tilted all the way up. I sometimes sit low, but I always make sure I can see over the wheel. I don't understand how peole can drive around all day with their heads visible out the back window. How do you guys position your seats?
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Should serve notice to his friends how stupid they look and how dangerous it is. Nothing like putting innocent people at risk so you think your looking cool to your friends. Glad you don't follow.
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Yeah, I sit way jacked up in my seat (I'm 5'4 and my hair brushes the headliner). If for no other reason, you can have a whole lot more fun driving through twisties if you're in a proper seating position. Need to be able to see where the car's pointed in order to have fun.
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That is one of my pet peeves with young drivers, improper seating position. They look like total schmucks. I often imitate it if I am at stoplight next to someone like this. Makes many people laugh, except of course the driver, but often the drivers passengers if they are girls.

I'm too lazy to write about proper seating, so I googled images and found this, looks about right


Oh yeah, tell your freind he is a dumbass for me.

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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
That is one of my pet peeves with young drivers, improper seating position. They look like total schmucks. I often imitate it if I am at stoplight next to someone like this. Makes many people laugh, except of course the driver, but often the drivers passengers if they are girls.

I'm too lazy to write about proper seating, so I googled images and found this, looks about right


Oh yeah, tell your freind he is a dumbass for me.
Is it because of the fast and the furious? I went to watch some people who street race and they do it to. They sit so far back that their arm is really straight.
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That crap annoys the hell out of me... I know guys driving around like that can't see anything except the sky. I might look like a dork, but I keep my seat at about 5 degrees off of vertical... I learned proper seating and wheel positions from performance driving instruction and it works well on the street.
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I bet a lot of it is because of the F&F movies. You cannot control a car well with your arms locked. There are a couple videos on this site which show the driver in the 8, you can probably get a good idea of proper 8 seating position from them.

Click on the raceway
Then on the guy standing on the bridge
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CONCERT pianists don't sit sideways with one arm over the back of a chair. Golfers don't just stroll up to the ball and swing away. Both go to great lengths to position their body in relation to the task in the knowledge it will make a great deal of difference to the outcome.

Motorists should do the same. Proper positioning at the wheel determines how quickly you can take evasive action and how well.
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Whats low-riding?
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It's an informal competition among young drivers to see who can sit the farthest back and most horizontal while not crashing their car...bonus points seem to be awarded for leaning into the passenger seat as well. :p
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I heard that is a fad that was started by the gang bangers. When you sit so far back and so low others can't see who is driving the car and also for protection from drive by shootings.
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This is low riding

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Can I change my answer? :D
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
Everyone makes fun of me, but I'd rather have control than look cool.
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Not you, but the concept that lying back in the seat with no visibility and no control is somehow cool. Who are these morons that you call friends? You really need some new ones. Try going to a local autocross, and watch the seating positions used by drivers who actually have a clue. Then make friends with them, and then you and your new, actually cool friends, can make fun of your former friends when they're doing stupid, dimwitted nonsense like lowriding, and laugh at how those half-brained twits think they're cool.

Oh, and do your former friends a favour - tell them they're apparently idiots who have no idea what cool really means. :D

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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
That has got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Not you, but the concept that lying back in the seat with no visibility and no control is somehow cool. Who are these morons that you call friends? You really need some new ones. Try going to a local autocross, and watch the seating positions used by drivers who actually have a clue. Then make friends with them, and then you and your new, actually cool friends, can make fun of your former friends when they're doing stupid, dimwitted nonsense like lowriding, and laugh at how those half-brained twits think they're cool.

Oh, and do your former friends a favour - tell them they're apparently idiots who have no idea what cool really means. :D

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Is it bad to sit straight up. I feel like I am in a box. I position my self 10 inches from the wheel sitting straight up. I am 5'3" but it still feels like a box. I can control the car like no other though. I think that part of the reason I had my accident. Is it better to sit straight up and fairly close. It just feels weird.
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Let me see if I can get all the steps to setting up your seat correctly...It's a bit late, but we'll see how this goes...

-First, use your left foot to judge your clutch. Your leg should extend naturally without reaching or stomping.
-Next, adjust the seat vertically - you want about 3-4 "fingers" above your head (stand your hand on its side, also make sure the vertical motion hasn't changed your orientation with the clutch).
-After you've got the vertical and horzontal components, set the seatback to a comfortable level and then adjust the steering wheel so it more or less squarely faces you...if you extend your arm to the top of the wheel, your wrist should just reach the center top of the wheel and be able to bend over it a bit.

As you drive, when you're not shifting, put your foot on the dead pedal over to the left. It'll hold you in the seat while cornering and it'll keep your foot from meddling with the cluch when it doesn't need to be meddled with. Steering wheel should be held at the 9 and 3 spokes.
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
Is it bad to sit straight up. I feel like I am in a box. I position my self 10 inches from the wheel sitting straight up. I am 5'3" but it still feels like a box. I can control the car like no other though. I think that part of the reason I had my accident. Is it better to sit straight up and fairly close. It just feels weird.
Well, probably best to seat yourself so your legs are slightly bent still when your the pedals are fully depressed. Your arms are not fully extended so you have room to manuver during turns. You don't have to position yourself perfectly straight. Don't know if this makes sense or not.
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Originally Posted by NomisR
Well, probably best to seat yourself so your legs are slightly bent still when your the pedals are fully depressed. Your arms are not fully extended so you have room to manuver during turns. You don't have to position yourself perfectly straight. Don't know if this makes sense or not.

It does. You don't have to be perfectly straight, but can you be? I don't mind being bent. I looked at that video, but I couldn't get anything from it because he is a lot bigger than me therfore he sits back farther.
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Originally Posted by Rhawb
Let me see if I can get all the steps to setting up your seat correctly...It's a bit late, but we'll see how this goes...

-First, use your left foot to judge your clutch. Your leg should extend naturally without reaching or stomping.
-Next, adjust the seat vertically - you want about 3-4 "fingers" above your head (stand your hand on its side, also make sure the vertical motion hasn't changed your orientation with the clutch).
-After you've got the vertical and horzontal components, set the seatback to a comfortable level and then adjust the steering wheel so it more or less squarely faces you...if you extend your arm to the top of the wheel, your wrist should just reach the center top of the wheel and be able to bend over it a bit.

As you drive, when you're not shifting, put your foot on the dead pedal over to the left. It'll hold you in the seat while cornering and it'll keep your foot from meddling with the cluch when it doesn't need to be meddled with. Steering wheel should be held at the 9 and 3 spokes.
good points and i am guilty of riding the clutch somewhat. i rarely use the dead pedal. i'm lazy with that left foot and leave it on the clutch pedal. :D
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Well, probably best to seat yourself so your legs are slightly bent still when your the pedals are fully depressed. Your arms are not fully extended so you have room to manuver during turns. You don't have to position yourself perfectly straight. Don't know if this makes sense or not.
i read somewhere where it said your arms should extend fairly straight to deteremine distance from wheel for air bag deployment safety. of course that's another thing entirely. :D
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
It does. You don't have to be perfectly straight, but can you be? I don't mind being bent. I looked at that video, but I couldn't get anything from it because he is a lot bigger than me therfore he sits back farther.
Seating position is actually relatively independant of height (remember, I'm only 5'4). Sure, you're going to be closer, but you want to look like that guy when you drive. Relaxed arms and everything comfortably within reach (including pedals) should give you solid command over the car. You don't have to sit like you have a 2x4 jammed in your cornhole, the seat can be reclined some, but if that's what's comfortable to you, go for it. If you put your seat up all the way, you can actually still recline your seat quite a bit while still being within the "4 finger rule" (that rule isn't concrete either, it's just to give you a ballpark of about how close you should be).

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i read somewhere where it said your arms should extend fairly straight to deteremine distance from wheel for air bag deployment safety. of course that's another thing entirely. :D
Who needs airbags when you can avoid the accident all together! :p
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Who needs airbags when you can avoid the accident all together! :p
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Bingo!

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Originally Posted by BlueEyes
This is low riding

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Thats hot... :D

I never thought much about how I sit in the car... so long as I am comfortable...

I have noticed though that the sides are much higher than on most cars, or at least the MINI.
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
Is it because of the fast and the furious? I went to watch some people who street race and they do it to. They sit so far back that their arm is really straight.
it originated in my opinion with 'gangbangers' carrying their guns in their front waistband and therefore had to sit all leaned back to extract the weapon when 'necessary'. Which of course made it into hollywood productions and then to the general public.


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