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How many of you drive with the DSC/TCS off?

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Old 04-07-2006 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
YOu can't say that turning dsc off is the reason for accidents when you have no Idea what skill level the driver posesses. The car doesn't drive itself and driving without dsc is far safer then you make it out to be. I think the bigger problem is inexperienced drivers that get use to the training wheel system and then turns it off. The only thing dsc does well is keeping the vehicle straight when driving in the snow/slippery surfaces. Otherwise, it's totally useless IMO.
True, DSC was designed to cover for driver error and you have been around long enough to know of threads that say, " I read on the NET that turning off DSC saves gas, and I took a turn too fast and crashed my Silver 8 ". Those types of accident were caused by driver error that could have been prevented with DSC on. My post was mostly geared at DSC systems in general, not just on the RX-8. In the real world which would be easier to accomplish getting people to admit they are not as good a driver as they think they are and take courses, or having the government mandate the installation of DSC? With the below data from the link in my post what do you think will happen?

The NHTSA study found a 35 percent reduction in single-vehicle crash risk for cars and a 67 percent reduction for SUVs. Fatal single-vehicle crashes were reduced about 30 percent (cars) and 63 percent (SUVs).
Together these studies indicate that widespread application of ESC could save more than 7,000 lives per year. If all vehicles on U.S. roads had ESC, it might prevent as many as 800,000 of the 2 million or so single-vehicle crashes that occur each year.

You are right, human error & inexperience is the real cause but it’s easier to engineer cars to be safer than to get people to be better drivers.
Old 04-07-2006 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Animagix
i get 3-5 more miles to the tank with DSC off.
Not out of the realms of possibility, I suppose.

Best economy I can recall ever getting is 316 miles out of a tank (DSC on)......321 miles is possible .
Old 04-07-2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Krankor
I have wrapped my 8 around a Pole a number of times.

Her name is Agnieszka.
Wrapped? They have drugs for that now
Old 04-07-2006 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by expo1
True, DSC was designed to cover for driver error and you have been around long enough to know of threads that say, " I read on the NET that turning off DSC saves gas, and I took a turn too fast and crashed my Silver 8 ". Those types of accident were caused by driver error that could have been prevented with DSC on. My post was mostly geared at DSC systems in general, not just on the RX-8. In the real world which would be easier to accomplish getting people to admit they are not as good a driver as they think they are and take courses, or having the government mandate the installation of DSC? With the below data from the link in my post what do you think will happen?

The NHTSA study found a 35 percent reduction in single-vehicle crash risk for cars and a 67 percent reduction for SUVs. Fatal single-vehicle crashes were reduced about 30 percent (cars) and 63 percent (SUVs).
Together these studies indicate that widespread application of ESC could save more than 7,000 lives per year. If all vehicles on U.S. roads had ESC, it might prevent as many as 800,000 of the 2 million or so single-vehicle crashes that occur each year.

You are right, human error & inexperience is the real cause but it’s easier to engineer cars to be safer than to get people to be better drivers.
Fair enough, I agree with everything said here. Sorry for the misunderstanding but I hate it when ppl blame accidents on the lack of dsc. Of course it's a great safety feature but let's realise why dsc was added to begin with.
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