mac11

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yes, leasing. in small scale just like the other hydrogen cars.

There is no where in the world that has the infrastructure to support a hydrogen automotive fleet at this time.

Icemark

I didn't say that the FF would be hydrogen powered, did I?

I said probably a Hybrid and to add to that, more than likely with mazda's version of SIS and possibly more displacement (since that is the vein they have been playing with for the last year).

MrCairo

While I would indeed love to see this vehicle for sale it is likely pretty far off as a production car. The problem is delivery of the Hydrogen fuel. If they plan to release by 2010 then the existing gas stations need to be retrofitted. I would like to see it but I just don't think the infrastructure will be there in time.

I would certainly love to be wrong here though

[Oops looks like I repeated Mac11 - sorry about that!]

Icemark

again I didn't say that it would be hydrogen powered, I said it would probably be a version of the rotary Hybrid system. The Rotary Hybrid system is coming like it or not! A 40% increase in fuel economy (the biggest complaint of rotary owners) is hardly something to stick your nose up at.

But back to the link... it is not far off. It is this coming model year:

The Premacy is sold in the USA as the Mazda 5.

And Hydrogen stations are available in So-cal already... California always does lead the states on new tech roll out... of course that means that nobody will ever get a hydrogen powered car in Kentucky since they are about 10 years behind California in tech (its a joke- if it offended someone- get a thicker skin).

Anyway regardless of that, the biggest problem with Hydrogen is not the delivery it is the manufacturing. Right now most of the hydrogen in the USA comes from cracked crude oil...

Gomez

Just harking back to the first post in this thread for a minute.

Is there info anywhere in the USA that points to the imminent arrival of an updated RX-8?

I'm amazed that Mazda Australia has news on the future of the RX-8 that MNAO doesn't have. Someone over there knows something.

DOMINION

^Well that leads back to how we "found" info and vids on the Turbo & SC RX-8's down under. Not like Mazda had it all over there web sites before it was all over the front of car mags that year. Its up to them how they want to leak the info.

DOMINION

OK I see what your saying. Yup its a new Engine. I could be wrong but thats what I was told by my contact and his contact is works for MS of Mazda.

Phil_Hendrie_is_back

Man, those are big breasts!

Anyway, don't forget it is I and not Icemark who is the FIRST ONE on this forum to predict that a hybrid rotary will be Mazda's plan for a future rotary, not forced induction. I sense that the 2009/2010 rotary car may or may not have the hybrid. If not, it will have direct injection, and in this case the hybrid will be implemented in the next 4 years (around 2015) to mark the next generation of rotary evolution.

1. ME phil hendrie
2. Icemark
3. Who's next to make the hybrid prediction?

Oh, anyone who continues to argue that the rotary is not smart for Mazda's survival simply doesn't get it. In fact, the rotary is CRITICAL for Mazda's continued health and future growth.

Phil_Hendrie_is_back

My second prediction is that the new rotary in 2010 will indeed be called RX7.

It is time to bring the name back, especially during the middle of Mazda's most brilliant epoch in its history. Others may not agree with this notion, but it seems clear to me.

Here it would be appropriate to add a modified quote from the venerable winemakers, Earnest and Julio Gallo:

"We will sell no wine before its time" but when it's time, just sell the damn thing, biatch!

TeamRX8

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^^

Gomez

A new engine in May 2008?

Phil_Hendrie_is_back

That could just mean direct injection. Many people in this forum have already stated they think a hybrid would be costly for Mazda to develop/implement, impractical, and add unwanted weight. For all these reasons, they feel a hybrid is not going to happen.

I don't think it will be too costly because (1) of Mazda's recent success and (2) the rotary is in my simple analysis CRITICAL to Mazda's continued success and future growth, thus justifying the cost. I think a Honda-type battery will be very, very practical and will add about 200-250 lbs, hopefully on the lower end as Honda continues to advance the technology and shrink their batteries. If a Kabura/RX7 rotary can cut weight down to 2850, then a battery would bring it back up to 3050 to 3100 lbs, which would be more than acceptable with respect to other car companies' consistently gaining weight.

If anyone else has said any of this stuff, please let me know.

altspace

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Kind of on topic, has anyone here watched "Who killed the electric car?" It has some great insight to the future of our vehicles.

rotary crazy

just a few points:

-hybryd: we will continue to see this get develop, but not in a sports car, too much weight

-the engine in the facelift rx-8: I dont think this is a new engine, but I do think its an upgraded renesis

-rx-7 this is a hart one: I think that if mazda makes a no compromise sports car with better performance than the FD it has to be called RX-7, the history begind that name its just too big to just throw in the garbage

- next rotary engine: mazda themself answer that, a gasoline engine with better performance and fuel economy

mac11

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The FD was the anomaly in the RX-7 line. Its very doubtful you will see Mazda build another like it. The Kabura, given a rotary, seems to follow much in the line of the FC. Entry level, affordable, cheap, lightweight and fun. A great bang for the buck track car to compete with porsche at 1/3rd the price.

rotary crazy

lets see how I can explain my point ( english is my second language)

if mazda where to make and FD type car right now it would have to be a 12 second flat 1/4 mile car and compete with corvettes and porche 911, I really dont think mazda will do this.

But a low 13 second car with great performance and balance in a ultra light chassis( 2600lbs) with amazing brakes and turning, that I think they can built and call it a rx-7
and it has to be cheap

DOMINION

I did not catch that part I was in a panic with questions.
I did get a photo!

lol

mysql101

Why does the url say Honda Mule?

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7...s3kgpedce4.jpg

nycgps

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because thats a hard top next version of S2K ?

mac11

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I think you need to think more along the lines of high 13sec car to compete on the track with a caymenS.

rotary crazy

by the time this car is introduce im sure the caymen, 370z, g37c, and so on will be in 13.5 1/4, you should allways aim a little higher

DOMINION

It was a joke. If you recall all the old post when people would say the 8 looks like the S2K and so on.

RX8Maine

Entire post made useless by two words.

Revolver

Hahaha, I love how sure of yourselves some of you claim to be.

And this need to be recognised as the first to predict something??!! WTF is that about?? What are you waiting for? The forum to present you with a tiara and sash??

Absent some hard evidence from credible sources I just see a lot of crystal ball predictions of varying intelligence (incl mine of course). Don't get me wrong, I like the debate and appreciate the reasoning offered but let's not confuse speculation with actual knowledge.

Icemark

Exactly! Which makes me wonder why you posted what you did. All speculation... or more accurately described as wishful fantasy.

Actually posted in Automotive news and Autoweek (Mark Rechtin- who typically is dead on accurate with his reporting):
Again, the entire rear must be re-designed to meet the 2011 rear offset collision standards just to sell the car in the USA.