Totally agree, this is one of the arguments I can see me and my wife having with our first child. My kid mouths of to me and he/she better run for the hills. He stated the kid mouthed off, that calls for an *** beaten in my book. OH, and 15 is hardley a kid, he may be bigger than his Dad. If he slammed his kid because he crqshed the car after he gave him the key's is uncalled for but if the kid mouthed off or took the keys without permision it's all good. My father would of beaten my ***, maybe that's why I never did it.

 

No matter what, if funds all or most of college he should still get the 8.

That's a good learning experince and being responsible if he funds college.

 

if you ask the OP I am sure he would say his wife

 

I don't think he needs to. I mean, everyone already has it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggtaVqCnGRw

 

Yes because so many injuries can be caused by slamming an 8 into a wooden shelf going 10-15 miles an hour for about a foot.

I agree with punishment and things like that, but the way I think the OP goes around it, when your kid grows up and does go off to that college like you say, I wouldn't expect him to call home all too often.

My Dad and I hardly ever talk anymore. He's too stubborn to call or e-mail me, and I'm just a forgetful person, I'll tell myself I should call him then completely forget about calling him once I get home, or get to work. Or leave work, or go on lunch, or visit the forum, etc.

 

cost me 1400.00 and change.

My son is fine and if you would have acted differently about blatant disrespect, I feel sorry about any offspring that you raise. I have four of my own children and a niece that live with me and these children (18, 15,6, 3 and 3) are well adjusted, solid students and good Christians. I teach and have a Master's in Counseling as well as extensive military training (discipline). I did not and would not hurt my son, especially for something as meaningless as my car. It upset me that he did not follow instructions, but as I said...it was MY fault. When he smarted off 30 minutes later, that is when I put him on the wall. I do not accept disrespect toward parents. That goes for my children and my students. I did what I thought was necessary and I would do it again.

Those of you with your uneducated or liberal views on the matter...good luck getting your kids out of your house, jail or rehab. Since I raise my kids responsibly, with love, a measure of discipline and with the Lord's help, I will not have these issues.

 

 

i love how you think that forceful action is the only way to raise a child...

and any other way is uneducated and will lead to our children being in rhab or kids who live at home their whole lives.

Im a dedicated christian and from your post...someone who is uneducated would think that christians preach to use force as discipline...this is not the case

 

He's 15, if he cant handle an *** whooping at that age than you should eat him.

I dropped my bike against my fathers 7 series when I was about 10 years old, he didnt eat me alive but he chewed my *** up and spit me out... I didnt ever put my bike in that corner of the garage again.

Im sure your son will remember to check the shifter before popping the clutch now... lesson learned, no one is dead or bleeding, Id say you did the right thing.

 

Way to bring religion into it... Awesome.

 

When isn't religion brought into anything

 

So you're a "teacher" with a "Masters in Counseling" and this is all you came up with?

 

yeah... we all probably know what you were trying to say, but should probably leave religion out of it. There is freedom of religion and all, but the way you say it, makes it seem as though if he wasnt christian, he'd be a worse person, which isnt necessarily the case.

 

Hope you don't push reiligion on your children like my parents did to me...I use to go to Church everday, have to read the bible, pray nightly, and I do absolutely none of it now and second guess everything they taught me

Being forceful isn't the only way to parent.

By the way, 1400 dollars? Egad. Have to ask though, how much money has he spent you on gas since he sits in the garage and rev's it all the time

 

that sucks.......so to hear that..

 

Yea, I'm not a Christian so I guess I'm going to jail pretty soon as are all of my kids.

(I don't have kids yet so whenever I do, I make reservations at the prison for them. Do they have cribs for babies there? Anyone?)

 

Great now he's giving me, as a Christian, a bad name.


We're not all like that.
We don't all abuse our children.
We don't all appeal to degrees.
We don't all impose it on our children, the vast majority of Christians believe that it's a conscious decision that has to be made.

No matter how you cut it with your logic, it sounds like "UG. ME JOE. YOU JANE. JANE HURT 8. JOE HURT JANE. OOGA BOOGA. *WHAP*"

Instead of trying to save face as a decent parent [which SHOULD be important to you, with 4 of your own and another one in your care], you care more about the car. That's sick.

I'd hate to see what a $10,000 accident would warrant in your mind...would you build a guillotine?

 

Jesus beat me up before, dude's quick with his hands

 

wow, i just read this thread and can see that alot of people aren't understanding the OP at all, after he clearified what exactily happened i think what he did was fine. WHOOO physical contact big deal, hes 15 not 10. some people need to raise their children and not worry about others. as for teaching the child a lesson i know my parents would have made me pay that 1.4k and i wouldnt question it.

 

I somehow knew I would at least get one decent laugh when I clicked on this thread .

 

Not to mention posting your family "issues" online for the world to scrutinize and then accusing those who disagree with your methods of being "uneducated" and "liberal".

 

Somehow, I think a dented car and a broken headlight are the least of the issues at your house. Hope your son is OK. Who gives a **** about the car - it's just a car, dude. Your son is the only one like him. I agree that fifteen year old sons are challenging (having one of those myself, plus a matched set of 12 year old sons just waiting to be fifteen too), but the one in the serious wrong here is you, not him:

1) You left the car in gear
2) You let an underage, non-driving teen start it

By the fact that he didn't apologize to you shows that there's some issues there that go far beyond your car. Hope you guys work this out. Fugheddbout the car.

 

bingo. Here's what I thought when I read this:

well, fortunately for you Ocho, you still have a shot at a decent life. It seems like the combo of Christian, Educated, and NON-liberal are the keys. So I'm hoping that one or two out of three might help you skate by . . .
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jeez OP - I thought people were being WAY too hard on you thru this thread, but there's just so many things that scream ignorance - all in just one f8ckin sentence!! bravo!



oh yeah - IBTL!!!

 

and how would a 15 year old pay $1.4k?

Selling drugs?

 

you can get a McJob and work the summer