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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:32 PM
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Need help, low RPM idling and stalling

Need a bit of help. Just got my car back from the body shop today (been there for over a week) and every now and then when idling the RPMS drop below 500 and the vehicle stalls. Doesn't happen every time, but stalled out 4 - 5 times on the way home. When it's not stalling, the RPMs are jumping around from 500 - 1000 and back down again.

It's never done this before. Most body shops are really dirty inside....any possibility it could be the air filter clogged? Any ideas?

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Old 08-25-2008 | 08:39 PM
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I would bring it to the dealer and ask them to perform the recall check on your motor. As an '04 owner you may need your engine replaced. Or you may just need new ignition coils. The coils are cheap, a common problem and easy to replace but not under warranty. The engine is expensive, a common problem, a long to replace, but covered under the extended powertrain warranty.
Old 08-25-2008 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
I would bring it to the dealer and ask them to perform the recall check on your motor. As an '04 owner you may need your engine replaced. Or you may just need new ignition coils. The coils are cheap, a common problem and easy to replace but not under warranty. The engine is expensive, a common problem, a long to replace, but covered under the extended powertrain warranty.
You really think it could be an engine issue?? God I hope not. The engine is running very strong, no issues when the vehicle is moving.....

Replacing the engine even with the new powertrain warranty will still cost $3000. I hope not!
Old 08-25-2008 | 08:43 PM
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It will not cost you a thing. The extended warranty is FOR the engine 8yr/100K miles. Same thing happened to me. if I were you I would HOPE for a new engine.
Old 08-25-2008 | 08:47 PM
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They more than likely flooded your car...and also disconnected the battery...so the car will have to re-learn the idle.

I would re-set the ECU and KAM and give it a drive cycle or two to settle.

Then take it out and drive it hard to burn off the crap on the plugs and stuff
Old 08-25-2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dannobre
They more than likely flooded your car...and also disconnected the battery...so the car will have to re-learn the idle.

I would re-set the ECU and KAM and give it a drive cycle or two to settle.

Then take it out and drive it hard to burn off the crap on the plugs and stuff
Ah, this makes sense.....how do I reset the ECU? I don't even know what the KAM is.....

They did disconnect my battery. Also, my car just sat there for 8 days.

Thanks!
Old 08-25-2008 | 09:54 PM
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Good call Dan. Hopefully that works out for you.

If not...
Here's to hoping for a new engine.
Old 08-25-2008 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by shaunv74
Good call Dan. Hopefully that works out for you.

If not...
Here's to hoping for a new engine.
lol, if it doesn't cost me anything, then I agree.......

Thanks for the help!
Old 08-25-2008 | 10:07 PM
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Yep I vote they disconnected the battery.

Now the ECU has to re-learn.

Just drive it a few cycles over two days.
Old 08-26-2008 | 05:38 AM
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Agree with reseting the ecu first, also look under the hood and see if they maybe messed up with plugging something in, not sure where your damage was but my wife got her car back from a body shop and I popped the hood to find a cooling fan was not plugged in once.
BTW rough idle/stalling is on the list of a motor failing, not to scare you but it is a possibility.
Old 08-26-2008 | 01:32 PM
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Ill put money on your motor is going to ****... Get a new one, thats whay mine started doin then a few months later wouldnt even start, seal when out.. go get a compression test done
Old 08-26-2008 | 01:47 PM
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Drive it for a couple days to verify it's not the battery issue. If it is continuing, than take it to the dealer for further diagnostics.
Old 08-26-2008 | 05:33 PM
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i experienced similar issues when my battery died. i replaced the battery and after that when i would come to a stop that car would drop revs and die. i spoke with my mazda service rep and she advised me that it may have something to do with the on board computer.

so i took the car into the dealership and after running several diagnostics, they recognized the problem but could not figure out why it was doing it. they re flashed the ecu and ever since then i have not had any issue at idle. if you dont want to take it to the dealership, try resetting the computer by doing the brake trick.

best of luck..
Old 01-29-2009 | 03:35 PM
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how do I reset the ECU with the brake trick?
Old 01-29-2009 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-8Passion
how do I reset the ECU with the brake trick?
https://www.rx8club.com/series-i-tech-garage-22/ecu-clear-reset-27548/

the stickys are your friend. you might take the time to look at the tops of each section of the forum.

you might be amazed at what you find.

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Old 01-29-2009 | 05:47 PM
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turn key on and press brake 20 times but actuallly just do it till water temp gauge speeps!
Old 01-29-2009 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
That would take forever.
and a day..

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Old 01-30-2009 | 05:51 AM
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To start I would ask you what did they do at the body shop? If they had to repair anything do to with the engine....even the exhaust realize they are not mecxhanics and they may have left something unpluged or broken. But low idle/stalling is a engine replace symptom fyi, thats a last resort though.
Old 01-30-2009 | 10:43 AM
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My car did that last summer, I popped my hood and pushed on all the ignition wires and problem solved.

BTW, hows your fuel level? Coils?

Check the obvious before assuming your engine is failing. Ive been certain my car needed a new engine over a dozen times by now and everytime is something ignition related, or the cat.

Check in this order:
Battery
Wires
Coils
Plugs
Compression Test.
Old 01-30-2009 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Charles R. Hill
Don't forget to check your MAF sensor connection, too.
Yes, I forgot to mention that
Old 01-31-2009 | 05:12 AM
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https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discussion-3/slightly-rough-idle-165704/
Old 01-31-2009 | 09:15 AM
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oh yeah i forgot that resetting the ECU took so long haha...nevermind scratch that
Old 01-31-2009 | 09:31 AM
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had same issues. now getting my engine replaced. i have an '04 as well with 47K

before they replaced my engine....they changed plugs,coils,throttle body clean out, fuel injector service etc. what a rip off
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