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Old 07-16-2007, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Visirale
Whether you like it or not these ARE cars that get scooped into the same categories. I was looking at G35s when I was shopping for a new car. We found the 8 for a steal, and ended up getting it... but I think it was too much of a whim. If I could go back, I'd probably get the G35. It's much better suited for the driving I do (almost all highway). I'm missing the torque of my old car (300 ft/lbs ). The RX8 gets looks, but nothing like a pristine g35.

I do love the 8, but I think it is too much of a niche car...

I'm gonna be using it only for carrying people around once I get a bike...
The G35 is too common...it doesnt turn heads the way the 8 does (since there are much less of them on the road). It's a nice looking car but too many of them to cause a second glance.
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If it's just a normal looking g35 that Johnny B. MD is driving, then yeah I agree... but they can look really nice in some configurations... this was the one I was looking at. I sure as hell gave it a second... third... fourth glance...

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Finanally some open mindeness, wow. I'm not the only one that thnks there are other cars to drive then just RX-8 and more straight aways then twisties if you are going anywhere but the auto-X track.

Sorry for having you take down you shades to see over the rims, that other options exist, Damn Rx-8 drivers are snobs. Anyway we all have opinions and think we know whats best for us. And definitely going to spend our money on what we want? But you have to admitt the other two cars along with being fine automobiles are better all season cars then the Rx-8 especially in the AWD version. Which the Rx-8 doesn't offer.

The RX-8 is a fine sports Car, but its not a AUTOMOBILE, though its close in the GT version, imho.

For the jerks complaining about my spelling and grammar, I hear that "Hamlet" is a good play to read. Maybe you can impress somebody and get on stage to get the attention that you desperately seems to need. Wanting to be a critic on the internet forum, u got far too much time on your hands.
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??? huh ??? was there lots of closed-mindedness b4? seemed like lots of people agreed w/your premise of rx8 is not a better luxury car.

tho there was some dissent about your pricing comparison.

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+ "I try to give a back handed compliment and you guys still want to eat baby food."
+ "Damn Rx-8 drivers are snobs."
+ this whole thread

makes this:
"Wanting to be a critic on the internet forum, u got far too much time on your hands."
pretty hypocritical. (imo, of course)
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Yep lots of closed minded people who think that the 8 is not a luxury car but a sports car. They're so closed minded that they don't think that you should compare it to luxury cars...
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The pricing comparison is not too out of line if you're looking in the used market... From my experience an RX8 and a G35 can be had for the same price with usually about 15-20k miles of disparity between the two (newer RX8, older G35)...
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Originally Posted by donack456
Finanally some open mindeness, wow. I'm not the only one that thnks there are other cars to drive then just RX-8 and more straight aways then twisties if you are going anywhere but the auto-X track.

Sorry for having you take down you shades to see over the rims, that other options exist, Damn Rx-8 drivers are snobs. Anyway we all have opinions and think we know whats best for us. And definitely going to spend our money on what we want? But you have to admitt the other two cars along with being fine automobiles are better all season cars then the Rx-8 especially in the AWD version. Which the Rx-8 doesn't offer.

The RX-8 is a fine sports Car, but its not a AUTOMOBILE, though its close in the GT version, imho.

For the jerks complaining about my spelling and grammar, I hear that "Hamlet" is a good play to read. Maybe you can impress somebody and get on stage to get the attention that you desperately seems to need. Wanting to be a critic on the internet forum, u got far too much time on your hands.
NEWS FLASH

The Rx-8 is a car, but not an automobile!!

NEWS FLASH
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Originally Posted by donack456
Finanally some open mindeness, wow. I'm not the only one that thnks there are other cars to drive then just RX-8 and more straight aways then twisties if you are going anywhere but the auto-X track.

Sorry for having you take down you shades to see over the rims, that other options exist, Damn Rx-8 drivers are snobs. Anyway we all have opinions and think we know whats best for us. And definitely going to spend our money on what we want? But you have to admitt the other two cars along with being fine automobiles are better all season cars then the Rx-8 especially in the AWD version. Which the Rx-8 doesn't offer.

The RX-8 is a fine sports Car, but its not a AUTOMOBILE, though its close in the GT version, imho.
Listen to yourself. You set the tone of this thread by labeling it " I hate to be the bearer of bad news" - as if you have some information you feel sorry for us to share. Get over yourself, this is just your opinion, you even said so in the first paragraph.

You come on an RX8 enthusiast forum, and give us your "news flash" opinion with inflammatory statements such as "The Rx-8 is a good car just out of its leauge..." and this other pearl of wisdom "The RX-8 is a fine sports Car, but its not a AUTOMOBILE.."(Whatever that means). Then you go on to call others "snobs" who respond in kind with their opinion.

Please share with us your magical formula for quantifying "better". A car is a personal choice and each owner has a different list of characteristics that make them choose one car over another. Topics such as price, looks, performance are all broad characteristics and you don't just choose a car based on that alone. It's all about the full package and everyone's idea of the full package is different.

Take the BMW 3 series sedans you keep referencing. These are very nice cars and I have driven them on many occasions, but it's still a sedan, it's not low to the ground, it doesn't have a roadster, "sports car" feel when you sit in it, and it's not a rotary. It doesn't have anywhere near the same package as the RX8 does. I would never trade my 8 for a 3 series. Anybody that is comparing buying an RX8 to a BMW 3 series doesn't know what they want out of a car.

There is a reason the RX8 is put in the same class as the other cars you mentioned. It's because it has the package that many are looking for, it's because their owners have more fun driving it then a 330i or a 350Z.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the RX8 is just not the car for you, and we don't really care why.

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Why buy a (brand new, 30k) car when you can buy a used car for the same price? Because I want a brand new car.

Compare the car in same price range and same condition. Not the same price range but different condition. For your logic, RX-8 (used) should be compare to brand new Civic Si/Miata/Sky.... etc.
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The title of was trying to be funny, can you put your Don Pierr water down long enough to laugh a little darn, you snobs.

OK I'm not as snobbish as you guys. I'll never understand. I like the Rx-8 but not as a all season car, 1 reason is I wouldn't want it to get hit. 2nd) reason is being a rear wheel drive vehicle it wouldn't handle well in the snow.

I don't see anything wrong with my Pricing a new bmw 330i/335i which can be had as a coupe is well over $40k dollars a new G35 is around $34k and from the price I've been offered a GT 8 is $32k. So you would have to buy a used bmw to get in that price range.

I agree the Rx-8 is the best used car deal and there is a chance getting a new base RX-8 for the same price as a used G35 or Bmw.

We all have an opinion I was just sharing mines pro or con you have yours. We will all buy what we want. But as a daily driver the G35 and the 335i in auto is a better choice, rather then the auto 8, is mo.

Curbside appeal is relative, but the 8 would be my 3rd choice here, most don't even know what it is. Just that it looks sharp, "But who makes it?", they would ask.

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Originally Posted by donack456
OK I'm not as snobbish as you guys. I'll never understand. I like the Rx-8 but not as a all season car, 1 reason is I wouldn't want it to get hit. 2nd) reason is being a rear wheel drive vehicle it wouldn't handle well in the snow.
1. No one wants to get hit.
2. The 8 handles pretty well in the snow with a set of snow tires.

Next "reasoning" ?

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Listen to yourself. You set the tone of this thread by labeling it " I hate to be the bearer of bad news" - as if you have some information you feel sorry for us to share. Get over yourself, this is just your opinion, you even said so in the first paragraph.

You come on an RX8 enthusiast forum, and give us your "news flash" opinion with inflammatory statements such as "The Rx-8 is a good car just out of its leauge..." and this other pearl of wisdom "The RX-8 is a fine sports Car, but its not a AUTOMOBILE.."(Whatever that means). Then you go on to call others "snobs" who respond in kind with their opinion.

Please share with us your magical formula for quantifying "better". A car is a personal choice and each owner has a different list of characteristics that make them choose one car over another. Topics such as price, looks, performance are all broad characteristics and you don't just choose a car based on that alone. It's all about the full package and everyone's idea of the full package is different.

Take the BMW 3 series sedans you keep referencing. These are very nice cars and I have driven them on many occasions, but it's still a sedan, it's not low to the ground, it doesn't have a roadster, "sports car" feel when you sit in it, and it's not a rotary. It doesn't have anywhere near the same package as the RX8 does. I would never trade my 8 for a 3 series. Anybody that is comparing buying an RX8 to a BMW 3 series doesn't know what they want out of a car.

There is a reason the RX8 is put in the same class as the other cars you mentioned. It's because it has the package that many are looking for, it's because their owners have more fun driving it then a 330i or a 350Z.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the RX8 is just not the car for you, and we don't really care why.
Nicely put.

The "bearer of bad news" buisness got our attention, and then after we read the post we learned that the "bad news" was nothing more than the opinion of someone comparing apples to oranges. As the thread continued we learned that the "bearer" knew little about the apples and even less about the oranges.

Your attempt at a "funny" title was your way of kicking a hornet's nest, and you should expect a certain amount of flaming when you post on an enthusiast site proclaiming the superiority of two vehicles that many of us consider pedestrian in several respects, their fine engineering notwithstanding. Some of us have owned BMW's and Infiniti's - I have owned both. Not to be unkind, but reading your opinions is a bit like listening to children argue over whether Captain Kirk could beat up Luke Skywalker.

Donack, we all want something different out of our cars. Much that goes into the decision is subjective. As to the RX8, an article that appeared in Automobile Magazine some time ago put it well: "It's simply not like anything else, much like the rotary engine itself. Certain kinds of drivers will make their way to this car, and they won't be like Porsche, Nissan, or BMW drivers. They'll be after something else."

We're after that "something else". You are not, and that's cool. Enjoy whatever car you decide on. In the meantime, you've had your 15 minutes. Maybe now you can find yourself a nice Mustang forum and go give them your thoughts on why the Charger is a superior car.
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are you comparing similar package cars? a G35 starts at 33,500 and a bmw 328i (bmw US site doesnt list the 330) starts at 32,400 while the rx-8 starts at 27,000. Now it's not absolutely different price ranges, but that's a note-worthy difference and comparing different car types. A G35 is more of a luxury sport (infiniti being a luxury car company). I will say the bmw is a it of a closer comparison though, because they aim for sport as well as luxury, and in my opinion they are one of the sportier luxury-type companies (compaired to lexus, mercedes and such).

I can see why you like those cars better, cause they arent the same type of car as the rx8. You wanted something sporty, but now you're looking for something with a bit more luxury. Even if they are different price ranges, the 8 doesnt seem like what you're looking for anyways.
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Originally Posted by donack456
The title of was trying to be funny, can you put your Don Pierr water down long enough to laugh a little darn, you snobs.

OK I'm not as snobbish as you guys. I'll never understand. I like the Rx-8 but not as a all season car, 1 reason is I wouldn't want it to get hit. 2nd) reason is being a rear wheel drive vehicle it wouldn't handle well in the snow.

I don't see anything wrong with my Pricing a new bmw 330i/335i which can be had as a coupe is well over $40k dollars a new G35 is around $34k and from the price I've been offered a GT 8 is $32k. So you would have to buy a used bmw to get in that price range.

I agree the Rx-8 is the best used car deal and there is a chance getting a new base RX-8 for the same price as a used G35 or Bmw.

We all have an opinion I was just sharing mines pro or con you have yours. We will all buy what we want. But as a daily driver the G35 and the 335i in auto is a better choice, rather then the auto 8, is mo.

Curbside appeal is relative, but the 8 would be my 3rd choice here, most don't even know what it is. Just that it looks sharp, "But who makes it?", they would ask.
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Re-reading the initial post, I think the only "Bad news" should be to your 5th grade English teacher.

My friend has a used boat (center console Boston Whaler) that's worth about $30K. Can we throw that in the mix as well? It's a swell form of transportation, quite luxurious, and it can do 1 thing the RX8 can't...


...go in the water.
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Sigh. I don't care what anybody says, I'd choose to take back my 8 over pretty much any other car on the road. Maybe it doesn't have the power and maybe it doesn't have the luxury, but I'll be damned if it didn't provide the BEST overall driving experience of any car I've ever driven. I owned an IS300 and regularly drove a 325i and neither of those cars even came close to the feeling I got when driving my 8.

Out of its league? Please. Maybe on paper, but I could easily see myself choosing the 8 again over cars costing two to three times as much. About the only car I could realistically see myself choosing over the 8 right now is the Elise.
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I like theG35.

Too much money for the value.
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a note about the G35. As he mentions the AWD feature, I believe that is only available on the sedan, and not the coupe. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, though that appears to be the case. I like the looks of the G35 coupe, and if I was aiming for luxury I would probably consider one but obviously I decided I like the 8 more. The coupe is a bit faster than the sedan if I recall correctly (and it would make sense). Though the sedan does not strike me as a sports car, even if it can get up and go. But that's probably me compairing it to the coupe which makes a large difference anyways (cause I would only get the coupe, for now)
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Re-reading the initial post, I think the only "Bad news" should be to your 5th grade English teacher.

...go in the water.
On the water! Unless it really does sink then yes you are correct then.
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On the water! Unless it really does sink then yes you are correct then.
Hahha if you wanna be technical, it is in fact IN the water. On the water would imply the boat skims over the top without ever breaking the surface tension. Prepositions are FUN!
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Hahha if you wanna be technical, it is in fact IN the water. On the water would imply the boat skims over the top without ever breaking the surface tension. Prepositions are FUN!
Well then technically only part of the hull is IN the water. So is the hull considered a boat? Oh what have I gotten myself into.....
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BlueRensis & Officeninja- If you think somerone is trying to impress you are the stupid ones, bc you are waiting for something thats never going to happen from me. Like you don't give a crap about my opinion I certainly don't give a dump about yours. If that was an attempt to play pompous or snobish it didn't work, drink your corn whiskey and rye and leave a comment to someone that cares. You backwood proud that you found a mistake, preps.

Some of the other comments pro or cons are interesting and informative.

I never thought that Sports Car drivers came to a forum to always agree. Options even options outside its class are valid, I mean $32k is $32k G35 or RX-8.

I acknowledge the, oh what a feeling thing, but really you have more straight- aways then curves if you are going anywhere, but the auto-x track. Not that you don't know that but this is my reasoning.

I'd like a RX-8 but it couldn't be my only car. Just my O.

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this thread makes my head hurt. it also makes baby jesus cry. then touch himself.



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Ok...didn't read the whole thread on this, but with the current Mazda incentives ($800 rebate - apply online coupon) PLUS the $2250. That is a total of $3050 off of MSRP!!! How you can still pay 32K on a GT is beyond me..you should be able to get a GT (minus GPS) for 29K! For the price, it is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than an Infiniti or 350Z..but..that is just me
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Originally Posted by donack456

I never thought that Sports Car drivers came to a forum to always agree. Options even options outside its class are valid, I mean $32k is $32k G35 or RX-8.
$32k is $32k G35 or RX-8 or my original idea of a diamond covered BMX bike. Yea we should still compare them just cuz they're the same price...does that make sense??

I already shot down your two reasons for not wanting the 8 as a daily driver...just seems like you're trolling...


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