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Old 05-21-2007, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Winfree
Is there a model with servo motors in the mirrors so that they close up against the car to reduce wind speed?

Is this a dealership add on?
My mirrors do that (JDM spec) but its just for the car wash - nothing to do with wind resistance .

Some other differences I've picked up JDM vs US

Clear corners come std

MP3 player & the good Bose system (maybe an option - don't know )

No spare tyre

3rd gear ratio

1 oil cooler

no TPS

No sunroofs

No electric seats

No problems - lol
Old 05-21-2007, 03:21 AM
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on the options
japanese high power comes with standard:
xenon lights, climate control, mp3 player and clear front corner lights.
in contrast with the US which comes with manual A/C, right?
you can add although all the above mentioned extras.
Old 05-21-2007, 05:32 AM
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Some one said you cant swap the PCM between export & JDM models.

I recall you can do a straight swap with the RX-7 ones as long as it was a 16-bit to 16-bit or 8-bit to 8-bit type.

Am interested in getting more power from my 03 4AT version & wanted to go from the (export) 141kw to the (JDM) 154Kw version by way of swapping PCM's.

Surely the "pin-outs" are the same from PCM to PCM..........??

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Old 05-21-2007, 08:42 AM
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Now I wonder is it possible to swap a JDM 6 Speed Tranny into my Car.

Or is it possible to change the gear inside.
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There are differences in PCM for sure. I know that, cause I sent my ECU to RB for their race flash and now my car drives like a ****.

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Old 05-22-2007, 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by MegaLoL
There are differences in PCM for sure. I know that, cause I sent my ECU to RB for their race flash and now my car drives like a ****.
Ouch!!!!

In your case, you had your original PCM re-programmed. is that correct....??
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I'm really interested in all this ECU swapping problems.

The best thing would be that the Cobb Accessport that is coming out would work for North America, Europe, and Asia.

Then the ECU issue would not be a problem. More people need to e-mail Cobb to make sure their upcoming Accessport for the RX-8 is "International friendly".
Old 05-22-2007, 05:39 AM
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wow!!.. anyone swapped Japanese ECU to his/her US/EU rx8?
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cobb is making an access port for the 8? I thought they were exclusive for subaru, hmm. . .
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Originally Posted by DMRH
Ouch!!!!

In your case, you had your original PCM re-programmed. is that correct....??
Yep. Now I have north american version And I can't flash it EU version of flash. ECU must be reset and re-programed with keys imobilaizer etc.
Old 05-22-2007, 06:29 PM
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I'll just throw this in... Canada models have headlight washers and heated seats, no TPMS and no auto climate control.
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Originally Posted by RX-8Newb
cobb is making an access port for the 8? I thought they were exclusive for subaru, hmm. . .
Its true. Cobb is making AccessPORTs for the RX-8, Mazda3, and Mazda6. Long live the Cobb AccessPORT!!!! The problem is everybody is waiting on them to release them. They are even holding up the AxialFlow Supercharger kit, since it will use the Cobb AccessPORT.

The "trick" is that they release North American, Europe, and Asia versions. I think they have committed to an European version.... Now if they would do an Asia version than there would be no ECU swap issues, because you would just re-flash using the AccessPORT. It would also mean there would be a lot of maps for download and a map could be used no matter the country you were from.
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Yeah the ease of use with the access port was why everyone loved them for their subarus. Just plug it up and the ap does the rest. download different mod combinations of the web for it and never have to go to the dyno to get it tuned!
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My 2 cents...
I have a US spec 8 and my friend has a Cdn spec 8. The differences are….
Cda gets headlight washers and daytime running lights. (no TPMS)
US gets TPMS (no headlight washers or running lights)

Everything else is the same for the US and Cdn models.
Old 05-23-2007, 02:00 PM
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so there are no big differences.
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I think that European model doesn't seem to break down so often (the engine),wherever I asked they were like, what are you talking about??

My friend also has one but no problems at all...but another one had failed at 80t km but that bro never checked oil and was driving the hell out of it every day all day...it can't really work without oil...

I'm preparing to buy an RX 8 for a German market.

...could it be that different computer setups for different markets can cause engine to fail??

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Wait... isn't there a difference with the oil injector that goes into into the rotor?

IE: wasn't there an ECU re-flash in 2005 to adjust the oil injection flow for the U.S. spec'd 5w20 recommendation? Since EU from the U.K. sites i've seen use 5w30?

Reason i'm asking or bringing this up i guess, is potential damage issue if a heavier oil is used (5w30 Royal Purple) vs 5w20? will the thicker viscosity oil impact how the oil pump manages delivery?
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all the fat people in america are why rx8s here fail. mazda didnt calculate the toll an extra 300lbs would put on the car.



(yes yes i know, impossible because they calculate for 4 passengers..)
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I think that European model doesn't seem to break down so often (the engine),wherever I asked they were like, what are you talking about??
I also haven't heard any engine blow in the japanese rx8s, Im guessing they don't drive as much as we do.
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Originally Posted by Eight
I also haven't heard any engine blow in the japanese rx8s, Im guessing they don't drive as much as we do.
nah the rest of the world knows how to upkeep this car. We the land of the lard and 0-60 are quite the idiot when comes to taking care of cars compared to RoW.
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Originally Posted by whitebeau
Wait... isn't there a difference with the oil injector that goes into into the rotor?

IE: wasn't there an ECU re-flash in 2005 to adjust the oil injection flow for the U.S. spec'd 5w20 recommendation? Since EU from the U.K. sites i've seen use 5w30?

Reason i'm asking or bringing this up i guess, is potential damage issue if a heavier oil is used (5w30 Royal Purple) vs 5w20? will the thicker viscosity oil impact how the oil pump manages delivery?
Japanese rx8 uses SL 0w-20 and they also lose warranty if they use a different viscosity from what ive read, so i'm guessing they have similar injectors.
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Originally Posted by Eight
Japanese rx8 uses SL 0w-20 and they also lose warranty if they use a different viscosity from what ive read, so i'm guessing they have similar injectors.
I thought Japan was specc'd for 5W30? I know Australia at least has that spec and I think Europe does also.

It's kind of interesting that RX-8s aren't failing in the rest of the world. Is that long to ECU differences, driving styles, or something more basic like the lack of desert heat?
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It must be the oil and impact of hot weather,plus if someone doesn't keep up the oil level up,there's less oil to absorb heat and there you go...
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I have a JDM and i use 5w40 Full synthetic.
Car came standard with clear corners ,bose 6disk changer,HID and red leather for steering wheel brake lever etc...
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Originally Posted by CostasX8
I have a JDM and i use 5w40 Full synthetic.
Car came standard with clear corners ,bose 6disk changer,HID and red leather for steering wheel brake lever etc...
How much miles did you cover and any problems?
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