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Old 04-23-2005 | 08:18 PM
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How fast would this 325 pound ft rx8 be?????

In the new "Top tuners" magazine by modified mag. I saw it at a drugstore today. The rx-8 was by RE-Amemiya and had a turbo. It made i think around 265whp and 325 pd ft of torque. I guess 0-60 in the 4's and 1/4 mile in the 12's. hope a kit comes out soon
Old 04-23-2005 | 08:25 PM
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if anybody has the magazine they can confirm this.
Old 04-23-2005 | 08:31 PM
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Doesn't make sense that a forced induction rotary engine would make more torque than horsepower.
That would mean that it's not revving above 5200 RPM which doesn't make any sense.
I believe it's an auto
Old 04-23-2005 | 09:22 PM
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Doesn't make sense that a forced induction rotary engine would make more torque than horsepower.
That would mean that it's not revving above 5200 RPM which doesn't make any sense.
That's not quite true. You can't make more torque than horsepower above 5252 rpm but you can most certainly have a higher peak torque number than a higher peak horsepower number. This is because of where each peak occurs. Even if these numbers are correct, the engine will make tons of low end torque and the torque peak of 325 is well below 5252 rpm but the power falls off up top and the peak power of 265 is above 5252 rpm. If you could see it on a dyno chart, the torque curve would be a big hump low in the powerband but rapidly fall off about mid way up. If these numbers are correct, it just means they are running boost that falls off heavily on the top end, or they are trying to run decently high boost from a very small turbo.
Old 04-23-2005 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by njcs
In the new "Top tuners" magazine by modified mag. I saw it at a drugstore today. The rx-8 was by RE-Amemiya and had a turbo. It made i think around 265whp and 325 pd ft of torque. I guess 0-60 in the 4's and 1/4 mile in the 12's. hope a kit comes out soon
No way a 265whp RX-8 is in the 12s, probably more like low to mid 13s, maybe slower if it's an auto.
Old 04-24-2005 | 12:05 AM
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I'm pretty sure its just a mis-print. Yes you can make more torque than hp, my beater does just that. But I'm pretty sure the RE-Amemiya car is being powered by the GReddy/Trust turbo, so I don't think the numbers are correct. I'd be more inclined to believe the fact that the numbers are reversed, than them trying to make the car run that much more torque than hp.
Old 04-24-2005 | 12:06 AM
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The auto 8 has the 4 port engine which is more boost friendly than the 6 spd 6 port.

Rotary God can verify.
Old 04-24-2005 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan13b
I know the formulas for torque and horsepower, and you're correct in what you said.

My point is that there's not a 13b engine that I've ever seen in my life that doesn't have to rev to make power. If these guys have found a way to get 325lb/ft then they've got a great system for a sequential turbo type system to make that top end power.

That said, I just don't think it's accurate. Tuners want to publish big numbers, so they run big turbos that don't move any air until they rev into the stratosphere.
I don't think the torque numbers are correct either. That would be a crazy small turbo running alot of boost down low and then falling flat on it's face very early. That's the only way I can see it happening.
Old 04-24-2005 | 03:01 AM
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The auto 8 has the 4 port engine which is more boost friendly than the 6 spd 6 port.

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I don't necessarily think either one is more boost friendly than the other. They could both get some nice power numbers from forced induction but in the overall race for the absolute highest power, the 6 port should win.
Old 04-24-2005 | 03:57 AM
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I saw the magazine. Must be a typo.
Old 04-24-2005 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan13b
Exactly, who wants to tune a race car for making power down low, but nothing up top.

If that was the way to go the Diesel VW Jetta TDI would be a very popular race car
I guess you never drove a 911 turbo. redline is 6000rpm and its a beast. Can you say low 12z high 11z.....
Old 04-24-2005 | 06:01 PM
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modified mag first had this car featured in their dec. 2004 issue...in that one as well tehy say it makes256whp / 325 ft-ld of torgue.

trust TD turbocharger, Airinx air filter. Re-Amemiya exhaust manifold, three layer aluminum radiator, oil cooler, Dolphin Tail muffler, Greddy intercooler.

engine management is done by RE Amemiya Redommini; Trust e-Manage

then it had upgraded trust brakes and re amemiya suspension.
Old 04-24-2005 | 11:33 PM
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No way the magazine made a typo twice. So it truly does make 325 pd ft of torque
Old 04-25-2005 | 01:21 PM
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Its an auto it is between 14.5 PSI and 17 PSI
but they said it had a stronger clutch put in ??????
the kit is for a 4 speed and the car defiantly is an auto
Old 04-25-2005 | 06:54 PM
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it was an ogura clutch that re amemiya sells. and they said the air charge was 14.5 - 17psi...since normal air is 14.5 psi (1 atmosphere, or 1 BAR, or roughly 100Kpa), it isn't like they were runnign crazy boost levels (althoug i find it hard to believe they are making that kinda power off of about 5 psi over stock...air charge on a normal 13b-msp 6 port is about 12.5 or so psi i believe)...at least that's what i am thinking...but since i'm not in Japan to see the car who knows...and i've only seen that one article on it. so no other sources to verify it. sorry
Old 04-25-2005 | 11:47 PM
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um 14.5 17ish is hella lot of boost. well a lot for a n/a car:D but i too have never seen boost levels add in atmosphreic pressure. but who knows....maybe if i get curious enough i'll e-mal the mag to ask them what the deal is. besides it was an auto so doesn't the torque converter do some crazy thins? i'm not so sure since i own a mt:D

anyone have thoughts on this?.......the mag obviously has issues:p maybe they put a 1 infront of the boost numbrs...4.5-7 sounds more accurate:D. too bad no one in japan can go over and check it out in person
Old 04-26-2005 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by njcs
No way the magazine made a typo twice. So it truly does make 325 pd ft of torque
Not a duplicate typo, but a reprint.

I saw the original article and the current article, if my memory serves, it looked to be the same article. The current mag was kind of summary round up highlighting some of the past years hottest rides.

Also, I know the car featured is not the most current version, as the hood was still stock. This same RE Amemiya yellow RX-8 now sports a vented carbon fiber hood and was just featured in the most recent May 2005 JDM Option Magazine along with the Trust/Greddy Turbo RX-8. The Japanese mag states the Trust Turbo adds about 50-70 ps for the 6-spd MT (Trust/Greddy car) and around 50 for the AT (RE Amemiya car.)

Their dyno chart for the MT showed an output of about 210 ps at the wheels for the stock 6-spd and 268 ps for the Turbo. So they estimate > 300+ hp at the crank.

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Old 04-26-2005 | 09:53 AM
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^cool....maybe i shoudl pic that mag up:D

thanks for the clearification on the articles.
Old 04-26-2005 | 10:02 AM
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We've been hearing about this kit for the auto for a while now--when is it expected to be released stateside?
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