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Old 02-26-2009 | 10:07 AM
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Mazda Original Oil? o_o

I called my dealer and asked what they charge for changing oil. He told me they charge $257 for changing the oil and $157 of that was the cost of the oil. I asked then what kinda oil they use and they told me they use Mazda's own oil 5w-30.

I could do this myself but seeing the oil is that expensive, there's not that much to gain from it anyway. Now I'm wondering, what kinda oil is this and can I get it cheaper somewhere else? They also told me they take $171 for changing the transmission oil. Dunno how much of that was for oil costs.
Old 02-26-2009 | 10:22 AM
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That US dollars?

Sounds a little out-of-line......

I don't know how the Norwegian warranty reads, but here you can change your own or get it done by a garage, as long as you use the same GRADE of oil (meets the specified rating, ISO, SAE etc.) and weight of oil (5w30)

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Old 02-26-2009 | 10:31 AM
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If that is in Norwegian Kroner, then it doesn't sound too crazy. ~$38 ($23 for the oil) for oil change and $25 for transmission. Shouldn't the transmission be a little more expensive than that though?
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Ya US Dollars with today's currency. I asked him if I could buy oil myself and have them change it for me but he told me he wouldn't take any responsibility then if I bought any other oil than Mazda's recommended one. He also told me they had seen several engine failures due to usage of oil that was 'supposed' to work with the Rx-8 engine but yet failed. Sounds like bullshit to me but dunno.

To j8635621: No, in US Dollars. In Norwegian Kroners it would be 1800 Kr for Oil change, 1100 Kr of them in oil costs. 1200 Kr for changing the tranny oil.

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Old 02-26-2009 | 10:48 AM
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Ya US Dollars with today's currency. I asked him if I could buy oil myself and have them change it for me but he told me he wouldn't take any responsibility then if I bought any other oil than Mazda's recommended one. He also told me they had seen several engine failures due to usage of oil that was 'supposed' to work with the Rx-8 engine but yet failed. Sounds like bullshit to me but dunno.

To j8635621: No, in US Dollars. In Norwegian Kroners it would be 1800 Kr for Oil change, 1100 Kr of them in oil costs. 1200 Kr for changing the tranny oil.
Go to/call another dealer, thats BS. $150 + for oil, What are they charging you for the barrel of oil they ordered last week lol. Another thing you can do is call back, try and talk to the same guy and get his name and everything, then talk to the service manager and see if he says it is the same price. If he says a different price or a different dealership says a different price, I would call the better business bureau. I know its a Stealership, but WTF.
Old 02-26-2009 | 10:51 AM
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rofl. thats better than robbery.

Think of it, 20 of those oil changes can probably buy u a new engine, do u think its worth it ?
Old 02-26-2009 | 11:12 AM
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Seems a bit overprice then... Well without starting any flame or discussion, what's a safe bet for oil? Pretty cold around here... I've got as much as syntethic isn't very good, but is half-syntethic ok or should I use pure mineral oil? And is 5w-30 fine?
Old 02-26-2009 | 11:13 AM
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ALL ive EVER used on my car is castrol 5w30
Old 02-26-2009 | 11:16 AM
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Hm checked Castrol's homepage and I see they've got many different series of oil. What kinda series are you using and is it fullsyntethic?
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castrol gtx 5w30 conventional
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European governments tax the crap out of motor oils - they start around $15/litre....

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Old 02-26-2009 | 11:27 AM
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your dealership is full of THIEVES and LIARS.

royal purple 5w30 full synthetic.. ftw.
Old 02-26-2009 | 12:04 PM
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Lol just checked the bills that I got from the previous owner... They charged him $77 for the oil... That's like half of the price they gave me. $177 in total for the oil change. I'm so calling them tomorrow.
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**** that do it yourself.

use castrol gtx 5w-30 or 10w-30.

or if you want synthetic, like i run, mobil 1 full synthetic 5w-30.

it costs me less than $40 to change my own oil with full synthetic.
Old 02-26-2009 | 01:34 PM
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Castrol in Europe has many different 0w30 options (Volvo, BMW, EDGE, etc...)

I would go with a 0w30 full synthetic Castrol oil if I was in europe.

I use 0w40 Esso Extra HD synthetic here in Canada.
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I know when I was in Oslo a couple of years back EVERYTHING was really expensive. Where talking 20 bucks for a burger king combo.
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Originally Posted by SpIcEz
Castrol in Europe has many different 0w30 options (Volvo, BMW, EDGE, etc...)

I would go with a 0w30 full synthetic Castrol oil if I was in europe.

I use 0w40 Esso Extra HD synthetic here in Canada.
Isn't 0w-30 a bit overkill? 5w-30 should be decent. I see I've been running on Castrol Gtx 10w-30 this far and I think it has worked fine but I'll go down to 5w-30 most likely because of the cold.
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5W30 is fine, 0w30 is just better.

Modern synthetics can be very thin when cold yet still protect well at operating temps - why not take advantage and get the best?

A 'zero' oil is still MUCH thicker than optimum when cold, no oil is thin enough at cold startup.
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This from a country to with massive coastal oil fields and reserves....

Just do the oil change yourself...
Old 02-26-2009 | 02:33 PM
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The Gtx is a mineral based oil. I see Castrol deliver something they call Castrol Edge which is supposed to be their best oil. It's full-syntethic and is delivered in 0w-30. Is that a good choice?
Old 02-26-2009 | 02:33 PM
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Hey. I wouldn't recommend going with another oil personally. But the dealer here takes 195kr per litre. So that would be 800kr for 4 litres, so yours is one of the more expensive places.

If you are willing to buy in bigger amounts contact Turbohansen on the Mazda OGN forum. He can get you a good price on parts and oil, but only oil if you order big amounts. I just ordered 20L from him.
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But what kinda oil do they use? Is it a syntethic or what? I've been running on Castrol Gtx since I got the car because previous owner insisted on going mineral oil.
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If you want to stick with Mazda oil see the dealer and bend over.

If you just want the 'same' grade - see the Norwegian manual and go with the grades they specify.

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Old 02-26-2009 | 03:59 PM
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sooo everyone here seems to be using 5w 30.......or 10w 30........the cap on my rx8 says 5w 20......am I missing something?
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