DELLARA60

Good business MAZDA. You stand behind your products....
Just wish you did more testing of the renesis engine before you sold it to the masses.
My engine blew 46k miles?????????????? Oil and filter changed every 3k miles too. the right oil and premium fuel and never beat on................... I will hang on to my 8 because I love it but perhaps piston engineering is the only way to go.
Madza will replace without debate - good job Mazda. I will run my car to the ground since buying something new wont be in the cards for years to come the way things are going with banking and the sucking economy.
Now if Mazda and Ford would've just lent money to my local Mazda dealer that would have been great. But Mazda left the dealer high and dry.

I had my 8 towed to my local Mazda dealer in Clearwatrer FL only to be called the following morning that I had to get my key and car out of there as they folded.....What a trip this has been. Mada had my car trailered to another dealer 22 miles away....but it will be repaired.......

Way to stand behind your product.....to bad Mazda didnt stand behind their dealer and float them a few bucks during these tough times.

I8U

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It's not Mazda responsibility to bail out failing dealerships. Most dealerships that have gone under are due to **** poor management. Just be glad they are fixing your car.

jones75254

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^^Exactly, be happy ur getting taken care of and that they had your car towed. They could have just told you that they closed up shop and you had to make arrangements to get the car to another dealership and get the warranty work evaluated yourself. Your failing engine is part of a small % of 8 owners, too bad you were one of them partner. Look on the bright side, ur gettin a new engine so quit belly aching and embrace the MADNESS!

Ur just frustrated and needed to vent, its totally understandable my friend. Ur not the only one i assure you. The fact that the dealership that was to do the work had to close up shop further complicating an already shitty situation didnt help matters Keep ur head up and look at the bright side of things. In the end ur gettin a new engine and ultimately (hopefully) much more life out of this amazing machine.

636

Yup id consider a blown engine a good thing. Unless you're out of warranty. Now you have a brand new engine... But yeah...

nycgps

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Too bad that they failed. They simply dont know how to run their business.

More like a Reman. No new engine.

Sleepy-z

BTW Ford no longer has ownership in Mazda, they sold there shares back to some bank in Japan. One thing I repeatedly say to people with the rotary is its a weekend sports car, not a commuter, you can use it as one and put miles on it but dont expect it to last forever. I have 90k miles on my 1990 300zx, drive it on the weekends and thats about it, I only drive it when the drive seems perfect to take it out on so I can enjoy it. I am averaging about 4-5k miles a year on the car, its expensive and not the most reliable car on the road but I baby it and only drive it when the road looks like fun and its lasted me a long time and still looks like new.
And its both the dealers fault and the economy, now, there really shouldn't be dealers every 30 miles of the same company in my opinion anyways, its kinda crazy how close the same dealers are if you think about it and it only hurts themselves forcing cheap sales of cars due to competition locally. The best dealers will survive in the end and it will be very profitable for them down the road.

laythor

I love statements like that... on what do you base this enlightened point of view? There are tons of people here who use their 8 as a daily driver and have had no issues doing that. How many miles do these people have to put on them before you'll consider the 8 a perfectly acceptable daily driver?

getdamafiaonyou

I agree. i've but 20,000 miles on my 8 since October, runs beautifully, and only one dent, tiny little thing, you can barley notice it.

636

Lol you want track dedicated car buy a ferrari , this is perfectly good DD. If its just a rebuild ...well XD. My bro's sti got a brand new block in it when his blew under warranty. Although it did take some convincing for it...

lilring

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I DD my 8 for 2 years and never had any problems.. I have 55k miles and its still running great

neXib

I assume he bases it on his work in the reman plant

But I think the reliability problems are overrated. Sure they are there, and you can't take care of this car like you do with a diesel beast, but you shouldn't, it's a sports car. Maybe it's too cheap in the US, too accessible for all sorts of people that don't baby it enough with the right oil, oilchanges and such.

It probably doesn't help that you have the wrong oil in the US to begin with :P

ZoomZoomH

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i've been using my 8 as DD for over 4 years now, 89800 miles with original motor, if it WASN'T designed with DD in mind it wouldn't have 2 rear doors and 2 rear seats, or AC, or a trunk, or being an NA motor in the first place...

Lebren

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I don't wanna sound like a Mazda salesperson, though they are working on newer versions that should in hopes fail less frequently. The 16X is a prime example of the R&D Mazda is working on, the technology is old, but like the VCR are all made differently. Subtle differences make some last longer than others, yours (DELLARA60) was made at the end of the day on a Friday LOL

deadphoenix52

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PhillipM

^^What he said.

It's a rotary, give it hell.

Sleepy-z

Sorry guys, I was just refering to him being upset over 40-50k miles on it and it breaks down, its not designed to be a dd commuter that goes 100k miles with zero problems. You shouldn't buy a rx8 expecting the engine to last as long a a corolla or mazda 3, you bought a sports car and if you pile miles on it then you will have to deal with the rebuilds more often then a non sports car having problems. You should always do your research and know what your buying before you get your hands on the car, I knew I was going to be paying $1500+ for 60k mile services on my Z and would have to dremel the hell out of the intake manifolds to replace fuel injectors and limit my driving and bought a cheap dd so I wont have to face the problems as often.

BTW We shipped 380 rx8 rebuild engines this last month, we only built 360. They are estimating 450 per month in the summer, how we will build them....lots of OT which is fine with me. People are driving the rx8's a lot more then rx7 were driven, not to mention they sold a lot more of them apparently.

I know the engines are fine for dd, I borrow one week a month and dd it and its fine, its just risky if its your only ride unless you dont mind rentals when it needs a rebuild.

robrecht

A very, very good source says that the initial endurance testing on the Renesis predicted 200k miles reliability, but obviously that has not been realized with the early cars. Another reliable source says about 25% of the Renesis engines have failed. Do you hear any numbers like that, Sleepy? Hopefully, the problems have been sufficiently addressed in the 2009 engine improvements, but personally I would still premix.

Sleepy-z

I haven't heard any #'s for the expected lifespan, I just saw about 1000 engines that came in with mileages on them under 70k probably 90% of the time on the tech sheets. Maybe its the owners I dont know, all I heard from work at the beginning from supervisors was a manual was going 100k tops and AT was around 60k miles for the engines coming.....once again though this was based on what we got in, maybe there are owners with higher miles out there and they know how to keep it going but those are just what I saw and they found from data received from the other facility.

PSTNLSS

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Mazda is a Japense company and to the best of my knowledge. Imports are great nowadays

77mjd

$1500 for 60k service on the z? What the hell do they do to that thing?...Sorry...had to ask before I go any farther thinking about a 370.

neXib

But you service the entire US worth of rotary rebuilds under warranty don't you? Should be simple math to see the year of the engine vs. the numbers of them you get vs. how many cars sold. I am betting that's numbers you either can't see or can't tell though

Personally I guess I can handle a rebuild if it comes at the right time (only 24k km on it now), it's the other problems that may be annoying and timeconsuming. (coils, cat failing, starter, battery). Those should have been better from the start.

dshiznit1489

Good job.

ASH8

Rubbish.....it is not where you drive a rotary .....it is HOW your Drive it....

Yes you can change the oil every 3000 Miles, have it regularly serviced at a Mazda dealer and polish it's 'nipples' every week.

But if you drive one for economy or at 3000 RPM all the time, and don't red line and thrash it at least once each time you drive it (only when engine is hot), or if you only drive it for 10 minutes a day....then YES you will have an engine with a short life....

It has nothing to do where or on what day you drive your RX-8

Sleepy-z

Sorry once again, all I am saying in response to the post is if your going to dd a rx8 then be prepared to have it towed in eventually since its a rotary, YES it can handle dd'ing but it was designed to be driven hard and perform well not to sit in downtown traffic like most engines we receive. I was kinda moody yesterday lol. As for the Z costing 1500 for a 60k, you pretty much have to pull the engine out to do a timing belt which has to be done no later then 60k and parts are roughly twice the price of your average cars parts.
This is what I get to deal with in 30k miles, I say 1500 if your paying someone to do the work, its why I stopped dd'ing my z.....
http://www.conceptzperformance.com/C...24.125.164.117

kersh4w

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maybe you can treat your new engine a little better.