How is this not a lie?
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were you able to jump through all the hoops and actually report it?
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Originally Posted by Asmoran
Jesus, Ebay makes it nearly impossible to report an item that has been misrepresented.
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Originally Posted by Asmoran
Jesus, Ebay makes it nearly impossible to report an item that has been misrepresented.
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This is in my backyard (Nor Cal) so it frosts me!
Here's what I got when just did a live chat at ebay motors:
Keith M.: Hello! Welcome to eBay Motors live chat, my name is Keith. How may I be of assistance?
orangekool: This vehicle isn't the model (Shinka) as advertised and the VIN is not legit. It should be pulled.
Keith M.: I have reported this item to be looked into by our Trust & Safety team, for the safety of the site. If you like, I can tell you another way to report these, for future reference.
orangekool: Several memebers of the mazdaclub forum have sent questions to the seller that are not showing up on the listing page. Yes please let me know.
Keith M.: To report a possible fraudulent listing, you would need to click on the Help button at top of page, then beneath Help on the left hand side of the page click "Contact Us", then select the option "Problems with Other Members", then select the option "Fraud concerns for buyers", then "Report a listing you think is fraudulent(you didn't bid)" or go directly to this link and click Email: http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_u...e=Continue+%3E
Keith M.: As for questions being posted on the listing page, that is a choice of the seller.
Keep it real gang!
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Here's what I got when just did a live chat at ebay motors:
![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Keith M.: Hello! Welcome to eBay Motors live chat, my name is Keith. How may I be of assistance?
orangekool: This vehicle isn't the model (Shinka) as advertised and the VIN is not legit. It should be pulled.
Keith M.: I have reported this item to be looked into by our Trust & Safety team, for the safety of the site. If you like, I can tell you another way to report these, for future reference.
orangekool: Several memebers of the mazdaclub forum have sent questions to the seller that are not showing up on the listing page. Yes please let me know.
Keith M.: To report a possible fraudulent listing, you would need to click on the Help button at top of page, then beneath Help on the left hand side of the page click "Contact Us", then select the option "Problems with Other Members", then select the option "Fraud concerns for buyers", then "Report a listing you think is fraudulent(you didn't bid)" or go directly to this link and click Email: http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_u...e=Continue+%3E
Keith M.: As for questions being posted on the listing page, that is a choice of the seller.
Keep it real gang!
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Actually, I'm as confused as I am angered by an apparent fraudulent listing.
The pictures show a car in apparently good shape. This car is remarkably hard to steal and we've heard zero reports of any stolen in the US.
Why would the guy bother with a fake VIN and title? To mask a theft? Seems unlikely. To cover-up prior wrecks/damage? Possible, but his price will be low with a salvage title anyway, why not just use the real title?
Last fall I bid on an RX-8 on e-bay and won it for about $17,000. The reserve price from the dealer listing the car was $27,000 and he wanted to split the difference. Didn't seem like a good deal for a car in AZ ($1,000 shipping on a used car sight-unseen). I watched a few other auctions and many of them didn't meet their reserves either - e-bay doesn't seem to be the place to get big-money for a regular car.
The pictures show a car in apparently good shape. This car is remarkably hard to steal and we've heard zero reports of any stolen in the US.
Why would the guy bother with a fake VIN and title? To mask a theft? Seems unlikely. To cover-up prior wrecks/damage? Possible, but his price will be low with a salvage title anyway, why not just use the real title?
Last fall I bid on an RX-8 on e-bay and won it for about $17,000. The reserve price from the dealer listing the car was $27,000 and he wanted to split the difference. Didn't seem like a good deal for a car in AZ ($1,000 shipping on a used car sight-unseen). I watched a few other auctions and many of them didn't meet their reserves either - e-bay doesn't seem to be the place to get big-money for a regular car.
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you don't have to steal a car to scam someone on ebay.
step 1: find a VIN, salvage VIN works because people are less likely to check up on those, and they also won't question the low price as much.
step 2: search the internet for pictures of listed car to put in the ad. personal photos work better than stock photos because it makes it seem that the person listing is out there actually photographing the car.
step 3: commit the scam. make off with a few thousand dollars.
step 1: find a VIN, salvage VIN works because people are less likely to check up on those, and they also won't question the low price as much.
step 2: search the internet for pictures of listed car to put in the ad. personal photos work better than stock photos because it makes it seem that the person listing is out there actually photographing the car.
step 3: commit the scam. make off with a few thousand dollars.
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
you don't have to steal a car to scam someone on ebay.
step 1: find a VIN, salvage VIN works because people are less likely to check up on those, and they also won't question the low price as much.
step 2: search the internet for pictures of listed car to put in the ad. personal photos work better than stock photos because it makes it seem that the person listing is out there actually photographing the car.
step 3: commit the scam. make off with a few thousand dollars.
step 1: find a VIN, salvage VIN works because people are less likely to check up on those, and they also won't question the low price as much.
step 2: search the internet for pictures of listed car to put in the ad. personal photos work better than stock photos because it makes it seem that the person listing is out there actually photographing the car.
step 3: commit the scam. make off with a few thousand dollars.
The dealers I saw on e-bay demand a $500 deposit within 24 hours of winning a car bid or you are considered a non-paying bidder and cancelled out. Seems like it would be easy for a private seller to do the same and disappear with the deposit.
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Originally Posted by Cool-Blue-Dad
Ah, so the scam is not 'selling a stolen/defective car' the scam is 'selling no car'. There is no spoon. Got it.
The dealers I saw on e-bay demand a $500 deposit within 24 hours of winning a car bid or you are considered a non-paying bidder and cancelled out. Seems like it would be easy for a private seller to do the same and disappear with the deposit.
The dealers I saw on e-bay demand a $500 deposit within 24 hours of winning a car bid or you are considered a non-paying bidder and cancelled out. Seems like it would be easy for a private seller to do the same and disappear with the deposit.
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I went to a car show on Friday night, and they had a Shinka there. But, it was a grey Shinka. It said it was a 2005, too. I checked out the interior, and it was off-white microfiber, it was VERY nice. So I guess it is possible that the seller is not telling a lie! Though very, very, very unlikely, especially if he's not responding to questions.
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Yeah, except that technically they are for the 2006 model year that they come in gray, and they just started hitting lots in the last week or two. The whole VIN thing is what is the problem with this car. It is still a scam, just not known the exact type of scam being run here.
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I also noticed he only accepts cash or checks, which after he cashes them, is next to impossible to get your money back if it is a scam. It also says the interior is leather, but it has black and gray seats, which means it is not leather unless it was a custom job, which I doubt. His "most major accessories" essentially lists the basics that already come on the car, too.
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Something else... look at the date he joined eBay, (31Mar06), in addition to that, his feedback rating, (0). One other item, why wouldn't he post a photo of the VIN plate, seems to me that it's real easy to see. I sent him an email asking for more photos, (no reply), and when I called his phone, I got no answer. Yea, I'd say this has scam written all over it.
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Told my friend about the idiot and he did some digging. He said he couldn't find the cell phone number registered so that means it most likely is a prepaid phone, not a regular traceable service. Although he said it also could be a "new" number so it hadn't hit a directory yet.
Complete and total ripoff. I emailed him too and have gotten no response.
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Complete and total ripoff. I emailed him too and have gotten no response.
#41
Originally Posted by Aseras
Oh so you missed the "Report this item" link at the bottom of the page huh?
And when you finally do click on one, it just tells you to look at the Help page. It doesn't say that your report was filed.
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I bought a motorcycle on Ebay, but I made sure I went and saw it before even placing a bid! Then I just sold that same bike through Ebay, and someone used Buy It Now without even looking at or asking about the bike! Take the good with the bad. Some people are lacking in common sense.
He doesn't have any bids as of right now, so maybe he'll take a hint.
He doesn't have any bids as of right now, so maybe he'll take a hint.
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