The little (dissapointing) things
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Things that don't cost a lot but could make the 8 even better:
1] Headlights that turn off when ignition is off
2] 2 level heat setting for seats
3] Seat memory
4] Oil level indicator (like a fuel level indicator)
5] Better location for parking brake (ever see the camouflaged parking brake from the Saab 9-3?)
6] Lighted switches for door lock, trunk release, sunroof controls
7] 120v power outlet
At the car's bargain basement price, I'd be willing to pay a little extra for thes things, no?
1] Headlights that turn off when ignition is off
2] 2 level heat setting for seats
3] Seat memory
4] Oil level indicator (like a fuel level indicator)
5] Better location for parking brake (ever see the camouflaged parking brake from the Saab 9-3?)
6] Lighted switches for door lock, trunk release, sunroof controls
7] 120v power outlet
At the car's bargain basement price, I'd be willing to pay a little extra for thes things, no?
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A guy at the office said it was the vinyl gasing in the sunlight. It looks terrible on my glass also. It is hard to clean off as well. Anyone have a cure other than elbow grease?
LEt me know - thanks.
LEt me know - thanks.
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I have the same problem...it drives my gf nuts...we drive away from the parking lights, and she has to remind me to turn on my lights...
Originally posted by gusmahler
This probably has been posted before, but my pet peeve is the dashboard lights. It lights up at night. In every car I've ever owned, the dash *only* lights up when the exterior lights are on. It serves to remind me to turn the lights on in the dark.
I'm coming from a car where the lights are always on (day or night). So when I get into the car at night and the dashboard lights up, I think that I may forget that I haven't turned the lights on.
Don't laugh. If you're in a well-lit area, you won't realize when your lights are off in some cars. I haven't made that mistake in the 8 (mainly because I'm parking in non-well-lit places and I can tell when the lights are off). But I can see that happening to me.
This probably has been posted before, but my pet peeve is the dashboard lights. It lights up at night. In every car I've ever owned, the dash *only* lights up when the exterior lights are on. It serves to remind me to turn the lights on in the dark.
I'm coming from a car where the lights are always on (day or night). So when I get into the car at night and the dashboard lights up, I think that I may forget that I haven't turned the lights on.
Don't laugh. If you're in a well-lit area, you won't realize when your lights are off in some cars. I haven't made that mistake in the 8 (mainly because I'm parking in non-well-lit places and I can tell when the lights are off). But I can see that happening to me.
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Originally posted by liqiud
I have the same problem...it drives my gf nuts...we drive away from the parking lights, and she has to remind me to turn on my lights...
I have the same problem...it drives my gf nuts...we drive away from the parking lights, and she has to remind me to turn on my lights...
sound when the driver’s door is opened."
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My 3 concerns:
-Fuel/Milege (however, it is improving luckily)
-Difficulty of passengers getting in and out of the rear seats when car is parked
-I keep getting annoying noises from something near the passenger side that i can't figure out whats causing it (so rather than fixing it, i ignore it by turning music up)
-Fuel/Milege (however, it is improving luckily)
-Difficulty of passengers getting in and out of the rear seats when car is parked
-I keep getting annoying noises from something near the passenger side that i can't figure out whats causing it (so rather than fixing it, i ignore it by turning music up)
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Originally posted by Yanje
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-Difficulty of passengers getting in and out of the rear seats when car is parked
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-Difficulty of passengers getting in and out of the rear seats when car is parked
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1) Passenger window needs AUTO down also!
2) I wish the headlights would come on when I unlock the car with the key fob, alot of cars do this for safety, and so you can see in dark places.
3) Oil dipstick is hard to reach
4) Fuel cap needs holder, I hate having it hang up against the car.
2) I wish the headlights would come on when I unlock the car with the key fob, alot of cars do this for safety, and so you can see in dark places.
3) Oil dipstick is hard to reach
4) Fuel cap needs holder, I hate having it hang up against the car.
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Originally posted by rx8cited
This does not work for you? "Lights-On Reminder: If lights are on and the key is removed from the ignition switch, a beep will
sound when the driver’s door is opened."
This does not work for you? "Lights-On Reminder: If lights are on and the key is removed from the ignition switch, a beep will
sound when the driver’s door is opened."
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Originally posted by gusmahler
That's a different problem (lights on when car is off). We are talking about the opposite problem (car on and moving, headlights off). Because the dashboard is lit at night, it may take some getting used to for turning the lights on at night.
That's a different problem (lights on when car is off). We are talking about the opposite problem (car on and moving, headlights off). Because the dashboard is lit at night, it may take some getting used to for turning the lights on at night.
The dashboard does light a different color for lights off vs lights on right (unless you have the dashboard light dimmer switch clicked to daytime position)?
I suppose the point is the dashboard is not dark, so it's easy to forget that the exterior lights are not on.
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I am utterly disappointed that I can't find anything to bitch about on this car, and i even have the auto!!! I'm also disappointed that I have to leave the car from time to time upon arriving at my destination, too bad I can't find a job (other than courier or pizza dude) that pays me for driving my 8, (or any 8 in general)...sigh.....so disappointed.......lol
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Other minor problems
* I picked up clothes from the cleaner today. There is no place to hang the clothes in the back seat. I have to hang it on the handle over the passenger seat.
* The navigation system isn't very bright when the lights are on. I probably turn my lights on sooner than most, but if I turn the lights on before it is very dark, the Nav screen is nearly illegible.
* The navigation system isn't very bright when the lights are on. I probably turn my lights on sooner than most, but if I turn the lights on before it is very dark, the Nav screen is nearly illegible.
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Re: Other minor problems
Originally posted by gusmahler
[B* The navigation system isn't very bright when the lights are on. I probably turn my lights on sooner than most, but if I turn the lights on before it is very dark, the Nav screen is nearly illegible. [/B]
[B* The navigation system isn't very bright when the lights are on. I probably turn my lights on sooner than most, but if I turn the lights on before it is very dark, the Nav screen is nearly illegible. [/B]
Personally I would like a brighter mode for daytime use when wearing sunglasses (on both nav screen and instruments). I'm always looking over my shades to read small details like time/distance remaining.
OK, so my eyes are as old as the rest of me.
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Re: Re: Other minor problems
Originally posted by bobclevenger
But any brighter would be too bright when it's dark, and you can always set your nav display to use the "daylight" mode even when the lights are on.
But any brighter would be too bright when it's dark, and you can always set your nav display to use the "daylight" mode even when the lights are on.
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Re: Re: Re: Other minor problems
Originally posted by gusmahler
Ah, I didn't know that. How do I go about doing that? I know where you can select the color of the screen in day and night, but I must have overlooked any brightness setting.
Ah, I didn't know that. How do I go about doing that? I know where you can select the color of the screen in day and night, but I must have overlooked any brightness setting.
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you know, with the original little things thread being stickied, maybe this should go up there too. just a thought. if they're gonna see the positive, they should see the negative too.
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[QUOTE]''The rx-8 is a bit louder when the sunroof is open than the other cars I've driven. For example, with a bmw it seems to have a little thing that pops up, which you can't even notice to dampen the noise a bit.''
why does it seem that everyone that owns a 8 they previously owned a bmw. then they come to the forum and complain how the 8 is bad. my opinioin why did you even switch
why does it seem that everyone that owns a 8 they previously owned a bmw. then they come to the forum and complain how the 8 is bad. my opinioin why did you even switch
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Well, I owned a Mercedes before trading it in on my 8 and I think the 8 is a better car in almost all respects. Yes, there are some small things that the MB did better, but not many.
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So far, the only thing that would make me rethink getting the 8 would be the mileage. But even with the bad mileage I'm still really happy with the car. But the things I would change if I could (in order of importance)
1) mileage. 19/24 would be nice. I think I'm getting 15-16 now.
2) Having to worry about extra oil. The less non fun "work" you have to do is always better especially for a lazy *** like me.
3) homelink (on the GT). god it frustrates me. i've set homelinks on a lexus and 2 hondas. they were super easy to set up. i try with the 8 and one of the steps is "if it has a steady light you're done. if it blinks then has a steady light you must do these additional steps since it's a rolling signal". These extra steps include hitting the "smart" button on your garage opener installed in your garage. The problem here? I'm not sure if my garage opener has a smart button. also I need to set up the security gate one which I'm almost positive doesn't have a smart button. Both the garage and the security gate give me the blinks then steady. So basically I can't use it right now. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm not. And the honda ones and the lexus worked just fine when I set those.
4) Navigation software. It tells me my parents live on a "street" when they've always lived on an "avenue" and the honda navigation agrees, the street sign says avenue, mapquest and yahoo! maps say it's an avenue. Also I went to a family friend's place recently. It failed to find the address.
5) Trunk opening - would be nice if it were bigger. I tried loading a laundry basket in there. It didn't fit thru the opening though it would've fit if I could've gotten it in there. No biggie though, I just put it in the back seat.
6) Air conditioner. Be nice if it was consistently very cold. It's plenty good enuf to serve it's purpose - just it could be better.
1) mileage. 19/24 would be nice. I think I'm getting 15-16 now.
2) Having to worry about extra oil. The less non fun "work" you have to do is always better especially for a lazy *** like me.
3) homelink (on the GT). god it frustrates me. i've set homelinks on a lexus and 2 hondas. they were super easy to set up. i try with the 8 and one of the steps is "if it has a steady light you're done. if it blinks then has a steady light you must do these additional steps since it's a rolling signal". These extra steps include hitting the "smart" button on your garage opener installed in your garage. The problem here? I'm not sure if my garage opener has a smart button. also I need to set up the security gate one which I'm almost positive doesn't have a smart button. Both the garage and the security gate give me the blinks then steady. So basically I can't use it right now. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I'm pretty sure I'm not. And the honda ones and the lexus worked just fine when I set those.
4) Navigation software. It tells me my parents live on a "street" when they've always lived on an "avenue" and the honda navigation agrees, the street sign says avenue, mapquest and yahoo! maps say it's an avenue. Also I went to a family friend's place recently. It failed to find the address.
5) Trunk opening - would be nice if it were bigger. I tried loading a laundry basket in there. It didn't fit thru the opening though it would've fit if I could've gotten it in there. No biggie though, I just put it in the back seat.
6) Air conditioner. Be nice if it was consistently very cold. It's plenty good enuf to serve it's purpose - just it could be better.
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4) Fuel cap needs holder, I hate having it hang up against the car.
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A few things:
1) The fragility of the center console sliding lid. It sits perfectly in position for my elbow to rest when my hand is on the shifter. However, the slider clip is SO fragile that about 5-7 lbs of downward force will snap it.
2) The speakers. The installation is fairly poor and they rattle when Lars goes nuts on his Bass drums. I have the Bose. (Note: installed sub and turned down OEM stereo bass..problem solved. Reality is, I shouldn't have had to...dealer was no help)
3) Effect of PCM flashes on performance. Yes, you read that right. One of the things that turned me on to the RX8 was it's smooth as silk acceleration. After the flashes (J, then M) the power seems to come in waves at specific RPM ranges. Around 6k rpm, the power falls off and acceleration is mostly flat.
4) Sun Visors. Intriguing idea, but ultimately pretty silly.
5) Of course, fuel economy. Posted 18/24. I shift between 3k and 4k rpm in city driving and routinely get 16-17mpg, 19-20 with some highway cruising at 75ish.
6) Dipstick is buried. Seems stupid since routine oil checks are required for good maintenance.
7) HP benchmarking. It seems silly to design a car that can't be benchmarked easily according to industry defacto standards. Independant verification of performance is a good thing to make customers happy.
1) The fragility of the center console sliding lid. It sits perfectly in position for my elbow to rest when my hand is on the shifter. However, the slider clip is SO fragile that about 5-7 lbs of downward force will snap it.
2) The speakers. The installation is fairly poor and they rattle when Lars goes nuts on his Bass drums. I have the Bose. (Note: installed sub and turned down OEM stereo bass..problem solved. Reality is, I shouldn't have had to...dealer was no help)
3) Effect of PCM flashes on performance. Yes, you read that right. One of the things that turned me on to the RX8 was it's smooth as silk acceleration. After the flashes (J, then M) the power seems to come in waves at specific RPM ranges. Around 6k rpm, the power falls off and acceleration is mostly flat.
4) Sun Visors. Intriguing idea, but ultimately pretty silly.
5) Of course, fuel economy. Posted 18/24. I shift between 3k and 4k rpm in city driving and routinely get 16-17mpg, 19-20 with some highway cruising at 75ish.
6) Dipstick is buried. Seems stupid since routine oil checks are required for good maintenance.
7) HP benchmarking. It seems silly to design a car that can't be benchmarked easily according to industry defacto standards. Independant verification of performance is a good thing to make customers happy.
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Originally Posted by Llathos
A few things:
6) Dipstick is buried. Seems stupid since routine oil checks are required for good maintenance.
6) Dipstick is buried. Seems stupid since routine oil checks are required for good maintenance.
Another annoying thing, the door can't stay open. Whenever I open the door when I'm inside the car, it closes back on me. Every single time.
I did find out that a previous annoyance that I posted had a solution. I thought, when the lights are on, the NAV system is unusable in daylight. That is still true, but by the dashboard brightness **** has a daylight setting where the dash does not turn orange--and the NAV is the traditional brightness. Very visible during daylight.
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Originally Posted by gusmahler
It's not just that the dipstick is buried. It's also the color of the dipstick--I can't see the oil line on it! I've never had trouble finding the oil level on any other dipstick I've used.
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To me, this is the most dissapointing thing. I can get past the lagging performence, or sucky a/c system that is loud, leeches to much power(to me anyway), and never works right. But it is beyond me why someone would make a car that knowingly burns more than average oil in order to function properly, tells you you must check the oil every other fill up, then does not seem to try to make that maintenence easier on the buyer.
I.e. the engine cover needing to be removed to check oil level. (to anyone who says they do not, i dont see how u do it without being a contortionist. The dip stick being so far down to reach. The color of the dip stick isnt easy to clearly see the level of oil in anything but direct sunlight. The oil pressure gauge isnt even functional, its a dummy gauge. And if your oil pressure dropped dramatically, you wouldnt even know it for several moments, which by then could damage your engine if you continue to drive. And not putting in something as simple as an oil level gauge. I know alot of people scoffed at this idea when i made a seperate post, but to me it would be so helpful. Not everyones car burns oil the same, and not everyone always has a convienient time to check the oil. An oil level gauge could at least give you an indication of when your getting low. :o Its just those things that frustrate me, really.