I hit a curb going 60MPH+
02-02-2005, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PUR NRG
How can you read this:
and then ask what makes you ignorant, without being amazingly clueless?
and then ask what makes you ignorant, without being amazingly clueless?
Please read the thread before you comment on it. I never said a better 1/4 time would make me a better driver. I was implying that I was reving through the gears at the dragstrip. Someone said that reving throught the gears and speeding is dangerous, but they never stopped to think that I do have access to a drag strip.
02-02-2005, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AQA101
Car control is one thing - self control is another thing.
You won't learn the basics of traffic on a track or strip. The real problem is the other 10.000 cars on the road.
You won't learn the basics of traffic on a track or strip. The real problem is the other 10.000 cars on the road.
02-02-2005, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
You lost me there...
Nuance. While driving I can 'sense' what other cars are likely to do, based on 16 years of driving experience. I can, with 80-90% accuracy pick out when a car will suddenly pull out into my lane, for example. I can predict if a truck will let me pass before pulling out across traffic, or if I should start braking. Those types of things ONLY come with experience.
02-02-2005, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dmp
Nuance. While driving I can 'sense' what other cars are likely to do, based on 16 years of driving experience. I can, with 80-90% accuracy pick out when a car will suddenly pull out into my lane, for example. I can predict if a truck will let me pass before pulling out across traffic, or if I should start braking. Those types of things ONLY come with experience.
02-02-2005, 04:47 PM
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To much teenage testostorone and not enough driving skills , i hope you have learnt from your experience , i am going to show my teenage sons your pics hopefully they will learn from them . 
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02-02-2005, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
To much teenage testostorone and not enough driving skills , i hope you have learnt from your experience , i am going to show my teenage sons your pics hopefully they will learn from them .
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02-02-2005, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
Did you not read my post? I think you are being a little clueless....
02-02-2005, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PUR NRG
Okay, let's break this down one point at a time. I know you have been on a drag strip. Have you driven on a track? They are not the same.
02-02-2005, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhawb
Track and strip are two VERY different beasts. Far from semantics.
Here...
http://sco.dragracing.com/drag_racing/101/track.asp
http://www.enhancedhealth.com/1dragracing.htm
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02-02-2005, 05:26 PM
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A lot of us have been there and done similar driving bloopers , i for one rolled my first car and nearly killed myself and my passenger , now that i look back on it i shudder at the thought that i could have died at 19 years of age .
I recently turned 51 years of age and i allways celebrate my birthday on the Cup Tuesday the day of my accident because thats the day i cheated death .
The 32 years that i have lived since cheating death at 19 , have given me my wife 3 sons my family and friends , to give that up for a few minutes of bravado what a waste .
'Youth is wasted on the young , and money is wasted on the old '
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A lot of us have been there and done similar driving bloopers , i for one rolled my first car and nearly killed myself and my passenger , now that i look back on it i shudder at the thought that i could have died at 19 years of age .
I recently turned 51 years of age and i allways celebrate my birthday on the Cup Tuesday the day of my accident because thats the day i cheated death .
The 32 years that i have lived since cheating death at 19 , have given me my wife 3 sons my family and friends , to give that up for a few minutes of bravado what a waste .
'Youth is wasted on the young , and money is wasted on the old '
cheers
michael
02-02-2005, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
Jaisin
A lot of us have been there and done similar driving bloopers , i for one rolled my first car and nearly killed myself and my passenger , now that i look back on it i shudder at the thought that i could have died at 19 years of age .
I recently turned 51 years of age and i allways celebrate my birthday on the Cup Tuesday the day of my accident because thats the day i cheated death .
The 32 years that i have lived since cheating death at 19 , have given me my wife 3 sons my family and friends , to give that up for a few minutes of bravado what a waste .
'Youth is wasted on the young , and money is wasted on the old '
cheers
michael
A lot of us have been there and done similar driving bloopers , i for one rolled my first car and nearly killed myself and my passenger , now that i look back on it i shudder at the thought that i could have died at 19 years of age .
I recently turned 51 years of age and i allways celebrate my birthday on the Cup Tuesday the day of my accident because thats the day i cheated death .
The 32 years that i have lived since cheating death at 19 , have given me my wife 3 sons my family and friends , to give that up for a few minutes of bravado what a waste .
'Youth is wasted on the young , and money is wasted on the old '
cheers
michael
02-02-2005, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Lock & Load
'Youth is wasted on the young , and money is wasted on the old '
02-02-2005, 05:36 PM
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Jaisin:
I'd STRONGLY recommend you learn to drive at a TRACK. Driving at a TRACK will teach you a zillion lessons. not the least of which are:
1) You can't repeal the laws of physics
2) What the true limits of your car are, in a realtively safe and controlled environment
3) What the limits of your car control abilities are
4) How to best drive to handle a car in quick-reaction situations.
You don't have to search out an expensive road course or anything. Get in touch with your local SCCA chapter, and start going to their autocrosses. Because you are under 18, you will need an adult guardian with you, but you will have a blast, and it should help you soak up some of your natural need for speed.
You're upset because we're ripping you a new ******* over this. Well, it's well deserved. What would have happened if a young woman were on a bicycle with her baby in a "tag along" behind the bike and they got in your way? Or if you had overcorrected, shot into traffic and head-on'd another car?
What would have happened is what happened to a friend of mine's son - he was sixteen, he wasn't even driving a performance car, but a beater Toyota pickup truck. His cell phone rang, he reached to grab it, knocked it onto the floor, bent over to pick it up and in that moment crossed the centerline going about 30 mph. ONLY 30 mph. He hit another car headon that was also going 30 mph. That car was carrying a couple and a baby in a baby seat in the back.
The baby is now an orphan. My friend's son was charged with felony vehicular homicide as an adult. He started his prison sentence of 15 YEARS on his 18th birthday (it took 18 months for the whole investigation/trial/sentencing thing to play out). He will get out of the state penitentiary on his 33rd birthday. He has to live with killing two people and orphaning a third.
You want that?
Another reason we're mad is because if you read your intiial post telling us of this, you seem PROUD of what you did and totally unremorseful. Anyone who is proud and unremorseful of wrecking a beautiful car needs to SERIOUSLY grow up. What else can we think of your use of :D all over your message?
Sorry pal. Grow up and drive responsibly.
Please.
We're all watching over you.
Stew, dad of three boys who will all get their licenses in the next 6 years.
I'd STRONGLY recommend you learn to drive at a TRACK. Driving at a TRACK will teach you a zillion lessons. not the least of which are:
1) You can't repeal the laws of physics
2) What the true limits of your car are, in a realtively safe and controlled environment
3) What the limits of your car control abilities are
4) How to best drive to handle a car in quick-reaction situations.
You don't have to search out an expensive road course or anything. Get in touch with your local SCCA chapter, and start going to their autocrosses. Because you are under 18, you will need an adult guardian with you, but you will have a blast, and it should help you soak up some of your natural need for speed.
You're upset because we're ripping you a new ******* over this. Well, it's well deserved. What would have happened if a young woman were on a bicycle with her baby in a "tag along" behind the bike and they got in your way? Or if you had overcorrected, shot into traffic and head-on'd another car?
What would have happened is what happened to a friend of mine's son - he was sixteen, he wasn't even driving a performance car, but a beater Toyota pickup truck. His cell phone rang, he reached to grab it, knocked it onto the floor, bent over to pick it up and in that moment crossed the centerline going about 30 mph. ONLY 30 mph. He hit another car headon that was also going 30 mph. That car was carrying a couple and a baby in a baby seat in the back.
The baby is now an orphan. My friend's son was charged with felony vehicular homicide as an adult. He started his prison sentence of 15 YEARS on his 18th birthday (it took 18 months for the whole investigation/trial/sentencing thing to play out). He will get out of the state penitentiary on his 33rd birthday. He has to live with killing two people and orphaning a third.
You want that?
Another reason we're mad is because if you read your intiial post telling us of this, you seem PROUD of what you did and totally unremorseful. Anyone who is proud and unremorseful of wrecking a beautiful car needs to SERIOUSLY grow up. What else can we think of your use of :D all over your message?
Sorry pal. Grow up and drive responsibly.
Please.
We're all watching over you.
Stew, dad of three boys who will all get their licenses in the next 6 years.
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02-02-2005, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaisin
Track... Strip... Now you are playing semantics. Either or, I never said either of them would improve my driving. Leave it at that. Semantics will get you nowhere.
Originally Posted by RenesisRacer
Take it to a lapping day at a racetrack.
Originally Posted by StewC625
I agree with whoever said rather than worry about $3000 worth of mods, buy a trip to driving school.
Having done the Skip Barber two-day track school twice, the Bob Bondurant school of high performance driving once and a two day stint of driving at BMW's performance center, I can tell you there's no substitute for good training.
Having done the Skip Barber two-day track school twice, the Bob Bondurant school of high performance driving once and a two day stint of driving at BMW's performance center, I can tell you there's no substitute for good training.
Originally Posted by Jaisin
I have been to the track so don't bother telling me to go there, because I do.
1. You confuse their reference to a track as talking about a drag strip.
2. Your response implies that since you've been to a drag strip you are learning the skills related to that.
3. Finally, how you can equate 1/4 mile skills with better road driving skills crosses the line of ignorance into amazing stupidity. The two have nothing in common and anyone who actually thought about it would realize that in a second.
Based on this and your other responses, it's clear you hate admitting you're wrong. That makes any observations or advice we can try to give pointless. It's also why everyone is flaming you.
02-02-2005, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PUR NRG
More ignorance, trying to confuse the issue. You never said driving on the track would improve your driving. Others have, and that was the point they were trying to make.
In response to these excellent suggestions you posted the following:
I say ignorance crossing into amazing stupidity for three reasons:
1. You confuse their reference to a track as talking about a drag strip.
2. Your response implies that since you've been to a drag strip you are learning the skills related to that.
3. Finally, how you can equate 1/4 mile skills with better road driving skills crosses the line of ignorance into amazing stupidity. The two have nothing in common and anyone who actually thought about it would realize that in a second.
Based on this and your other responses, it's clear you hate admitting you're wrong. That makes any observations or advice we can try to give pointless.
In response to these excellent suggestions you posted the following:
I say ignorance crossing into amazing stupidity for three reasons:
1. You confuse their reference to a track as talking about a drag strip.
2. Your response implies that since you've been to a drag strip you are learning the skills related to that.
3. Finally, how you can equate 1/4 mile skills with better road driving skills crosses the line of ignorance into amazing stupidity. The two have nothing in common and anyone who actually thought about it would realize that in a second.
Based on this and your other responses, it's clear you hate admitting you're wrong. That makes any observations or advice we can try to give pointless.
YOU ARE WRONG
I never said that 1/4 miles skills has anything to do with road driving skills.
You are the dumbest person I have met.
I said I went to the track because I like to rev through the gears. I never said it had to do anything with becoming a better driver. Someone SAID SPEEDING IS BAD AND I SAID I GO TO THE DRAG STRIP TO REV THROUGH THE GEARS YOU IDIOT.
You can refer to a drag strip as a track. Even Polak did it. Jesus christ people. WTF is wrong with you.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...ght=drag+track
About the heel toeing. I ASKED ABOUT IT BECAUSE YOU GUYS SUGGESTED IT. LOOK AT THE DATES ON MY POSTS. GOOD LORD.
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/heel-toe-8-a-47611/
https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/running-through-gears-47514/
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