BlueRenesis82

Wow, work the whole summer for $1.4k?

Selling drugs would be much faster

rglbegl

A car is a car - Ferrari or pinto - it is still just a car.

Your son is your flesh and blood ( 50% )

NEVER FORGET THAT!!!!!!


Now if he was mouthing off . . . punishment may be an order.
But wrecking a car is just an ACCIDENT.




So you gonna eat him or what? Maybe a little BBQ sauce would help.

Rems31

actually he's just 50% of his DNA...if it were 50% of his flesh and blood, that would have been some amazing operation

Shinka-Dono

Don't forget the "liberal" part too. It is worth noting these horrid liberal states have more kids going on the college, lower teen pregnancy rate, lower incarceration rate (there goes the prison projection) and lower rate of violent crime. Stupid liberals.

cornrowdpantha

Ok, since this seems to be a discussion on Child-rearing...

I have to say that, after providing more detail on the circumstances, I agree completely with the OP on his handling of the situation. Maybe it's just me and where I'm from, but had I mouthed off to my dad while living in his house and eatting food that he buys, I woulda probably been slammed into a wall just the same.

Sadly, the fact is an increasing number of parents don't discipline their children EFFECTIVELY. For some kids, a firm-talking-to will be enough to get their attention. However, it seems to me that most kids need a little bit more than this. As someone said previously, if more kids got what they needed in terms of effective discipline, there would be less of the types of unmannerable misbehavior that has become so commonly accepted. Ever heard a child tell their parents to shut up, or go away (it hurts thinking about what would have happened had I ever said anything like that to my parents. I'm bigger than both of my parents combined, and I STILL to this day would never even entertain the thought of saying anything like that...)? Usually, this is the result of a lack of effective discipline, which has lead the child to feel that it is ok to talk to their parents like that.

Also consider, as was previously mentioned, that 15 year old boys can be a challenge to deal with in some instances. At 15, most of us guys are in a stage where we don't feel that we should have to listen to anyone, usually due to the fact that we're rapidly growing physically. Thus, sometimes it's necessary to give them a small reminder of exactly who the boss is.

And yes, there is a major discipline between EFFECTIVE corporal punishment and abuse. I was not, nor was my younger brother or any of the people that I've grown up with, abused in any way. I was, however, well acquainted with the belt, extension cord, sandle, or whatever other suitable object was within easy reach whenever my behavior warranted such.

In the OP's situation, so long as he didn't manhandle the kid ONLY or PRIMARILY because the car was damaged, there was no abuse...

dmc27

^ I agree. It's just too bad OP came back w/such an incredibly foolish sounding indictment of anyone who DID NOT see things his way.

w/e. I still got dibs on teh ribs.

Shini

Eh, I can understand roughing a kid up to get him in line, but the way he described the situation and talked about in the first post, it sounds really bad.

And the way he replied in a later post, even worse.

corn is right, and I do agree with punishment, but in this case it just sounds really really bad...Maybe if he had said something a little bit more civilized than just "YEAH I KICKED HIS ***! NO ONE TALKS BACK TO MEEEEEEE! ARRRRRRRGH!"
Then no one would have a problem. Sounded a bit barbaric IMO, in which case he will be eating his son. Which should be pretty tasty!

MrSuicideDoor

dude, what?

cornrowdpantha

LMAO!! I'm definitely in favor of any post that has "ARRRRRRRGH!" in it someplace

Michael

I totally believe that you can rear a child with or without physical punishment. I was licked as a child, but NEVER, EVER, was I spanked in ANGER.

The fact that it was done as a REACTION to being talked back to is the problem, that distinguishes it from a spanking.

Some of ya'll seem to have had shitty childhoods...

So, OP, did he turn the other cheek?

The Drunk IT Guy

E-Brake?????


My dad was a very logical person, everything he taught me had substance, reason. I knew he wouldn't lead me wrong and it turned out to be a mutual respect that continues to this day. Perhaps I needed less "discipline" than others, but he rarely needed to punish or whoop my ***..

However it was my mom that brought the belt, and half the time I wasn't 100% on why my *** and back were being torn up...

//Thanks dad for not being a christian
///Thanks dad for your distaste in the military
/////Thanks dad for being a down-to-earth, honest guy..

MrSuicideDoor

if you were hit more as a child you wouldn't be so sarcastic now

dmc27

nah. I'm a sarcastic SOB, and I felt a belt a few times as a kid.

so much for that logic.

MrSuicideDoor

oh yeah!??!

that'll learn you

ChuLooz

i never said he needed to get the money up front, just be able to pay him back.

8is>enuff

dmc27

LMAO! that's effin priceless!



stolen.

thks

ivory8

ehemmm! about the money issue...im still 15 and if some of you have read some of my threads then you would know that i saved abouttt 4.6k of my own cash (mowing lawns..blah blah blah) to help pay for my car....money isnt an issue as long as the kid tries...

Silver_Surfer

I think I'm gonna give my son a hug & tell him I love him right now!

rddragoness

I don't believe the OP should have to defend his actions, or reactions....but he did portray his story on a public forum, which entitled others to respond. He did inturn clarify that his son mouthed off some 30 minutes after the incident, to which he was disciplined. My 2 boys are 20 and 22 respectively...They have mouthed off, and they have been popped on the *** with a belt, at 15, or in the mouth with the back of my hand. I raised them as my parent's did me....with love and with consequences. Regardless of religious background, education or any other factors, the # 1 responsibility of a parent is to teach their child. Not one of us knew anything when we were born and if it had not been for our parents.....no matter their strategy, we would not be who we are today. Tough love has been a part of my parenting skills since they were old enough to reach out and grab at something harmful, or that they shouldn't have. My boys are not jail birds, would not harm another person, and are respectful to not only their parents but all elders.

pdxhak

iTrader: (2)

Use reverse when parking on a hill with the e-brake.

cornrowdpantha

Perhaps I've misunderstood what you're saying, but wouldn't all punishment / disciplinary action fall under the catagory of "reactionary"?

BLKrxEIGHT

each child is different, each one needs a certain level of discipline, it is your job as a parent to adapt to your child's needs (more discipline, less, firm hand, soft hand) in order to help them become a responsible adult.

Michael

Of course punishment is inherently reactionary, but to what degree?

You punish so that they learn from their actions/misdoings. Your father doesn't spank you because he likes to spank - he does it to remind you that if an action is repeated that those will be the painful consequences.

You don't snap in anger and beat them, that action wrongly promotes the message that it is through that mechanism [manhandling] that they solve their problems.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear. I'm totally alright with corporal punishment when delivered in the correct fashion. CPS doesn't get called when you spank your children, they get called when you can't control your temper enough not to throw your children into walls.