No 2006 model RX8?
12-08-2005 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MDRX8
Zoom, nothing I said was untrue. Like you said they were suppose to start in NOV....Keep pushing it back cause all the 05 left. So their are up in the air and are going to be so late they are considering CALLING it a 07. AND it is going to be a while before we see a "NEW" RX8.
I will be waiting!
I will be waiting!
12-08-2005 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DARKMAZ8
All I have to say is this.......All car manufacturers are having a tough time right now. If oil is at full production(which it is) and the price is stable at $60-65 a barrel...this is a big problem for the auto industry. Anything that could halt oil production can send oil prices to $100 a barrel. In this world, we have uncertainty. Nothing is guarenteed and oil is going up and up and up. Now, I'm not saying that this is directly why rx8 sales are not what they once were or that this is the reason why there will be no 2006 model but it definately opened up eyes and changes will have to be made. Profit margins have decreased and this is directly linked to oil. oil is not only used to run a car but it is linked to everything involved in the auto industry.
I'm just not sure if the rx8 really has a bright future anymore. An 8 year model line for a vehicle that consumes this much gas is not the brightest buy on the market. 8 years can do a lot to oil prices.
I'm just not sure if the rx8 really has a bright future anymore. An 8 year model line for a vehicle that consumes this much gas is not the brightest buy on the market. 8 years can do a lot to oil prices.
12-08-2005 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RX-Aight
I'll tell you what, I'm glad that I bought one of the last 05s in my area. I don't think I could have waited until 2007!!!
12-08-2005 | 09:36 PM
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well there is a legal date sanp-on 
its set in Federal law and it has to due with the company's normal production period. and they can't just change it willie nillie. i cant find the applicable statute right now but it says somethign about the model year is the company's normal production year and that all the model with the same model year must have no significant changes and there is something about not going over 2 Januaries. if a manufaturer doesnt specify a normal production period(like fiscal year) then its by calendar year.
its set in Federal law and it has to due with the company's normal production period. and they can't just change it willie nillie. i cant find the applicable statute right now but it says somethign about the model year is the company's normal production year and that all the model with the same model year must have no significant changes and there is something about not going over 2 Januaries. if a manufaturer doesnt specify a normal production period(like fiscal year) then its by calendar year.
12-08-2005 | 09:43 PM
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i have often said that when Mazda says something will be available in x year they mean that calendar year and not late the prior year for the MY as most companies. So saying the 6speed AT will be on 2006 rx-8s(actually publishing that info mind you) to them means you'll see it in calendar 2006
like the RX-8 itself came out as a 2004. many of us that were waiting for it thought that meant late 2003 for MY2004 but they werent available until half way thru 2004. So they are used to the calendar year being the Model year.
like the RX-8 itself came out as a 2004. many of us that were waiting for it thought that meant late 2003 for MY2004 but they werent available until half way thru 2004. So they are used to the calendar year being the Model year.
12-08-2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
i have often said that when Mazda says something will be available in x year they mean that calendar year and not late the prior year for the MY as most companies. So saying the 6speed AT will be on 2006 rx-8s(actually publishing that info mind you) to them means you'll see it in calendar 2006
like the RX-8 itself came out as a 2004. many of us that were waiting for it thought that meant late 2003 for MY2004 but they werent available until half way thru 2004. So they are used to the calendar year being the Model year.
like the RX-8 itself came out as a 2004. many of us that were waiting for it thought that meant late 2003 for MY2004 but they werent available until half way thru 2004. So they are used to the calendar year being the Model year.
12-08-2005 | 10:56 PM
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Just wait till mazda gives a date for the mazdaspeed 8...then you'll just have to wait about a year after the inital date for the car to finally show up in extremely limited supplies just so all the dealers can throw 3-5k "market adjustment markup's on the thing". Don't forget the tried and true formula of summer performance tires in the middle of winter!
No I'm not bitter about the MPS 6 delays...
No I'm not bitter about the MPS 6 delays...
12-09-2005 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
I've seen the JDM lit on new colors and the new Shinka, but the one thing I haven't seen yet is any "official" JDM lit on the 6 spd Auto w/ beefed up Renesis power. Have you seen anything from Mazda Japan on the 6 spd AT yet? That's probably the biggest '06 change that some maybe waiting for.
No I haven't either. I've been VERY curious about that. Also about what the magazines are calling a "minor change" for '07. The changes we see with the Mazda6 would be an example. What's Mazda got up their sleeve...
12-09-2005 | 05:08 AM
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This confirms there will be a 06 RX8. Follow the link. Click on the automatic. Don't look at the side stuff. At the end it will say 212 hp and 6 sp auto....
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/conf...ip=0&zip=61604
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/conf...ip=0&zip=61604
12-09-2005 | 07:34 AM
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Rx8
From a District Manager.
"As you can see, things can change quickly in this business. Here's what I have ( as of 4:30 PM EST) Per a corporate conference that was conducted earlier today regarding the production ( Job 1) date for the
2006 RX-8.
I was not personally involved on the call however our regional planning dept. personnel were.
They informed me that:
06-RX-8: Although January-06 is now the target production month. We still do not have firm production dates. The January (month) production is still subject to change. If in fact, we do get underway in January, then the orders already in the system (collected last month) will be built first with an estimated arrival date of sometime in mid to late March 2006 . Orders accepted this month will be (normal channels) then be produced in February for a mid -early arrival in April.
Again, this all depends on what time of the month (Jan.) that Job 1 begins. I suspect that we should have an official "start date" by sometime next week/
You should note that we still do not having any pricing information."""
Yhat is it. Them I will eat crow for saying there MAY NOT be a 06
"As you can see, things can change quickly in this business. Here's what I have ( as of 4:30 PM EST) Per a corporate conference that was conducted earlier today regarding the production ( Job 1) date for the
2006 RX-8.
I was not personally involved on the call however our regional planning dept. personnel were.
They informed me that:
06-RX-8: Although January-06 is now the target production month. We still do not have firm production dates. The January (month) production is still subject to change. If in fact, we do get underway in January, then the orders already in the system (collected last month) will be built first with an estimated arrival date of sometime in mid to late March 2006 . Orders accepted this month will be (normal channels) then be produced in February for a mid -early arrival in April.
Again, this all depends on what time of the month (Jan.) that Job 1 begins. I suspect that we should have an official "start date" by sometime next week/
You should note that we still do not having any pricing information."""
Yhat is it. Them I will eat crow for saying there MAY NOT be a 06
12-09-2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
except for the 07 bit you are right. they cant call it an '07 legally if it starts production before like may or something.
well there is a legal date sanp-on its set in Federal law and it has to due with the company's normal production period. and they can't just change it willie nillie. i cant find the applicable statute right now but it says somethign about the model year is the company's normal production year and that all the model with the same model year must have no significant changes and there is something about not going over 2 Januaries. if a manufaturer doesnt specify a normal production period(like fiscal year) then its by calendar year.
its set in Federal law and it has to due with the company's normal production period. and they can't just change it willie nillie. i cant find the applicable statute right now but it says somethign about the model year is the company's normal production year and that all the model with the same model year must have no significant changes and there is something about not going over 2 Januaries. if a manufaturer doesnt specify a normal production period(like fiscal year) then its by calendar year.
The one car that sticks out illustrating this is when the C4 Corvette was introduced. Although there were 43 1983 Corvettes built and VINed, all were preproduction examples. Most were used by magazines and other corporate GM purposes. When they tried to start produciton, significant quality issues forced them to halt before any units made it off the line. It wasn't until late February that they were ready to roll again and subsequently, the first C4 Corvettes made it into customer hands in March 1983 as 1984 models.
12-09-2005 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by IkeWRX
Are you alright dude. do you really believe what you're typing??? They were on dealer lots late summer of '03.
dude that was bothering me all night last night
apparently i was more tired than i thought. i even told my wife i should come back on and correct it last night or i would have to do a major mea culpa's this morning.So here it is- Mea Culpa
first let me say that apparently someone tried to tell me a month or more ago that it would be AT LEAST january before 2006 production started. apparently i wasnt listening. sorry.
second ill correct what i said. Mazda said the RX-8 would be out in 2003. Many of us thoguth that meant fall of 2002 but it meant in the calendar year 2003 as a 2004 model.
Having said that and re-evaluating what i understand the rules are for Model Year designation- IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IF PRODUCTION WERE TO START AFTER JANUARY LIKE FEB. OR MARCH THAT IT COULD BE DESIGNATED A 2007 MODEL.
so sorry to MDRX8 on that point. see they cant call the production 2005 still because it would cross over 2 Januaries. so they have to at least call it 2006 MY. Mazda has said there will be a facelift or other changes in 2007. For Mazda that means Calendar year 2007 . So if they make no changes until CY 2007 then they could skip Model Year 2006 and go with MY 2007 all the way until the Facelift in 2007 which would become the 2008 Model Year cars.
Im not saying this IS happening only that it is a possibility.
Also thanks to MDRX8 and Xeres for posting about this on the forum. I have no doubt the conference call he is talking about happened because of the Spotlight thrown on the issue by this thread and and the attempts to get clarification that it spawned.
edit- of course they might have to trash some marketing material that has already been produced. or they could simply do a short run of a couple of months for 2006 MY to satisfy any regulatory issues and not trash the literature and then switch to 2007production in April or MAY. that would coincide with the original production start.
12-09-2005 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
Having said that and re-evaluating what i understand the rules are for Model Year designation- IT IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE THAT IF PRODUCTION WERE TO START AFTER JANUARY LIKE FEB. OR MARCH THAT IT COULD BE DESIGNATED A 2007 MODEL.
so sorry to MDRX8 on that point. see they cant call the production 2005 still because it would cross over 2 Januaries. so they have to at least call it 2006 MY. Mazda has said there will be a facelift or other changes in 2007. For Mazda that means Calendar year 2007 . So if they make no changes until CY 2007 then they could skip Model Year 2006 and go with MY 2007 all the way until the Facelift in 2007 which would become the 2008 Model Year cars.
so sorry to MDRX8 on that point. see they cant call the production 2005 still because it would cross over 2 Januaries. so they have to at least call it 2006 MY. Mazda has said there will be a facelift or other changes in 2007. For Mazda that means Calendar year 2007 . So if they make no changes until CY 2007 then they could skip Model Year 2006 and go with MY 2007 all the way until the Facelift in 2007 which would become the 2008 Model Year cars.
12-09-2005 | 12:42 PM
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Hey all I want
I have a 04 and want a new 8......But don't want to get a 05 model....Just produce a 06 or 07 so I can get a new one and OUT of this lease. Want to do some modificatons on it but can't on a leased 8.
Thats my story and I'm stickin to it!
Thats my story and I'm stickin to it!
12-09-2005 | 01:27 PM
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Just a side note regarding Mazda's own skipping of model years...
Albeit was a much larger change in the model of the vehicle there was no 1992 RX-7. They started building FDs before they had even finished all of the FCs if my memory serves me correctly.
Albeit was a much larger change in the model of the vehicle there was no 1992 RX-7. They started building FDs before they had even finished all of the FCs if my memory serves me correctly.
12-09-2005 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DrKillJoY
Sounds similar to the story I got.
With only minor differences and he didn't say anything about the MX-5.
Face it guys, the 8 is taking a backseat to all of the lower digit cars for a while.
With only minor differences and he didn't say anything about the MX-5.
Face it guys, the 8 is taking a backseat to all of the lower digit cars for a while.
Actually, we should be happy about this. This shows Mazda has pretty good production flexibility which is key to profit, which is key to Mazda funding its Halo cars.
Mazda is not stupid, the can sell every 3 they can make and could stand to produce thousands more. That and getting the Miata out and in volume is important also. We have to realize, as cool as the RX8 is, its a nich car, and while profitable doesn't make nearly the $$$ that some of these other cars do.
The point is, there will be 2006 RX8's, what ever they call them. Car makers are so screwed up on model years now adays I think we should start going backwards. Lets have a 2001 RX8.
Everyone relax and return to your regularily scheduled threads.
12-12-2005 | 04:36 PM
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Mazda sez.
Got this reply from mazda:
Thanks for contacting Mazda.
The ETA for the 2006 RX-8 is Spring of 2006 . I recommend that you check
with your local Mazda dealer to inquire as to when they can start
placing orders.
Happy Holidays!
Regards,
Thom R.
Specialist, Customer Assistance E-Business
Thanks for contacting Mazda.
The ETA for the 2006 RX-8 is Spring of 2006 . I recommend that you check
with your local Mazda dealer to inquire as to when they can start
placing orders.
Happy Holidays!
Regards,
Thom R.
Specialist, Customer Assistance E-Business
12-13-2005 | 04:49 AM
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We're already getting the'06 model in Spain. It includes all-round leather seats, some polished ***** and cruise control (we didn't get it before). No keyless entry module.
I think that sums it up except for the possible satnav improvements (Voice recognition and all that) that I haven't yet seen.
You guys must be loaded with '05s, they just wanna get rid of the stock before this "slightly" improved model comes around.
I think that sums it up except for the possible satnav improvements (Voice recognition and all that) that I haven't yet seen.
You guys must be loaded with '05s, they just wanna get rid of the stock before this "slightly" improved model comes around.
12-13-2005 | 02:44 PM
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I took my RX8 to the dealership for an oil change last week... they had a brochure with information on the 2006 models... the RX8 was listed as a 2006 model with a "late release".
12-15-2005 | 03:27 AM
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This confirms there will be a 06 RX8. Follow the link. Click on the automatic. Don't look at the side stuff. At the end it will say 212 hp and 6 sp auto....
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/conf...ip=0&zip=61604
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/conf...ip=0&zip=61604
The interior selection have errors, but I'll just put it down as how the site shows right now.
Here are the exterior and interior choice, don't know how accurate:
Exterior (Code) [Interior Choice]:
Whitewater Pearl Mica (25D) [F3, F4, F6, FF9]
Velocity Red (27A) [F3, F4, F5, F6]
Brilliant Black (A3F) [F3, F4, F5, F6, FF9]
Winning Blue (27B) [F3, F6]
Galaxy Grey (32S) [F3, F4, F5, F6, FF9]
Phantom Blue (32C) [F3, F6]
Sunlight Silver (22V) [F3, F4, F5, F6]
Copper Red (32V) [FF9]
Interior [Available in] (Code):
Black [Cloth/Leather] (F3)
Black Red [Cloth/Leather] (F4)
Black Chaparral [Cloth/Leather] (F5)
Black (FABRIC) [Cloth/Leather] (F6)
Black Alcantara [Cloth/Leather] (FF9)
It should be:
Cloth: Black (FABRIC) Cloth
Leather: Black/Black Red/Black Chaparral/Alcantara
Spec Deck showed only Copper Red and Whitewater Pearl Mica (Snowflake White Pearl) have FF9 as choice, no other color can choose FF9 as interior.
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12-15-2005 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
oh i should say this is about North American models. Japan and europe have cars with the new features already. thanks maikelnait for the reminder
