Is my perception of RX-8s a reality?
#51
I'll make it easy for you. You'll pay about $14,000 for this car...
Once I figured out I could afford an RX-8 (which was in my dreamcar top 5) I paid $70,000 to get a 2004 Winning blue imported from the US (because of options and colors and slightly cheaper than buying one here).
Using it I pay $400 a month for the loan which is on 40% of the car value, I fill the car up with gas that cost almost 7 dollars per gallon and I pay $1500 a year in insurance for the car. I also top it off now and then with 5W30 mineral oil that costs $70 per quart.
Is it worth it? Yes. **** everything else, buy an 8! It looks miles better than that Z. It's a drivers car, it makes you feel special every day![Smilie](https://www.rx8club.com/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Once I figured out I could afford an RX-8 (which was in my dreamcar top 5) I paid $70,000 to get a 2004 Winning blue imported from the US (because of options and colors and slightly cheaper than buying one here).
Using it I pay $400 a month for the loan which is on 40% of the car value, I fill the car up with gas that cost almost 7 dollars per gallon and I pay $1500 a year in insurance for the car. I also top it off now and then with 5W30 mineral oil that costs $70 per quart.
Is it worth it? Yes. **** everything else, buy an 8! It looks miles better than that Z. It's a drivers car, it makes you feel special every day
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#52
US dollars yes, but that's 70,000 this summer, which is different in my currency compared to now because of the financial situation in the world, with todays rates it would have been 63-65,000 I guess. But still, yes it would probably be cheaper to live in the US and drive one for a few years :P Most of those 70,000 were government taxes and such.
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US dollars yes, but that's 70,000 this summer, which is different in my currency compared to now because of the financial situation in the world, with todays rates it would have been 63-65,000 I guess. But still, yes it would probably be cheaper to live in the US and drive one for a few years :P Most of those 70,000 were government taxes and such.
DAMN!!! I was about to complain about my expensive HKS filter in another thread, until I read this!
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US dollars yes, but that's 70,000 this summer, which is different in my currency compared to now because of the financial situation in the world, with todays rates it would have been 63-65,000 I guess. But still, yes it would probably be cheaper to live in the US and drive one for a few years :P Most of those 70,000 were government taxes and such.
#58
The rest of the world can only laugh as they see the morons in this country voted for someone to implement a system like you socialists have. Let's live it up in our "gas guzzlers" while we can, for who knows how long it'll be before we have a tax structure which'll take away virtually all our freedom in the name of helping others.
Also, some people are kind of trying to save the planet
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#59
Well, there are times when you appreciate it, like when your mother gets a brain tumour. That operation would cost $130,000 if we were to pay it, and we don't need any insurance for that in my country. There's a reason why UN voted us the top country to live in. But that also invites in leechers.
It's a sad situation, universal healthcare, and one I hope doesn't come to fruition in this country, especially with this new administration. I shudder to think that for anyone with any kind of goals or ambition- and willing to work hard to achieve something- turning the U.S. into a system mirroring your country is an absolute nightmare (no offense intended).
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It's a sad situation, universal healthcare, and one I hope doesn't come to fruition in this country, especially with this new administration. I shudder to think that for anyone with any kind of goals or ambition- and willing to work hard to achieve something- turning the U.S. into a system mirroring your country is an absolute nightmare (no offense intended).
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#61
As for a turn even more to the left necessary, do we need more morons like these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMIfannqg
How about Bill Clinton basically acknowledging the "scam" that effectively began under his administration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTxT4jrIak
Bush's fault? Learn the facts, kid
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thinking of getting an 8 now and definitely will be my next car after reading this thread, just have to get rid of my current car first and find a good deal. I saw an 06 shinka with 12k miles for $16.5k but it sold already. i really wanted it but finding a buyer for my car is taking time.
my grandpa had an 84 rx-7 that i used to think was the sweetest thing ever when i was little. he taught me about rotary engines but it was over my head at the time, now i can't get enough.
my grandpa had an 84 rx-7 that i used to think was the sweetest thing ever when i was little. he taught me about rotary engines but it was over my head at the time, now i can't get enough.
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i'd love it for the usa to be like scandinavian countries. they are incredibly egalitarian when it comes to gender. (maybe even leaning towards sexist towards guys afaik!)
except paying 70k for an rx8. for that i'd buy a porsche cayman s.
anyone know how much a porsche cayman s is in norway?
except paying 70k for an rx8. for that i'd buy a porsche cayman s.
anyone know how much a porsche cayman s is in norway?
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i'd love it for the usa to be like scandinavian countries. they are incredibly egalitarian when it comes to gender. (maybe even leaning towards sexist towards guys afaik!)
except paying 70k for an rx8. for that i'd buy a porsche cayman s.
anyone know how much a porsche cayman s is in norway?
except paying 70k for an rx8. for that i'd buy a porsche cayman s.
anyone know how much a porsche cayman s is in norway?
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It's a good car, but a lot of people don't know much about it, hence the bad reputation. They take the worst stories they have heard of RX7s and RX8s and repeat them on message boards as truth. The only thing I've had trouble with in my car is some of the plastic bits in the interior breaking which were replaced under warranty right away.
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Hey guys, I'm currently car shopping and the RX-8 seems to fit my criteria. Although I did some research and it sounds like a lot of people are having issues with the engine "flooding", I believe that it's a misconception and it really has to do with the ignition? Is it really a big problem with these cars? Is everyone encountering this issue? If this car is gonna stall out on me and I'm gonna have to call a tow truck every other day, then I will have to take the RX-8 off the list of potential cars I'd like to consider. Honestly, is this a car I can just hop in and go, or do I need to take extra precaution every time I drive this thing? There are so many good deals out there, and it almost seems like the RX-8 could be a good bang for the buck.
Basically, I want to know if these cars are as troublesome as some of the people on here make it out to be. Thanks guys
-Jimmy
Basically, I want to know if these cars are as troublesome as some of the people on here make it out to be. Thanks guys
-Jimmy
A lot of people who don't know what they're talking about bash the RX8, the rotary has only a handful of moving parts and a lot less to go wrong than a reciprocating engine... unfortunately the 3rd generation RX7 had an insufficient cooling system which resulted in a lot of problems and I think that reputation has bled over to the RX8 even though it doesn't have those problems... it seems to me that it's a fear of the unknown, people don't really know about rotories so they just assume the worst... just check the oil every other time you fill up on gas, change the oil every 7,500 miles as recommended, and you'll have many many miles of exciting, fun, and reliable driving. Oh, and Mazda has estimated the life expectancy of the current motor to be around 300,000 miles...
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In reality, the average FD engine expectancy for a stock setup was 50-75k miles, and honestly many rx8s are not even making it that long.
For a different reason, though.
change the oil every 7,500 miles as recommended,
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7500? F- that. Try 2500-3000. Recommendations be damned, trust me on this one. If you follow mazda's recommendation of 5-20 for 7500 miles at a time, you will have a rough looking engine when it has to come apart. That sounds like rotary suicide to me, and I am a rotary engine builder.
Oh, and Mazda has estimated the life expectancy of the current motor to be around 300,000 miles...
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would 7500 mile oil changes be considered poor maintenance? other than topping off oil once between (standard 3k mile) oil changes, and changing the oil, what other maintenance would you say contributes to the demise of an engine with say, 30k miles on it?
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While there are definitely engines failing earlier than they should, the 100k mile warranty does help provide a bit of a safety net for most RX8 owners. In addition running a higher viscosity oil with additional injection and/or pre-mixing seems to help longevity significantly as well. With the stock NA setup for the RX8, the cooling system does not seem to be the weak link from what I understand. Insufficient oil injection especially in the center of the apex seals which was supposedly addressed by the new injectors on the '09 models is blamed for a lot of the troubles.
Not every (or even most) engines that fail are due to improper maintenance, but the bulk at least anecdotally seem to be '04 models and AT versions moreso than the MT versions. Here's hoping my engine is going to be running for a nice long time, even once I start force feeding air into it. Otherwise you are going to be hearing from me RotaryResurrection for a rebuild with ceramic apex seals. :P
Not every (or even most) engines that fail are due to improper maintenance, but the bulk at least anecdotally seem to be '04 models and AT versions moreso than the MT versions. Here's hoping my engine is going to be running for a nice long time, even once I start force feeding air into it. Otherwise you are going to be hearing from me RotaryResurrection for a rebuild with ceramic apex seals. :P