Mazda MX-8
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Originally Posted by ZoomZoom
If they didn't make the RX-8 I would have bought a MX-8. That being said, there is nothing like a rotary engine... music to my ears.
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Originally Posted by Elara
Me too- I originally wanted a Miata. I'm a hopeless Mazda addict, it appears. I decided to wait when I found out about the RX-8, though. who could resist such a unique and cool car??
I was all set to buy a Miata until I saw the RX-8 prototype… to this day I still think that the Miata is one of the sweetest rides available.
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It's all about the rotary. If it weren't all this is is an underpowered, 4 door GT car. If I wanted that, I could have had an Infinity G35. The rotary engine makes the car.
Consider:
Your rotary engine is TINY in size - about 15 inches front to back, 12 inches left to right and 17 inches tall with the manifold mounted (this is just the core engine - accessories not counted), and it weighs between 150 and 200 lbs. That little bitty package generates 238 horsepower.
The 3.2-Liter V6 in my Acura TL (good comparison engine since the same block is used by Honda for everything from the 2.8 V6 in the Accord to the 3.5 V6 in the MDX) measures about 24 inches tall (from pan to top of manifold), 27 inches wide (from edge of cylinder head cover to the opposite cylinder head cover) and 29 inches long (from accessory drive pulley to final drive seal). It weighs about 525 lbs.
What kind of car would the RX-8 be if it had that kind of engine under the hood?
Here's effects:
1) The hoodline would have to be drastically higher - this also affects the cowl height and the whole package
2) The engine would be mounted much further forward - the rotary is tucked underneath part of the cowl. This affects the suspension design and placement and also still the hood line and slope.
3) Weight distribution - currently 52% front/48% rear - this would shift to about 62% front, which would very negatively affect the handling balance.
and of course:
The cool factor. Then the car is just an ordinary car.
I dont know about you but I love driving something extraordinary!
Stew
Consider:
Your rotary engine is TINY in size - about 15 inches front to back, 12 inches left to right and 17 inches tall with the manifold mounted (this is just the core engine - accessories not counted), and it weighs between 150 and 200 lbs. That little bitty package generates 238 horsepower.
The 3.2-Liter V6 in my Acura TL (good comparison engine since the same block is used by Honda for everything from the 2.8 V6 in the Accord to the 3.5 V6 in the MDX) measures about 24 inches tall (from pan to top of manifold), 27 inches wide (from edge of cylinder head cover to the opposite cylinder head cover) and 29 inches long (from accessory drive pulley to final drive seal). It weighs about 525 lbs.
What kind of car would the RX-8 be if it had that kind of engine under the hood?
Here's effects:
1) The hoodline would have to be drastically higher - this also affects the cowl height and the whole package
2) The engine would be mounted much further forward - the rotary is tucked underneath part of the cowl. This affects the suspension design and placement and also still the hood line and slope.
3) Weight distribution - currently 52% front/48% rear - this would shift to about 62% front, which would very negatively affect the handling balance.
and of course:
The cool factor. Then the car is just an ordinary car.
I dont know about you but I love driving something extraordinary!
Stew
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Would probably still get the car if the car still has the same handling, however, i don't think I'd be in as much of a hurry to get it as I did with the Rx8.
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I really wanted a RX-7 many years ago when I was getting out of college and got married instead (I know - what was I thinking). When the RX-8 came out, I was just getting separated and I lusted after it for a year before purchasing (one week after all was final!). No rotary - no purchase for me. I wanted that uniqueness...
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One of the key benefits of a rotary is that it is small and light weight. Putting a V6 there will ruin the weight balance and the handling. No I will not buy a piston Mazda. I have two other cars with sweet straight six engines already.
Originally Posted by hotpot
Mazda would have sold more 8's if it had a high-power piston engine, IMO
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I wouldn't have went with Mazda if they put a V6 into the 8. I would have gone with a 350Z or an S2k instead. Hehe, maybe I'm biased towards rotaries because my first car in high school was an 87 GXL and then I got another one during my senior year in college (yup, another 87 GXL).
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Without the rotary, I probably wouldn't have even test driven the car, and would have upgraded from my old tacoma to a 4-by instead of even looking at sports cars (which is what I had been planning to do until I tested an 8 out of curiosity about how a rotary engine behaves....)
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The M3 has a big straight 6 engine and it handles pretty well. With a few adjustments the 8 should handle well too.
Originally Posted by BIMMER5&RX8
One of the key benefits of a rotary is that it is small and light weight. Putting a V6 there will ruin the weight balance and the handling. No I will not buy a piston Mazda. I have two other cars with sweet straight six engines already.
#21
Originally Posted by jrknu
what you are describing is 'A SATURN ION'
more hp than a AM RX8 same looks, same body
more hp than a AM RX8 same looks, same body
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With a 3.0l V6 it would be another overweight me too sports car. I would be suprised if the current design would even be possible with a larger motor.
I think I would have went with a S2K.
I think I would have went with a S2K.