How's the RX-8 doing?
10-13-2003, 11:43 PM
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Originally posted by Buger
Hi Ike,
I was just asking because I've never seen any RX-8 0-60 times of 5.5 seconds and 0-100 of 14.2 from any magazine.
Are you really sure that you're sure?
Brian
Hi Ike,
I was just asking because I've never seen any RX-8 0-60 times of 5.5 seconds and 0-100 of 14.2 from any magazine.
Are you really sure that you're sure?
Brian
flipped the first two numbers.
Should be
G35 5.5 0-60 14.2 0-100
RX-8 5.9 0-60 15.8 0-100
10-14-2003, 12:06 AM
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was reading someone comparing the 8 to the RSX-S?
just browsed an article from R & T showing from a hard launch
the RSX had a 0-60 time of 6.7sec, and 0-100 in 18sec
now where near the 8
anyway, there are alot of great cars out there, and the 8 is by no means the fastest, but still stands out in a pac!
a few minor mods and you'd surprise the guy driving the s2000 next to you
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just browsed an article from R & T showing from a hard launch
the RSX had a 0-60 time of 6.7sec, and 0-100 in 18sec
now where near the 8
anyway, there are alot of great cars out there, and the 8 is by no means the fastest, but still stands out in a pac!
a few minor mods and you'd surprise the guy driving the s2000 next to you
:D
10-14-2003, 12:23 AM
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10-14-2003, 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Haha, whoops, I see what I did now. You knew all along did you *cough* bastard *cough* :p
Haha, whoops, I see what I did now. You knew all along did you *cough* bastard *cough* :p
:D :D
10-14-2003, 02:24 AM
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Originally posted by brothervoodoo
Mental, the reason Mike does not want to answer is because he is going for the record by responding to any post by stringing together 8 words or less on any given response. In fact, you grudgingly forced him above to respond with the biggest mouthful he has said in quite some time!
Mental, the reason Mike does not want to answer is because he is going for the record by responding to any post by stringing together 8 words or less on any given response. In fact, you grudgingly forced him above to respond with the biggest mouthful he has said in quite some time!
Hey mike, try this: If you don't have anything new or unique to say in a thread try not saying anything at all. At least you're not trolling (usually) but your record isn't very impressive with such a mass of non-contributary pablum.
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10-14-2003, 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by Broker73
was reading someone comparing the 8 to the RSX-S?
just browsed an article from R & T showing from a hard launch
the RSX had a 0-60 time of 6.7sec, and 0-100 in 18sec
now where near the 8
anyway, there are alot of great cars out there, and the 8 is by no means the fastest, but still stands out in a pac!
a few minor mods and you'd surprise the guy driving the s2000 next to you
:D
was reading someone comparing the 8 to the RSX-S?
just browsed an article from R & T showing from a hard launch
the RSX had a 0-60 time of 6.7sec, and 0-100 in 18sec
now where near the 8
anyway, there are alot of great cars out there, and the 8 is by no means the fastest, but still stands out in a pac!
a few minor mods and you'd surprise the guy driving the s2000 next to you
:D
In case you can't were looking at around 18 seconds 0-100
10-14-2003, 06:40 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Haha, whoops, I see what I did now. You knew all along did you *cough* bastard *cough* :p
flipped the first two numbers.
Should be
G35 5.5 0-60 14.2 0-100
RX-8 5.9 0-60 15.8 0-100
Haha, whoops, I see what I did now. You knew all along did you *cough* bastard *cough* :p
flipped the first two numbers.
Should be
G35 5.5 0-60 14.2 0-100
RX-8 5.9 0-60 15.8 0-100
It has become obvious to me that Ike =
10-14-2003, 07:38 AM
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For everyone that chimed in with a bit of insight, thanks. I was just looking for a few general details w/o having to wade through a bunch of BS and trolling. I really do look forward to see ing the continued success of the 8. :D
10-14-2003, 08:39 AM
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Ike wrote "Now consider that most of the production 8s are trapping in the low 90s and running high 14s low 15s 1/4 mile, you do the math... In case you can't were looking at around 18 seconds 0-100."
In the same manner as Ike's two quater mile post being the true numbers for the 8. We can use the same method and massive amount of info to form a fact, as Ike has done. Because we can not use magazine figures, we can safely say, and draw some glareing generalities about the wealth of information that has come forward about autoxing the RX-8.
If Ike was open minded about the RX-8, as he emplores us to believe, he might have posted this: Now consider that most production 8's are dominating autox in the BS class, and are besting times in most other classes. You do the math. These facts make the RX-8 the best manuevering and all around road car on the market.
But Ike isn't, so he didn't.
In the same manner as Ike's two quater mile post being the true numbers for the 8. We can use the same method and massive amount of info to form a fact, as Ike has done. Because we can not use magazine figures, we can safely say, and draw some glareing generalities about the wealth of information that has come forward about autoxing the RX-8.
If Ike was open minded about the RX-8, as he emplores us to believe, he might have posted this: Now consider that most production 8's are dominating autox in the BS class, and are besting times in most other classes. You do the math. These facts make the RX-8 the best manuevering and all around road car on the market.
But Ike isn't, so he didn't.
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10-14-2003, 11:12 AM
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there is a lot more to a sports car than power.
my other street car has better than 6 lbs/hp and i think the rx8 at 12lbs/hp is wicked fast if you know how to drive it (still learning).
you want thrust, get a current model mustang cobra, those things are incredible on the boost. (and you can literally watch the gas gauge go down). they dont turn worth a damn though (been there, hit lots of cones). course the vette has endless pushrod torque AND gets great mileage.
rx8 is a great drivers car. the driving dynamic or whatever they call it is second only to a BMW in sporty 4 seaters.
james
my other street car has better than 6 lbs/hp and i think the rx8 at 12lbs/hp is wicked fast if you know how to drive it (still learning).
you want thrust, get a current model mustang cobra, those things are incredible on the boost. (and you can literally watch the gas gauge go down). they dont turn worth a damn though (been there, hit lots of cones). course the vette has endless pushrod torque AND gets great mileage.
rx8 is a great drivers car. the driving dynamic or whatever they call it is second only to a BMW in sporty 4 seaters.
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10-14-2003, 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by renotse
Looks like Ike convieniently for got the 0-130 reference. Let's see how he deals with this one.
It has become obvious to me that Ike =
Looks like Ike convieniently for got the 0-130 reference. Let's see how he deals with this one.
It has become obvious to me that Ike =
Chuck, I agree, it's not a large sample. But trap speeds are far more consistent than autox times. Autox depends a HUGE amount of driver skill, trap speeds don't nearly as much and the trap speeds will be pretty close whether you turn a lower or higher ET (with the exception of a missed shift). The Miata and Mini does very very well in autox, but will lose to a ton of the cars it beats at an autox at a real race track.
Ophi, I agree with most of what you say. However there are cars out there that will handle as well or better than the RX-8 and outpace it on the straights. It is a great drivers car, and is a great package, though I disagree with the driving dynamic statement being second to only BMW. But this has a lot to do with preference.
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10-14-2003, 02:24 PM
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Per another thread, the word from Mazda engineers at sevenstock was that the 8's tested by the mag's were running 100 octane and JDM ECU's.
Ike's got a point about trap speeds, but has posted the same crap over and over, so it's getting tired.
Ike's got a point about trap speeds, but has posted the same crap over and over, so it's getting tired.
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G35 vs the Jetta 1.8T
thought it would be of interest. Buddy just picked up his G35 Coupe last week, and we met for coffee today. On the way home, we pulled up beside on another and took off from a standstill. I currently drive the 1.8T, and there was half a car difference all the way to 100kph. He has the 6sp, and called me to joke he got ripped off:p
he probably didn't shift well ( at least I assume), but my point is in the real world, test mag times will vary with every car. And this was brought up in a few different articles I have read on the 350Z, RX8, and G35. The 8 is fast, but part of the joy is using the stick to work the car, and I think it can best be done in the 8 (just my opinion). But the G35 is a nice car!, but I really believe the 8 is faster than it feels. We were both surprised he didn't pull away from My Jetta, but I also know that cold air makes the turbo come to life a little more, and up here, it is getting colder
So maybe the Jetta had some more legs?
Only mod I am doing to the 8 is the fuel control system, and it will be interesting to see what the difference is when I line up with him next time in my new car:D
he probably didn't shift well ( at least I assume), but my point is in the real world, test mag times will vary with every car. And this was brought up in a few different articles I have read on the 350Z, RX8, and G35. The 8 is fast, but part of the joy is using the stick to work the car, and I think it can best be done in the 8 (just my opinion). But the G35 is a nice car!, but I really believe the 8 is faster than it feels. We were both surprised he didn't pull away from My Jetta, but I also know that cold air makes the turbo come to life a little more, and up here, it is getting colder
So maybe the Jetta had some more legs?
Only mod I am doing to the 8 is the fuel control system, and it will be interesting to see what the difference is when I line up with him next time in my new car:D
10-14-2003, 05:50 PM
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mag time tests
the guy who claimed they used 100 octane?....sorry, but I have a sub. to R & T and they claim to use the same (ie. Premium Fuel 91 or 92) fuel for test times on all the cars (350Z, G35 etc)
the guy who claimed they used 100 octane?....sorry, but I have a sub. to R & T and they claim to use the same (ie. Premium Fuel 91 or 92) fuel for test times on all the cars (350Z, G35 etc)
10-14-2003, 06:12 PM
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Originally posted by RussellP
he still wont give the reference for the 0-100mph time. He made it up.
he still wont give the reference for the 0-100mph time. He made it up.
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
10-14-2003, 06:18 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I already said it, C&D April issue, read the post man. Oh, and stop reading R&T. :p
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
I already said it, C&D April issue, read the post man. Oh, and stop reading R&T. :p
http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
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Mazda RX-8
Die-hard RX-7 fans, conditioned by three generations of extra-virgin sports cars, have been waiting to see if this four-seat model continues its predecessor's sporting tradition. So let's answer that question first: From the driver's seat, the new RX-8 is the best RX ever.
Credit Mazda's clever packaging, which incorporates space for four adults into a body no longer than a Porsche 911. Even more important, the RX-8 weighs a mere 2940 pounds—that's 560 pounds less than the G35 and even 200 less than the aforementioned Porsche.
Mazda RX-8
Die-hard RX-7 fans, conditioned by three generations of extra-virgin sports cars, have been waiting to see if this four-seat model continues its predecessor's sporting tradition. So let's answer that question first: From the driver's seat, the new RX-8 is the best RX ever.
Credit Mazda's clever packaging, which incorporates space for four adults into a body no longer than a Porsche 911. Even more important, the RX-8 weighs a mere 2940 pounds—that's 560 pounds less than the G35 and even 200 less than the aforementioned Porsche.
10-14-2003, 06:29 PM
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Originally posted by TybeeRX-8
And you neglected to add:
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And you neglected to add:
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10-14-2003, 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
I'm sorry, I thought posting the whole article would be better than just taking quotes from it... Would you like me to take some of the not so positive things said about the RX-8 from the article?
I'm sorry, I thought posting the whole article would be better than just taking quotes from it... Would you like me to take some of the not so positive things said about the RX-8 from the article?
10-14-2003, 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by silver8
Per another thread, the word from Mazda engineers at sevenstock was that the 8's tested by the mag's were running 100 octane and JDM ECU's.
Ike's got a point about trap speeds, but has posted the same crap over and over, so it's getting tired.
Per another thread, the word from Mazda engineers at sevenstock was that the 8's tested by the mag's were running 100 octane and JDM ECU's.
Ike's got a point about trap speeds, but has posted the same crap over and over, so it's getting tired.
People here post the same crap over and over again. It's a great package (which I've said several times in this post alone) but about average in a straightline for a modern day sportscar. I would not have said something if the fanboys didn't try to pump the car up into something it's not. That was my only point of this whole post, but some people have some problems with the 8 not being teh F4ast3st car EV4R, as well as with reading comprehension.
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IkeWRX:
You are really wasting your time IMHO.
When you buy a new car, a lot of research and time is part of the decision making process. Once this is done, most people become diehard fans of "their" car. It's really rare for an owner to become objective and I doubt you are going to change their belief that they have a totally fantastic car with no faults. It is probably the same with most owners of various cars.
The only thing I have found different with this forum compared to most other forums is that most of the owners (not all) are completely blind to their car's faults and have a real hard time with anyone making a perceived bad comment about the RX8. Therefore most discussions end up becoming rants and anyone disagreeing that the RX8 is the best at everything is called a TROLL.
Just my 2 cents.
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You are really wasting your time IMHO.
When you buy a new car, a lot of research and time is part of the decision making process. Once this is done, most people become diehard fans of "their" car. It's really rare for an owner to become objective and I doubt you are going to change their belief that they have a totally fantastic car with no faults. It is probably the same with most owners of various cars.
The only thing I have found different with this forum compared to most other forums is that most of the owners (not all) are completely blind to their car's faults and have a real hard time with anyone making a perceived bad comment about the RX8. Therefore most discussions end up becoming rants and anyone disagreeing that the RX8 is the best at everything is called a TROLL.
Just my 2 cents.
LIP