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Old 03-01-2009 | 08:45 AM
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Well, okay, my next question is what is the difference between HID and xenon?
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Xenon is a gas. It is what's in most HID bulbs. Forum rules won't allow me to link you their site on eBay but do a google search for hid4u and it will be the first search response.

Remember when placing you order since these are universal kits you need to know your bulb type and color you want. You want H7 bulbs in 6000K color. This kit comes with a 2 yr warranty on the ballast and a lifetime warranty on the bulbs themselves.
Old 03-01-2009 | 10:38 AM
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It looks nice. Are there any DIY on installing one of these kits?
Old 03-01-2009 | 10:40 AM
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I found him, he is selling "replacement kits" is this the same thing as a conversion kit?

And will the HIDs mount in the regular headlight fitting? because the bulbs are different? I assume they will.
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Give an update if you decide trying out HID4U's kit. Wanna know if I should order it aswell.
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dude, just get a HID conversion kit, it draws less power, much more reliable than halogen bulbs, cost less than $100, and if you buy from a reputable vendor, they usually give you lifetime warranty on the kit!

with the low price and high quality of HID conversion kits nowadays, going with these overwattage (100w!? you insane??) halogen bulbs just don't make sense.

HI..my H7su just die as well..
since you guys seems to know much more about HID ...hope you guys can help me out.

there are all those numbers (2300K, 4300k and so on as you see at the bottom of the webpage) http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?...on=Custom&ID=5

it says that there are color temperature and "The truth is that the higher the color temperature, the less light output from the HID bulb"....

i just wanna know if that true, cause a guy at the Mazda dealer told me that high temperature will melt the wire and the light and will void my warranty.

Does the color temperature really matter?

also...how do you guys find the right people for the HID conversion kit installation. the dealer won't install it for me...and how much does the mechanics charge you for installation?

thanks a lot
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Color temperature is a totally different term than the temperature that will melt your wires.

Generally, the warmer the color is, the closer to the color of the sun's light and the cooler a temperature is the closer to ultraviolet. This is measured by Kelvins and the scale of Kelvins will run from 3000K to 12000K plus or minus a few Kelvins.

What color do you want? A good white that is neutral would be 4000K, a bluish purple would be 10,000K

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Originally Posted by Lebren
Color temperature is a totally different term than the temperature that will melt your wires.

Generally, the warmer the color is, the closer to the color of the sun's light and the cooler a temperature is the closer to ultraviolet. This is measured by Kelvins and the scale of Kelvins will run from 3000K to 12000K plus or minus a few Kelvins.

What color do you want? A good white that is neutral would be 4000K, a bluish purple would be 10,000K
I think i will pick 4300k or 6000k for the color.

If i would to get a kit from ebay, how do i know if the HID conversion kit and the bulb will melt my wire or not?

Any suggestion?

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You won't know before you try but some other guy on this forum installed the ebay kit without any problems.
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A bunch of people have installed ebay kits without issues, I being one of them. I have had an ebay kit installed for well over a year now and have not melted or burned out my wires or bulbs.
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Originally Posted by I8U
A bunch of people have installed ebay kits without issues, I being one of them. I have had an ebay kit installed for well over a year now and have not melted or burned out my wires or bulbs.
HI..did you installed them yourself?
how do you find the right place for installation?

I got a friend who had a Mazda 3 and installed a hid conversion kit at this one shop..
should i just go there? not sure if installing on a rx8 is same as on a 3.

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I installed a pair of HID lights on my old 240SX KA24DET with no problems, they were purchased from ebay also. The only thing that bugged me was the flicker once they completely warmed up. each light would "blink" once, drove me bananas! They're not hella or Bosch quality that's for sure even if they say they're the same quality.

The HID's require about half the wattage as standard halogen bulbs meaning they will produce much LESS heat than the halogens will. think 35W vs 55W, it's almost half, remember more watts = more heat.

You can install HID's yourself, make sure to mount the ballasts in a safe and dry location (where moisture does not usually penetrate through the firewall.) Then carefully install the bulbs, wear rubber gloves if you have them or just try to avoid touching the glass as the oils in your skin is a bad thing for bulbs. Just trust me on that one.

Installing on the 8 will be different than m3, just take your time and make sure you get the right size bulb............. my manual here says Halogens come with (low beam only) H7 bulbs, so replace with this size bulb KIT. If this still doesn't give you enough confidence to install the HID kit yourself and save money then just have your local hook-up shop do it. I know you can do it yourself!
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Does anyone know what is the difference between 35W and 55W?

55W brighter than the 35W? or the temperature between them?

is it safer to use 35W rather than 55W to reduce the chance of melting the wire or even caught on fire?

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these are wattages. 35W represents 35 watts. if you buy a light bulb for your house it also has these ratings, depending on the type of bulb you buy, in a room you want a lot of light you may install 60 watt bulbs but in a room you want just a little bit of light it makes sense to use a less intense bulb, a 35W bulb for example.

So, now we have defined the wattage. A halogen bulb is a different type of bulb than an HID bulb. HID uses "more for less" it is more efficient than a Halogen bulb your base model RX8 came with. for 35W or 35 watts, it does the same thing a 55w or 55 Watt Halogen bulb would do.

As I mentioned and you may or may not have read in my previous post more watts = more heat so, just do the math, 35<55
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Originally Posted by Lebren
these are wattages. 35W represents 35 watts. if you buy a light bulb for your house it also has these ratings, depending on the type of bulb you buy, in a room you want a lot of light you may install 60 watt bulbs but in a room you want just a little bit of light it makes sense to use a less intense bulb, a 35W bulb for example.

So, now we have defined the wattage. A halogen bulb is a different type of bulb than an HID bulb. HID uses "more for less" it is more efficient than a Halogen bulb your base model RX8 came with. for 35W or 35 watts, it does the same thing a 55w or 55 Watt Halogen bulb would do.

As I mentioned and you may or may not have read in my previous post more watts = more heat so, just do the math, 35<55
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cool, hope i wasn't talking too "geeky" Remember to specify H7 when asked the bulb size!
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Originally Posted by Lebren
cool, hope i wasn't talking too "geeky" Remember to specify H7 when asked the bulb size!
Thanks again.

Also, i found something on craigslist said something about "Plug & Play" for HID.

what does that mean? does it mean that i don't need any kinda installation?
and will those "plug & play" kit fit my 2005 base RX8?

Thanks
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What are your thoughts about replacing the High Beams with HID lights. I wounder if the start up time would make them not the best choice?
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What are your thoughts about replacing the High Beams with HID lights. I wounder if the start up time would make them not the best choice?
Ive been wanting to know the samething.. I would like to **** **** off the people who flash thier lights at me for having HIDs, so I would like to show them a even brighter light
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What an awesome thread this is..

Reading through it, I think I'll go with what you guys said, the 6k HID white lamps. Lebren, the manual for the 8 calls for a H7 bulb? I'm gonna go google up HID4U to see what he has
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Ive been wanting to know the samething.. I would like to **** **** off the people who flash thier lights at me for having HIDs, so I would like to show them a even brighter light
It won't happen unless you tweaked the setting for vertical cutoff. The cutoff is designed not to blind oncoming traffic.
Here is an example of the time it takes typical HID's to reach full intensity

HID4U has good overall feedback, i'd be scared to spend $35 on HID's LOL
they have a bixenon kit which includes the hi/low beams you can try for $90. two things, these are not BOSCH as is claimed and it looks like this resolves the issue with hi beam startup. Clean the area with alcohol before applying the adhesive tape to avoid having it fall off while driving, that would be bad.
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I thought the cut off was designed into the head lights optics and not the bulbs? Please elaborate.

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It won't happen unless you tweaked the setting for vertical cutoff. The cutoff is designed not to blind oncoming traffic.
Here is an example of the time it takes typical HID's to reach full intensity

HID4U has good overall feedback, i'd be scared to spend $35 on HID's LOL
they have a bixenon kit which includes the hi/low beams you can try for $90. two things, these are not BOSCH as is claimed and it looks like this resolves the issue with hi beam startup. Clean the area with alcohol before applying the adhesive tape to avoid having it fall off while driving, that would be bad.
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Originally Posted by Raptor75
I thought the cut off was designed into the head lights optics and not the bulbs? Please elaborate.
You're absolutely correct, as long as you don't adjust the settings your car came with there shouldn't be any problems with blinding oncoming cars. BUT if you do adjust these settings, even stock lights could blind oncoming traffic. and also **** them off


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