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Old 03-07-2009 | 12:02 PM
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AT & neutral

So the owners manual says you shouldn't ever shift into neutral when driving. Which makes sense to me, I don't know why I'd ever need it. But then why do they have it so easily accessible from the drive position? The other day, I forgot I wasn't in manual mode (to the left) and I went to drop into 3rd and I felt a forward force realizing that I shifted into neutral by accident! Do you guys think I hurt anything? Ugh, I'm just glad it wasn't reverse
Old 03-07-2009 | 12:16 PM
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Do you guys think I hurt anything?
Neutral for a short time at speed will not hurt anything.
Old 03-07-2009 | 12:20 PM
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Neutral for a short time at speed will not hurt anything.
thanks, and dude you better post again, your post count just hit an evil number
Old 03-07-2009 | 12:21 PM
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thanks, and dude you better post again, your post count just hit an evil number
Hahaha. This post will fix it.
Old 03-07-2009 | 01:11 PM
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Get a manual my man, neutral solved.
Old 03-07-2009 | 04:02 PM
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Old 03-08-2009 | 07:11 PM
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i don't see how it would hurt anything in the first place.

i've heard that our trannies are very strong.
Old 03-08-2009 | 07:40 PM
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No problem for the trans for a short period of time.
Old 03-08-2009 | 08:47 PM
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The part about not shifting into neutral when driving is about people "coasting" in neutral (which is illegal in a lot of states) and not about damaging something, well, unless you had it under load it would hit the rev limiter. Also, neutral is easy to get to so if something happened and your throttle got locked up, you just bump it into neutral to remove power from the drivetrain.
Old 03-08-2009 | 11:10 PM
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Whether you can damage the transmission by coasting in neutral depends on whether the transmission's pump is pumping enough in that mode - sort of like the question of whether you can push start a car with an automatic. I also suspect that putting it back into gear at speed is not going to be very good for it unless you rev match.

In the US, neutral is required by law to be next to drive, separating it from reverse. The PRNDL rule, which was one of the dozen or so items GSA specified back in 1965 or 1966. Those specs were the birth of federal government safety rules for cars.

Before that, some cars had PNDLR shift patterns. That led to some amusing accidental reverse accidents. PRNDL puts a buffer between forward and reverse. If you think accidentally shifting into neutral is annoying, try accidentally shifting into reverse at highway speeds.

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Old 03-08-2009 | 11:14 PM
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I bet you nothing happened

Some people posted that they did that by accident on the mazda6 forum and nothing happened...
Old 03-08-2009 | 11:21 PM
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Also, on the reverse thing.

They did a MythBusters about that. It basically does no damage to the car (this was tested on a 90 something Taurus, which has a fraction of the sophistaction of our 8). I think he said the "engine light" came on, but it went away after he restarted.

By no means is it GOOD for your tranny, but I don't think it would be cataclysmic to your car.
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It basically does no damage to the car (this was tested on a 90 something Taurus
If they damaged a Taurus, how could they tell that something was wrong?

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Old 03-08-2009 | 11:47 PM
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^^

Good point.

It probably just made the power steering whine abit louder.. Gya ha ha
Old 03-09-2009 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ken-x8
Whether you can damage the transmission by coasting in neutral depends on whether the transmission's pump is pumping enough in that mode - sort of like the question of whether you can push start a car with an automatic. I also suspect that putting it back into gear at speed is not going to be very good for it unless you rev match.

In the US, neutral is required by law to be next to drive, separating it from reverse. The PRNDL rule, which was one of the dozen or so items GSA specified back in 1965 or 1966. Those specs were the birth of federal government safety rules for cars.

Before that, some cars had PNDLR shift patterns. That led to some amusing accidental reverse accidents. PRNDL puts a buffer between forward and reverse. If you think accidentally shifting into neutral is annoying, try accidentally shifting into reverse at highway speeds.

Ken
nice.. thanks for the info. I wasn't aware of that. Yea I had it out of gear for no more than 500 ms. I immediately put it into third and it did just fine. I was just concerned about the manual but you guys have explained all that now
Old 03-09-2009 | 03:08 PM
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btw, or for ford atleast, on automatics, reverse won't go in unless doing about 15 mph or less, other wise car will treat it as in drive, untill slowed down, then it will be forced into reverse
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