My Rx8 Is Slow
12-16-2004 | 03:12 PM
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forum age has nothing to do with trolling..
I could go make a user account on some neon forum and wait a year and make some lame comment.. and because I've been a member for a year that suddenly isnt trolling?
Give me a break.
I could go make a user account on some neon forum and wait a year and make some lame comment.. and because I've been a member for a year that suddenly isnt trolling?
Give me a break.
12-16-2004 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by w0rm
forum age has nothing to do with trolling..
I could go make a user account on some neon forum and wait a year and make some lame comment.. and because I've been a member for a year that suddenly isnt trolling?
Give me a break.
I could go make a user account on some neon forum and wait a year and make some lame comment.. and because I've been a member for a year that suddenly isnt trolling?
Give me a break.
12-16-2004 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Deca Auto
I think you have problems going up hills cause you have no torque.
12-16-2004 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Deca Auto
Heh i'm a troll even though I've been here way longer than you. You have the worst attitude in this forum.
you have like 40 total posts, didnt post anything during a 6 month span, and you call out others as being trolls????
shaolin posts regularly and insightfully, time spent here has nothing to do with it.
12-16-2004 | 08:33 PM
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Relax guys. Stew if you lived in California I would take up your offer, and I never accused anyone of being a troll. Admin pls take out all the post after I started. All the bickering is really stupid.
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12-16-2004 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by GSXRSTAR
I hear everyone talking about how they can "chirp" their tires in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gear. I however have a hard time getting mine to chirp in 2nd most of the time. I have the stage 2 map and the CZ and no other mods. The CZ def. made a difference from 6500 to redline. but overall it just seems sluggish. wait, I don't want to say sluggish as in slow...just sluggish as in there is no way I'm making 200 hp.... A couple of times recently I have had a hard time getting up a big hill early in the morning when it was cold near my house. The engine seems to bog down @ about 4k... If i down shift and get the RPMs up it runs fine. Again this is only in the morning when it's cold outside. Anyone have any idea's? Thanks
12-17-2004 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Me
I think you have problems going up hills cause you have no torque.
Originally Posted by Me
I wonder how many RX8 owners actually race/drift/track their cars. If you do you would know your cars aren't fast, they're very slow. Mazda wanted to build a dynamically new looking car, and the size of the rotary accomplished that. Mazda also builds the most balanced cars, and the RX8 is undoubtedly the most balanced car out right now (thanks to 13b). Thats why its a favorite for drifting or tracking. But if you actually raced your car you would know its slow. Stop magazine/internet racing, and face the fact that you car is slow. Anyone can go 70 on an offramp, I can do that in my Hyundai.
Originally Posted by shaolin
Wow the troll to end all trolls. Get out of here moron, this entire statement is full of fallacies it's ridiculous. That's like saying the lotus elise, although the most balanced car on the road, is slow because it has no power and no torque. Granted the lotus is alot better than an 8 for the track, it's an equally retarded comment.
Originally Posted by shaolin
Then you go on to say that the engine allowed for a "dynamically new looking car." WTF kind of logic is this? The engine has absolutely nothing to do with the styling or "look" of a car.
"The compactness of the Renesis rotary engine allowed Mazda to give the car a sleek, low nose and trim body line, which carries throughout the entire length of the vehicle. The fenders, when seen with the car's sloping nose and steeply raked windshield, make the RX-8 appear to be in perpetual motion even when sitting still." -Sam Mitani
Originally Posted by shaolin
Then you contradict yourself in saying the car is the most balanced on the road, and that's why it's a favorite for "drifting or tracking," and go on to say that if we actually "raced" our cars we'd know they're slow. I think you're slow. In the head Hyundai man. That statement makes absoutely no sense. If they were a favorite, why would they be slow around a track? Tell you what Top Gear got 1 minute 31.8 seconds around their track in not only the RX-8, but also in the M3. Guess that's a slow car too eh smart guy?
Just remember that no matter what car and how fast it is, there's something else out there, that when put into context against your car will make you look like you're slow too. Even Viper's have been humbled.
Come back when you've grown a brain.
Just remember that no matter what car and how fast it is, there's something else out there, that when put into context against your car will make you look like you're slow too. Even Viper's have been humbled.
Come back when you've grown a brain.
Many of you interpret me as a troll because of my "fallacies" about the RX8. I love the RX8 and think its one of the funnest cars ever made. My only discrepancy is I believe it is underpowered. If it had as much power as its predecessor it would be one of the best cars ever made (power, looks, interior, handling). I'm sorry if you all think otherwise but I believe I am entitled to my opinions and shouldn't be met with such hostility. And I drive a Lancer Evolution (300whp), so stop calling me "Hyundai man" (it was a joke).
12-17-2004 | 05:40 AM
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Hyundai man, I will try to stay respectful so here it goes.
I just recently aquired a video on the rx-8 which contains very detail and in dept review of the rx-8, and also tried to find the potential of the rx-8. The car, along with several others, was tested by several professional drivers through several conditions, the rx-8's banking capabilty at high speeds, and a slalom test at 170KPh, the car banked excellently at the speed limter, and going through the slalom's the rx-8 didn't under or oversteer, the car handled great there the slalom, even the the review slalomed the car on the bank. It was comparable to a skyline gt, it out performed the BMW 330I in the slaloms. In the tests the rx-8 was the second funnest car to drive, the S2000 came in first because of its lighter weight. On the track with the WRX, intergra type R, s2000, and skyline gt, and the miata, the rx-8 did come in 5th. The rx-8 could corner faster than the WRX, and could corner about the same as the s2000, the skyline could out corner it (I personly think it is because of the reputation the skyline has to uphold). The most intersting was the "real world" test. That is were the car showed it strong points.
I think of it this way, Mazda engineers had to make a compromize. Make a track car, or make a street car. To me Mazda made a street car with the the capability of going on the track (with fun on the mind). Track are flat and smooth, streets are rough and bumpy, and the suspention was made to handle that, to me the suspention is what truely sets the rx-8 apart. On the street test the pro driver was able to push the rx-8 a little harder then the rx-7 because the 7's suspention was to hard and didn't have enough travel.
I think the rx-8 is a sports car with performence on the street being the theme of this car. For me it I will probly never get a rx-8 on the track because I don't know of any in utah, but I do have the salt flats :-D and with the rx-8 i am eligable to join the 130MPH club. The rx-8's engine, to me is amazing. I'm a long time rotary lover, but only getting my first tastes of it. It maybe underpowered to some but to me it is perfect for the rx-8. I also think the RX-8 wasn't intended to replace the rx-7 but sit alone side with it and the engine in the rx-8 shows that, but to call it underpowered and under torqued is wrong in my book, it enought if not just right for that car.
Its not a miata and its not a rx-7, its a rx-8.
I just recently aquired a video on the rx-8 which contains very detail and in dept review of the rx-8, and also tried to find the potential of the rx-8. The car, along with several others, was tested by several professional drivers through several conditions, the rx-8's banking capabilty at high speeds, and a slalom test at 170KPh, the car banked excellently at the speed limter, and going through the slalom's the rx-8 didn't under or oversteer, the car handled great there the slalom, even the the review slalomed the car on the bank. It was comparable to a skyline gt, it out performed the BMW 330I in the slaloms. In the tests the rx-8 was the second funnest car to drive, the S2000 came in first because of its lighter weight. On the track with the WRX, intergra type R, s2000, and skyline gt, and the miata, the rx-8 did come in 5th. The rx-8 could corner faster than the WRX, and could corner about the same as the s2000, the skyline could out corner it (I personly think it is because of the reputation the skyline has to uphold). The most intersting was the "real world" test. That is were the car showed it strong points.
I think of it this way, Mazda engineers had to make a compromize. Make a track car, or make a street car. To me Mazda made a street car with the the capability of going on the track (with fun on the mind). Track are flat and smooth, streets are rough and bumpy, and the suspention was made to handle that, to me the suspention is what truely sets the rx-8 apart. On the street test the pro driver was able to push the rx-8 a little harder then the rx-7 because the 7's suspention was to hard and didn't have enough travel.
I think the rx-8 is a sports car with performence on the street being the theme of this car. For me it I will probly never get a rx-8 on the track because I don't know of any in utah, but I do have the salt flats :-D and with the rx-8 i am eligable to join the 130MPH club. The rx-8's engine, to me is amazing. I'm a long time rotary lover, but only getting my first tastes of it. It maybe underpowered to some but to me it is perfect for the rx-8. I also think the RX-8 wasn't intended to replace the rx-7 but sit alone side with it and the engine in the rx-8 shows that, but to call it underpowered and under torqued is wrong in my book, it enought if not just right for that car.
Its not a miata and its not a rx-7, its a rx-8.
12-17-2004 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Chevy
Hyundai man, I will try to stay respectful so here it goes.
I just recently aquired a video on the rx-8 which contains very detail and in dept review of the rx-8, and also tried to find the potential of the rx-8. The car, along with several others, was tested by several professional drivers through several conditions, the rx-8's banking capabilty at high speeds, and a slalom test at 170KPh, the car banked excellently at the speed limter, and going through the slalom's the rx-8 didn't under or oversteer, the car handled great there the slalom, even the the review slalomed the car on the bank. It was comparable to a skyline gt, it out performed the BMW 330I in the slaloms. In the tests the rx-8 was the second funnest car to drive, the S2000 came in first because of its lighter weight. On the track with the WRX, intergra type R, s2000, and skyline gt, and the miata, the rx-8 did come in 5th. The rx-8 could corner faster than the WRX, and could corner about the same as the s2000, the skyline could out corner it (I personly think it is because of the reputation the skyline has to uphold). The most intersting was the "real world" test. That is were the car showed it strong points.
I think of it this way, Mazda engineers had to make a compromize. Make a track car, or make a street car. To me Mazda made a street car with the the capability of going on the track (with fun on the mind). Track are flat and smooth, streets are rough and bumpy, and the suspention was made to handle that, to me the suspention is what truely sets the rx-8 apart. On the street test the pro driver was able to push the rx-8 a little harder then the rx-7 because the 7's suspention was to hard and didn't have enough travel.
I think the rx-8 is a sports car with performence on the street being the theme of this car. For me it I will probly never get a rx-8 on the track because I don't know of any in utah, but I do have the salt flats :-D and with the rx-8 i am eligable to join the 130MPH club. The rx-8's engine, to me is amazing. I'm a long time rotary lover, but only getting my first tastes of it. It maybe underpowered to some but to me it is perfect for the rx-8. I also think the RX-8 wasn't intended to replace the rx-7 but sit alone side with it and the engine in the rx-8 shows that, but to call it underpowered and under torqued is wrong in my book, it enought if not just right for that car.
Its not a miata and its not a rx-7, its a rx-8.
I just recently aquired a video on the rx-8 which contains very detail and in dept review of the rx-8, and also tried to find the potential of the rx-8. The car, along with several others, was tested by several professional drivers through several conditions, the rx-8's banking capabilty at high speeds, and a slalom test at 170KPh, the car banked excellently at the speed limter, and going through the slalom's the rx-8 didn't under or oversteer, the car handled great there the slalom, even the the review slalomed the car on the bank. It was comparable to a skyline gt, it out performed the BMW 330I in the slaloms. In the tests the rx-8 was the second funnest car to drive, the S2000 came in first because of its lighter weight. On the track with the WRX, intergra type R, s2000, and skyline gt, and the miata, the rx-8 did come in 5th. The rx-8 could corner faster than the WRX, and could corner about the same as the s2000, the skyline could out corner it (I personly think it is because of the reputation the skyline has to uphold). The most intersting was the "real world" test. That is were the car showed it strong points.
I think of it this way, Mazda engineers had to make a compromize. Make a track car, or make a street car. To me Mazda made a street car with the the capability of going on the track (with fun on the mind). Track are flat and smooth, streets are rough and bumpy, and the suspention was made to handle that, to me the suspention is what truely sets the rx-8 apart. On the street test the pro driver was able to push the rx-8 a little harder then the rx-7 because the 7's suspention was to hard and didn't have enough travel.
I think the rx-8 is a sports car with performence on the street being the theme of this car. For me it I will probly never get a rx-8 on the track because I don't know of any in utah, but I do have the salt flats :-D and with the rx-8 i am eligable to join the 130MPH club. The rx-8's engine, to me is amazing. I'm a long time rotary lover, but only getting my first tastes of it. It maybe underpowered to some but to me it is perfect for the rx-8. I also think the RX-8 wasn't intended to replace the rx-7 but sit alone side with it and the engine in the rx-8 shows that, but to call it underpowered and under torqued is wrong in my book, it enought if not just right for that car.
Its not a miata and its not a rx-7, its a rx-8.
12-17-2004 | 03:06 PM
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Since you seem to have seem the video, you would also know they never once used the term underpowered. This car isn't underpowered as the motor fits this car, and it suspention very well, driving in a straight line isn't difficult, but try to take a corner as fast as you can does. Hyundai man just because I don't like WRX STI's doesn't mean I go to a STI forum and start agruing with them the rx-8 is a much better car, or like you, start attacking the car on their forum. That is immature just like what you did, or have been doing has been immature. We like the rx-8, and it obvious you don't so please just leave us alone you haven't contributed anything, and all you did was **** people off. Don't come to are forums and tell us our car sucks, or do you want me to start pointing out everything wrong with the your evo.
As back to the original topic, Its hard to tell if something is wrong, and what is wrong when you can't feel the car yourself, but I think something could be wrong. Maybe a bad setting in the canzoomer? Maybe the coils, I agree with what others have said, start by disabling the canzoomer, run some test, reenable the canzoomer and run some tests. The cat is also a big possability like others have said. Now that I think of it the cat seem like the problem to me, as the car still seems to run fine, but just lacks power. I from what I have read about canzoomer stage 2, a cat problem seems to make the most sence.
As back to the original topic, Its hard to tell if something is wrong, and what is wrong when you can't feel the car yourself, but I think something could be wrong. Maybe a bad setting in the canzoomer? Maybe the coils, I agree with what others have said, start by disabling the canzoomer, run some test, reenable the canzoomer and run some tests. The cat is also a big possability like others have said. Now that I think of it the cat seem like the problem to me, as the car still seems to run fine, but just lacks power. I from what I have read about canzoomer stage 2, a cat problem seems to make the most sence.
12-17-2004 | 03:16 PM
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I think 99% of people who think the RX-8 is slow simply dont know how to drive it. People like you need the extra power so you can just press on the gas and go. The RX-8 takes a little more work, but it is definitely very fast. Learn to drive the rotary, and you'll realize this.
Originally Posted by Deca Auto
Heh your actually right in your sense. The real reason behind why the rx8 does the slalom and particular tracks so fast is because it is underpowered. It was noted by the drivers that they were able to push the car to its limits without having to worry about scary oversteer. But frankly I can't live without the juice. Taking a corner is one thing, but exiting into a straightaway is another.
12-17-2004 | 03:26 PM
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no they are all correct the RX-8 is the slowest car produced by a Japanese Auto maker in the last 50 years. its fairly obvious, i dont understand why everyone of the @100,000 owners worldwide doesnt understand this. now that the truth is out we can all go own with our misreable lives which are only miserable because our car only wins every category in every test done by automotive magazines EXCEPT the straightline acceleration. without that we are nothing as the owners (or even people who dont own a car) know already. end of discussion case closed time to move on.
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