Fact: the 350z is still faster then all of them

 

Compliments of the Mazda6 fanboy of the office...

 

mmmm.....Beeeeeer.

No problems with the z/OS...but maybe we can find a 350z for you to play with later.

 

Why?

Without Ford, Mazda would have been history years ago and Sumitomo Bank (the 2nd largest share holder of Mazda stock) would have liquidated the assets years ago.

Mazda and Ford have been together for just about 30 years now. Its not like it has been a bad relationship. They both have profited well from it. Both in tech and with products.

 

Just don't turn too fast. You'd probably skid off your chair mat...

 

Well, the Rx8 comunity can't really critisize when it comes to engine life expectancy....

Also, if you havent notice, almost ALL Japanese cars will rust way earlier than american cars will....

Just a thought...

 

Yes... but notice that Toyota is starting to slip in quality because they are growing....(the "Big Three" are called BIG for a reason)...

I want to see what happens with Honda and Toyota when they start producing the volumes as GM or Ford produce per year... (I'm not even counting Nissan)...

 

Yes. I know for a fact.

 

Devilboi. Nifty little diagram there

 

And if Im reading that right, Audio owns Lambo & Fiat owns Ferrari.. hmmm.

 

Then you don't know much.

GM is: Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Daewoo, GMC, Holden, Hummer, Opel, Pontiac, Saturn, Saab and Vauxhal.
Toyota is: Daihatsu, Hino, Lexus and Scion.
Ford is: Lincoln, Mercury, Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo, the last three of which are for sale. They just ditched Aston Martin.
VW is: Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, SEAT and Škoda.

What I laugh about is Daimler. They played Chrysler like a fiddle. They bought them up, raped them for their retail engine (until it wasn't profitable) then sold them off, keeping the only useful part - Mitsubishi. I suspect Chrysler will go completely under in a few years.

Yes - because in America, they are large companies. World-wide, they are just part of the noise.

A little behind on your numbers there, I see.
Toyota already passed everybody except GM and they are not even a whole million units behind (8 million vs. 8.9 million).
Japan already produces more vehicles than the entire US output (11.5M to 11.3M) - quite a stat for a country with less than half our population.
Toyota produces 130% more vehicles than Ford!

Its the other way around, unless you are talking about pre-1980 cars in which case it is a tie. What are you driving? A '76 Datsun?

Fiat does own Ferrari, as well as Abarth, Alfa Romeo, Iveco, Lancia and Maserati.

 

eh, they get the government to bail them out again.
I was just about to say the same thing.

 

Well, I had a Mazda Mx6 1990 - Rusted.
My 1994 Toyota Tercel sitting in my driveway - rusting....
My 1989 Mercury Grand Marquis - almost no rust....

Am I missing something...?

 

Not anymore they wont. They are no longer an American company...

Apparently. (And its not just knowing how to trim quotes when posting.)

 

Here is a quote posted about the LS1 on another forum.

"No way dude...i saw an LS1 fight godzilla and the LS1 beat godzilla and it looked in the air and was like what do you think of that god? And god was like bring it bitch, so they fought and the LS1 beat god and now the LS1 is god because its the greatest thing ever"

Sorry can't help it, my last car was a 02 WS6

 

I have to say, I believe Rust is all based on where you are going to live.. I highly doubt MM has to worry about Rust being in AZ all that much, where as living here in NE where they like to Salt the roads, rust is a bit more of a concern.

 

Yes.. I know.... I can't quote....

Can somebody teach me...??

 

Well, I came here from the east coast mostly for that reason - I couldn't stand the precipitation/humidity/snow/salt.

Japanese cars from the '80s tended to loose their fender and QP edges.
American cars tended to rust everywhere - especially the frames and flat panels.
Only American cars seem to generate rust across the hood and roof.

No, they can't.

 

Stockholders always screw things up.

 

Wouldn't dream of it!

And here, because Mustangs can't handle, you can look at the documentation all the way back to 1988 that shows their numerous top finishes in SCCA sanctioned racing mean absolutely nothing! And, this is only from one race team!

http://www.steeda.com/highlights/

Of course you'll probably just skip over it and assume I made it up or whatever, or the "highlights" are biased, I don't mind.

 

my friend just brought a 2003 gt mustang and he already had to replace his alternator and his window is getting stuck. It only has 34k miles on it.

All i got to say.

 

Agreed on all points, but in my opinion, that has come and gone.
I think ailing Ford is dependent on Mazda for cash. If Mazda owned the shares, Mazda can reinvest the funds into its own operations instead of Ford siphoning it out to save itself.

 

gonna have to call ya on that one homie. you have sat in my 03 cobra with 46k miles on it and every single interior panel is in the car.

as for the noises inside, well, guess thats why you put a louder exhuast on it.


btw- i'd be glad to prove what kind of pos my slow *** mustang is to anyone that thinks of it so.

better bring your A game.

 

Yeah, but you hardly drive that thing, Tony!
Besides, you wouldn't know if anything was creaking over that screaming banshee at the end of that belt!
Your car is designed to do one thing really, really well. We don't need to drag you out to Tortilla Flats again to point that out, do we?

 

if i had left it with the stock turning stuff in it yea. just commenting on your milage deal. because 46k is still 46k.

and honestly, i do plan to try the flats again with the front sway bar on. as the car honestly felt rather good, just lacked a lot in the front roll category. lolz....