Oil change
06-20-2011 | 06:02 PM
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Oil change
Going for my first oil change what oil do I use? I am probably going t have to go to wal mart to do it, Mazda place pissed me off and nothing else is open today, should I wait and go somewhere else?
06-20-2011 | 06:04 PM
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Read this and please don't make oil threads...
Which oil to use
The most debated question in the community, bordering on a religious war, so I won't try to cover every point here.
It boils down to deciding for yourself.
Some go with 5w20, to stay with Mazda's recommendation in North America. Some go with 5w30 to go with Mazda's recommendation outside North America. Others go to 10w40 or even 20w50, the most common weights among RX-7s. The general arguement revolves around if 5w20 is too thin or not. So research up on it (if someone has a specific oil thread to link here, let me know), and make your own decision.
Dino vs synthetic is another hot topic, with the main arguement revolving around if the strength of the synthetic is worth the cost, and if there is any better burning (or not better burning) than dino oils, and if any deposits are left behind that could increase engine wear. Mazda only recommends non-synthetic, but does not require it. Your decision.
Which oil to use
The most debated question in the community, bordering on a religious war, so I won't try to cover every point here.
It boils down to deciding for yourself.
Some go with 5w20, to stay with Mazda's recommendation in North America. Some go with 5w30 to go with Mazda's recommendation outside North America. Others go to 10w40 or even 20w50, the most common weights among RX-7s. The general arguement revolves around if 5w20 is too thin or not. So research up on it (if someone has a specific oil thread to link here, let me know), and make your own decision.
Dino vs synthetic is another hot topic, with the main arguement revolving around if the strength of the synthetic is worth the cost, and if there is any better burning (or not better burning) than dino oils, and if any deposits are left behind that could increase engine wear. Mazda only recommends non-synthetic, but does not require it. Your decision.
06-20-2011 | 07:42 PM
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Don't do it at Walmart. They use an impact gun to put the bolt back on the oil pan. Good luck getting that off next time. But anyways the two most popular from what I've learned is 5w20 or 5w30 non synthetic. People that use synthetic or 10w30 or higher usually have the sohn adapter so they dont have to worry about burning off the oil. As for the brand everyone has their own two cents about that so just use your favorite as long as its a name brand and not some guy in his backyard shop mixing up his own concoction you should be fine. Although I have yet to meet this guy so you should be ok lol.
06-20-2011 | 07:46 PM
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06-20-2011 | 07:56 PM
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06-20-2011 | 08:03 PM
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Here we go again...
Same old war again...
Stating it as fail isn't any more accurate then the statement has to begin with. Nothing has been proven in any facet of either side of the argument, so that is all it will ever be.
Same old war again...
Stating it as fail isn't any more accurate then the statement has to begin with. Nothing has been proven in any facet of either side of the argument, so that is all it will ever be.
06-20-2011 | 08:15 PM
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06-20-2011 | 08:16 PM
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B. The installation of a SOHN has absolutely nothing to do with the weight of oil chosen by the owner.
06-20-2011 | 10:01 PM
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Midnight - is this your first car? If not, where did you take your prior ones for oil changes?
Just find a place that you'll trust to not screw things up. There may even be good Jiffy Lubes - depends on who's working there.
Important part is to use a name brand oil that at least meets the specs in the owner's manual, and to use a good quality oil filter. Not one of the standard versions of the consumer brands.
Ken
Just find a place that you'll trust to not screw things up. There may even be good Jiffy Lubes - depends on who's working there.
Important part is to use a name brand oil that at least meets the specs in the owner's manual, and to use a good quality oil filter. Not one of the standard versions of the consumer brands.
Ken
06-20-2011 | 10:40 PM
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Honestly I always took my previous trucks to Wal Mart because I had three friends that work there and always gave me discounts and the best,
however this is a car so I figured it would be different which it is.... I did not use wal mart no worries there, I am using snapee lube, non synthetic 5w30
didn't mean to start a war....
however this is a car so I figured it would be different which it is.... I did not use wal mart no worries there, I am using snapee lube, non synthetic 5w30
didn't mean to start a war....
06-20-2011 | 10:59 PM
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I'm not sure where you are getting your information from. I am talking about conventional motor oil. All oil now-a-days is at least partially synthetic with the additives used. I don't know if that is what you mean but it was supposed to be understood that I meant conventional oil when I said non synthetic.
B. I am not going to fuel the fire for this war. Like RIWWP said there is no evidence and I don't like to argue for no reason. I was just giving her my opinion.
To OP many wars were over females. We are just reliving history like many have before us
06-20-2011 | 11:09 PM
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Actually I've got some of my best service at WallyMart.
They are so used to complaints that they go out of their way to prove they do it 'right'.
They'll show you your empty oil bottles to prove what they put in, and they had me witness the manager using a torque wrench to put the final torque on my wheel changeover - I gots no complaints!
They are so used to complaints that they go out of their way to prove they do it 'right'.
They'll show you your empty oil bottles to prove what they put in, and they had me witness the manager using a torque wrench to put the final torque on my wheel changeover - I gots no complaints!
06-20-2011 | 11:19 PM
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Actually I've got some of my best service at WallyMart.
They are so used to complaints that they go out of their way to prove they do it 'right'.
They'll show you your empty oil bottles to prove what they put in, and they had me witness the manager using a torque wrench to put the final torque on my wheel changeover - I gots no complaints!
They are so used to complaints that they go out of their way to prove they do it 'right'.
They'll show you your empty oil bottles to prove what they put in, and they had me witness the manager using a torque wrench to put the final torque on my wheel changeover - I gots no complaints!
06-21-2011 | 01:48 AM
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Actually I've got some of my best service at WallyMart.
They are so used to complaints that they go out of their way to prove they do it 'right'.
They'll show you your empty oil bottles to prove what they put in, and they had me witness the manager using a torque wrench to put the final torque on my wheel changeover - I gots no complaints!
They are so used to complaints that they go out of their way to prove they do it 'right'.
They'll show you your empty oil bottles to prove what they put in, and they had me witness the manager using a torque wrench to put the final torque on my wheel changeover - I gots no complaints!
That sounds pretty good. I know when I took my car to get new tires at DiscountTire they must use an air ratchet to tighten all the way because when I get home I check the torque. Every lug is different, some as low as 40 lbs and some as high as 90ish. Really wish places would finish lugs with a torque wrench to make sure they are good.
06-21-2011 | 02:57 AM
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You can never say with certainty that "This Place" sucks, or "That Place" rocks, for service. It 100% depends on the particular technician working on your car.
I was an auto mechanic for 10 years, working everywhere from a very small tune-up shop, to a new car dealership (and everywhere in between.) I've seen excellent and horrible techs at each establishment.
I was an auto mechanic for 10 years, working everywhere from a very small tune-up shop, to a new car dealership (and everywhere in between.) I've seen excellent and horrible techs at each establishment.
06-21-2011 | 11:42 PM
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You can never say with certainty that "This Place" sucks, or "That Place" rocks, for service. It 100% depends on the particular technician working on your car.
I was an auto mechanic for 10 years, working everywhere from a very small tune-up shop, to a new car dealership (and everywhere in between.) I've seen excellent and horrible techs at each establishment.
I was an auto mechanic for 10 years, working everywhere from a very small tune-up shop, to a new car dealership (and everywhere in between.) I've seen excellent and horrible techs at each establishment.
If your having problems with a certain mechanic or shop, then find another mechanic or shop...that's it, or just learn how to do it yourself, simple as that.
06-22-2011 | 12:01 AM
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06-22-2011 | 12:35 AM
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That sounds pretty good. I know when I took my car to get new tires at DiscountTire they must use an air ratchet to tighten all the way because when I get home I check the torque. Every lug is different, some as low as 40 lbs and some as high as 90ish. Really wish places would finish lugs with a torque wrench to make sure they are good.
They're very professional around here.
Almost everyone needs a good tire shop, and if you need others things done, you just need to ask around for a good shop, watch them, and check for level and leaks before driving off.
I keep having trouble with service managers telling me it cost $130 to put plugs in a Dakota (yeah, its somewhat difficult), then, telling me on the phone after I leave that its $170. because it has coils on the plugs.
OF COURSE IT HAS COILS ON THE PLUGS!
And the service manager just looks up the hr price in a book so he's a BIG FAT LIAR.
This is the basic way shops rip off.
I even saw similiar at the eye DOCTOR.
My wife had dry eyes (lots of wind and dirt), and the DR was pissy with her (its dry here,OK? go get liquid tears at WM).
Then, the girl recepsionist starts prescibing when we paid, She might have gloucoma, you need our $150. test; the same one she got when eyes checked for glasses for $19.
Watch out of liars on anything to fit stuff not broken!
Know your labor people!
