zoom44

coo i thought yesterday someone in this thread was from new hapshire. now i cant find who it was

hemanrulez

zoom,

did you call up that dealer or Mazda yet? I know this rumor has to be false, but I just want it sqashed once and for all.

Deslock

Ike is a troll with too much free time, but you're delusional if you think Mazda is meeting its initial USA sales targets. They've sold roughly 50,000 in 2.5 years (numbers are rounded):

2003: 12k (jul-dec)
2004: 24k
2005: 14k (jan-nov)

So they were 33% below the 18k target the first year, 20% below the 30k target the second year, and (unless they have phenomenal sales this month) they'll be 50% below the 30k target this year (not that they're still targeting sales numbers that high).

If they maintain 15k/year in sales, I don't think they'll kill off the 8. And I'm not worried about the rumor of them skipping MY2006.

Spin9k

I'm the one from New Hamster! See ----> right over there in little BIG letters ----->

ucfracerx8

I'm probably wrong here, so feel free to correct me, but aren't the Miata (MX-5) and RX-8 built on the same line?? Couldn't it be that they are delaying the RX-8 to build up an inventory of the new Miata since there is such a demand and then they will go back to splitting production.

I'll go back to my corner and shut up now.

RX-Hachi

I've seen the JDM lit on new colors and the new Shinka, but the one thing I haven't seen yet is any "official" JDM lit on the 6 spd Auto w/ beefed up Renesis power. Have you seen anything from Mazda Japan on the 6 spd AT yet? That's probably the biggest '06 change that some maybe waiting for.

Detrich

i heard from a little bird that the new one will fly and fire laser beams... <lol>

MDRX8

I want my 2006! I called 1-800-222-5500 Mazda Cust Service and they called up some in the sales Dept. NOW this is a he said, she said, situation. They said the 06 was still on go with production starting late Jan or early Feb. and would be on floors in March. I told him that doesn't make much sense because it would be about time for the 07. But he stood firm on the floor in March. I still believe the Dist. Rep. in that they really don't know what they are going to do.

NgoRX8

iTrader: (1)

Well, here comes the 06's

This thread should end now.

zoom44

no i had to take my wife's Subie into the shop- some how she broke the front sway bar . i did leave a meesage for someone but i havent heard back yet

Xeres

So if the 06's come out in March what kind of model facelift/updates are they planning on doing? Otherwise they are just shutting down production for 2-3 months for no good reason.

Go48

Stay tuned. Skuttlebutt has it that big news is coming at the Detroit Auto Show, 14-22 January. May relate to the RX-8, may not...not clear, but a "usually reliable source" says that it's big. Maybe just hype. Will have to wait and see. Worthless post--I know.

MDRX8

Xeres yes production is shut down ..... To many 05's left at dealers...

DrKillJoY

I spoke to my pal at the regional office here and he was not sure (or at least could not verify there was any production holdup)

However he did state that they were in the process or nearing the completion of building the production lines for the CX-7 and additional line(s) for the Mazda 3 (which btw is expected to hit 500,000 units by the end of the 2nd quarter next year) he got a chuckle at all of the claims mentioned here and did say that Mazda is looking at another good year next year globally regardless of RX-8 sales.

zoom44

Well there is a delay in production. production wa sinitally slated to begin in November. But here is what i have confirmed today-

There is no talking of skipping a MY. The main reason for the delay is capacity at the plant. They have pushed up the number of Mazda3 production due to demand and they also have had to increase production for the new MX-5 because of demand. and with production of the Mazdaspeed6 plus completion of the ramp up to CX-7 production and they dont have the capacity for RX-8 production. Plus they have more supply then they would like in the states. So they pushed back production start until after the normal japanese winter breaks. Production to start in January with first ones hitting lots in March- early april. (no that is not the normal time for th efollowing year MY as someone suggested - check Mazda's previous track record.) All marketing materials and ordering etc is being done as MY 2006.


also ask another contact to check to see if the stories match- they will report im sure with what they hear.

btw - i really wish dealers would think about what they say before they say it and remember that the person they are saying it to may go and tell 20k other people.

Ike

Deslock answered this well, even if he thinks I'm a troll

Also, it seems like semantics at this point... Production is ceased, no new model year car for the entire year of '05. So maybe there will be an '06 but it might as well be an '07. Furthermore, my first post was mostly in gest, I thought the silly dun dun dun would clue people in to that. I'd actually love to see the RX-8 sell much better since I'd like to see a Mazdaspeed 8 with some ***** or even a revised RX-8 with a little more giddy up. Each month the sales slump with the RX-8 reduces the likelyhood of that ever happening.

swoope

iTrader: (5)

ike = troll with style.

beers

DrKillJoY

Sounds similar to the story I got.

With only minor differences and he didn't say anything about the MX-5.

Face it guys, the 8 is taking a backseat to all of the lower digit cars for a while.

Jedi54

iTrader: (7)

It makes sense though. Isn't the RX-8 the most expensive car Mazda sells? (maybe MS6 is close...)

You'll sell a whole lot more $17,000 Mazda 3's then you will $30,000 Rx-8's.
Besides, we're no longer the 'new kid on the block', time to crank out some of the newer models a bit; CX, MX-5, MS6, and then we'll be back in business!

SHOWOFF

I have seen this before with other car lines.

In 1999 when the new Mustang Cobra was introduced it was supposed to produce 316 HP at the crank. Then Ford upped it to 320 HP. When the car came out people immediately went to the dyno and the cars were coming in around 210 on the low side to as high as 265. There was an error in the casting of the intake manifold where there was what they refer to as "casting flash" in the aluminum. This interrupted the tumble effect of the air entering the combustion chamber.

Ford re-intro'd a new intake for effected cars and in the end did not introduce a 2000 Cobra (they did make the 2000 Cobra R) but came out with an early launch of a 2001 VERY early in 2000. This car sported a new type of intake manifold all together. Our dealership had to refund deposits and re-order all of our stock. The same things had happened with color charts and such, but they still cancelled the car for that year.

Bottom line. It has been done before with other companies and Ford does own Mazda. It's possible that Mazda has something up their sleeve for 2007 and they realize that they need to introduce it to keep things going well. With the news of the 450 Z coming soon they may have to jump ahead of schedule with their new ideas that we hope they have for the RX-8.

Who knows.

Ike

That's a special model so it's a little different.

hemanrulez

Amen to that brotha.

DARKMAZ8

All I have to say is this.......All car manufacturers are having a tough time right now. If oil is at full production(which it is) and the price is stable at $60-65 a barrel...this is a big problem for the auto industry. Anything that could halt oil production can send oil prices to $100 a barrel. In this world, we have uncertainty. Nothing is guarenteed and oil is going up and up and up. Now, I'm not saying that this is directly why rx8 sales are not what they once were or that this is the reason why there will be no 2006 model but it definately opened up eyes and changes will have to be made. Profit margins have decreased and this is directly linked to oil. oil is not only used to run a car but it is linked to everything involved in the auto industry.

I'm just not sure if the rx8 really has a bright future anymore. An 8 year model line for a vehicle that consumes this much gas is not the brightest buy on the market. 8 years can do a lot to oil prices.

MDRX8

Zoom, nothing I said was untrue. Like you said they were suppose to start in NOV....Keep pushing it back cause all the 05 left. So their are up in the air and are going to be so late they are considering CALLING it a 07. AND it is going to be a while before we see a "NEW" RX8.

I will be waiting!

allmotorRX8

theres only 1 way to settle this, bare knuckle boxing