dude, you should hear me when I get going...hardly anyone laughs at my stupid jokes, then I say "okay. well, I thought it was funny. :D " or "ALLLLLrighty then!"

I can imagine hearing you say it...:D

 

I usually say, "I guess you had to be there." :D

 

I wouldn't say MUCH smaller.

RX8: GSR Celica GTS SVT WRX

Height 52.8 in. 52.6 in. 51.4 in. 56.3 in. 56.7 in.
Width: 69.7 in. 67.3 in. 68.3 in. 66.9 in. 68.1 in.
Lth.: 174.3 in. 172.4 in 170.5 in. 168.1 in. 173.4 in.
WB: 106.4 in. 101.2 in. 102.4 in. 103.0 in. 99.4 in.
Rear 53.3 in. 48.8 in. 50.6 in. 53.5 in. 52.9 in.
Shoulder
Room
Rear Leg 32.3 in. 28.1 in. 27.0 in. 37.6 in. 33.0 in.
Room
Rear Head 36.2 in. 35.0 in. 35.0 in. 38.1 in. 36.7 in.
Room

For me, my only use for rear seats, is to store a few things every now and then, and perhaps to take my family's dog somewhere occasionally (with seat covers!) when i go home to visit. I don't care about rear passenger comfort, if they want to ride back there, then they better not complain is my attitude! Besides, a small back seat allows me to only date smaller, more flexible women :p j/k.

Still, I can probobly live with the approximate 3,000 lb RX8 provided its near tops in its class in handling. So far the preliminary reviews seem to indicate this, but we'll see soon hopefully.

 

There are *NO* other cars in this class!

 

I drive a 2000 Celica GTS now, and I sat in RSX in car show not long ago. GTS inside is a little smaller than RSX, especially the +2 seat. But 2500 lbs GTS is amazing light for a FF coupe. Cannot tell how small the GTS compare to RX-8 until a test drive. But I would bet it is closer to RSX.

 

I dunno.. I test drove the Celica, put the front seat where I needed it to be and the seatback was almost touching the rear seat. Very cramped compared to the RX-8.

 

Here is a recent test drive of the Rx-8 by motortrend...

it says the curb weight is 2933

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedan/112_0301_rx8/

 

Let's hope they are right about the weight. :D

 

"Ford Focus SVT: FWD, 2.0 liter 170 HP, 145 lb.-ft. torque, 2,593 lbs."

Every published figure I have seen for the SVT Focus puts it at between 2700 and 2800 lbs. Where'd you get this number?

 

as mentioned in the thread abotu the AutoBild article, which i'm pretty sure is far more recent that this one is (they talked about driving the Corkscrew at Laguna Seca), they quoted the mass at 1330kg, which is 2930lb.-and-change... so, maybe it's true?? ??

 

I got it from Edmunds for the 2 door hatchback, I think the four door version was in the range you suggest. Then again, Edmunds could have the wrong figures.