The "horsepower problem"
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Does the BMW Z4 have a horsepower problem? Instinct would tell you "No" but let us look closer:
2004 BMW Z4 2.5L 184HP @ ~2,950 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs about the same.
But what about the more POWERFUL (snicker snicker) Z4 version:
2004 BMW Z4 3.0L 225HP @ ~3,030 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs more..not good for them..not good at all.
2004 RX-8 238HP and weighs around 2,925 lbs (ZeroBanger and E3/M3/P3 or something like that)
If people have issues with HP on the 8, then they would on a $40K+ BMW Z4. Plus the 8 holds four people versus 2 for the Z4.
Chew on that some.
2004 BMW Z4 2.5L 184HP @ ~2,950 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs about the same.
But what about the more POWERFUL (snicker snicker) Z4 version:
2004 BMW Z4 3.0L 225HP @ ~3,030 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs more..not good for them..not good at all.
2004 RX-8 238HP and weighs around 2,925 lbs (ZeroBanger and E3/M3/P3 or something like that)
If people have issues with HP on the 8, then they would on a $40K+ BMW Z4. Plus the 8 holds four people versus 2 for the Z4.
Chew on that some.
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[QUOTE=IkeWRX]
Nahhhhhhh! Don't worry!
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if I visit this year and pull up in a riced out 626 no making fun, my nephew has some issues when it comes to this car stuff :p
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
Does the BMW Z4 have a horsepower problem? Instinct would tell you "No" but let us look closer:
2004 BMW Z4 2.5L 184HP @ ~2,950 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs about the same.
But what about the more POWERFUL (snicker snicker) Z4 version:
2004 BMW Z4 3.0L 225HP @ ~3,030 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs more..not good for them..not good at all.
2004 RX-8 238HP and weighs around 2,925 lbs (ZeroBanger and E3/M3/P3 or something like that)
If people have issues with HP on the 8, then they would on a $40K+ BMW Z4. Plus the 8 holds four people versus 2 for the Z4.
Chew on that some.
2004 BMW Z4 2.5L 184HP @ ~2,950 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs about the same.
But what about the more POWERFUL (snicker snicker) Z4 version:
2004 BMW Z4 3.0L 225HP @ ~3,030 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs more..not good for them..not good at all.
2004 RX-8 238HP and weighs around 2,925 lbs (ZeroBanger and E3/M3/P3 or something like that)
If people have issues with HP on the 8, then they would on a $40K+ BMW Z4. Plus the 8 holds four people versus 2 for the Z4.
Chew on that some.
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Good to see you back in top form Ike.
No "problem" with HP, you can always tune (aftermarket) most of the lost/missing HP back to 238 with ECU piggybacks and the like.
Personally, I don't give a crap, I love my car, I love driving it.
Will I get FI or other aftermarket upgrades after the warranty expires? Probably.
If Mazdaspeed comes out with a warranty supported Turbo, SC or upgraded ECU, you can bet I'll be in line the second I talk my wife into the purchase .
No "problem" with HP, you can always tune (aftermarket) most of the lost/missing HP back to 238 with ECU piggybacks and the like.
Personally, I don't give a crap, I love my car, I love driving it.
Will I get FI or other aftermarket upgrades after the warranty expires? Probably.
If Mazdaspeed comes out with a warranty supported Turbo, SC or upgraded ECU, you can bet I'll be in line the second I talk my wife into the purchase .
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Originally Posted by Jaguar_MBA
Does the BMW Z4 have a horsepower problem? Instinct would tell you "No" but let us look closer:
2004 BMW Z4 2.5L 184HP @ ~2,950 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs about the same.
But what about the more POWERFUL (snicker snicker) Z4 version:
2004 BMW Z4 3.0L 225HP @ ~3,030 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs more..not good for them..not good at all.
2004 RX-8 238HP and weighs around 2,925 lbs (ZeroBanger and E3/M3/P3 or something like that)
If people have issues with HP on the 8, then they would on a $40K+ BMW Z4. Plus the 8 holds four people versus 2 for the Z4.
Chew on that some.
2004 BMW Z4 2.5L 184HP @ ~2,950 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs about the same.
But what about the more POWERFUL (snicker snicker) Z4 version:
2004 BMW Z4 3.0L 225HP @ ~3,030 Lbs......Hmm car has less horse power and weighs more..not good for them..not good at all.
2004 RX-8 238HP and weighs around 2,925 lbs (ZeroBanger and E3/M3/P3 or something like that)
If people have issues with HP on the 8, then they would on a $40K+ BMW Z4. Plus the 8 holds four people versus 2 for the Z4.
Chew on that some.
Originally Posted by Lufa
Personally, I don't give a crap, I love my car, I love driving it.
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Well, if 238 bhp is the worst problem, then the rest is pretty good, isn't it?
The RX-8 outhandles pretty much everything that doesn't cost twice as much and has a power band second to none. Whoever seriously complains about performance of this car is driving the wrong roads.
The RX-8 outhandles pretty much everything that doesn't cost twice as much and has a power band second to none. Whoever seriously complains about performance of this car is driving the wrong roads.
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Actually, it's not the number 238 but the actually straight line acceleration. In a class where average 1/4 mile time is a 14.0 @ ~100 mph, the RX8 is well behind with an average 14.8-15.3 @ ~93. Add to this the low torque and around town you can feel pretty underpowered. For some this is not a problem...for others it is.
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