mmats69

I'd like to know as well. Especially since the last 2 Nissan's I owned with a V-6 went 150k+ without that problem.

neXib

This is a weird place. There's like a billion people owning the car telling you that it has no torque. What kind of cars are you all coming from? Mustangs ? That's not even a car compared to the 8.

In my area I'll assume the 8 is faster than atleast 95% of what I'll meet on my trip to the next town. The only problem with the 8 not doing under 6.5 seconds 0-60 is that it looks so f...in good that you'd think it does 0-60 in 3 seconds.

I have been dreaming about this car since it came out and have drooled everytime someone drove past me in an 8. I don't give a **** if nobody but me likes it (but they do!), I've read everything there is to read about the car, if **** happens it happens. I want this car, it's not a sensible option to own a car moneywise anyway. Next week I'll hopefully pick my WB up if it passes import inspection. 70,000 dollars later including a shitload of government tax and crap, one sweetass car that I'll love like it's my baby

I suggest the OP do the same.

Shoafb

I had a 96 maxima that had 150k on it when I traded, never had any problems except for a starter soleoid at 90k.

If they are all blowing up at 70-100k I think that would be BIG news as that engine is produced in large numbers as RotoRocket pointed out. You should easilly be able to find that kind of problem with a google search.... but I got nothing. Nothing on the Nissan forums either.

RotoRocket

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$70,000 USD is devotion.

Congrats.

Razz1

2500 buck for a new motor .. that less than a valve job on a piston car.

New Yorker

First of all, you're seeing more '04s for sale because more '04s were sold than subsequent model years—so there's a lot of '04s out there. Also, since '04s are the oldest, the people who own them are more likely to be looking for a new car—after 4 or 5 years of ownership, people start wanting a new set of wheels.

'04 was the first year of production and, like many first-year cars, there were teething problems. Mostly affecting AT cars driven in hot climates. After buying a first year '75 VW Rabbit (yes, there are people here that old), I'll never buy a brand new model again. Realize that a lot of car stuff on forums tends to be about problems—it's human nature; people experiencing problems find their way to the Internet seeking information/solutions. Most people not having problems have no reason to find their way onto a forum and start threads saying "my car is fine".

If you search for the long-term (over 40K miles) road tests in Car and Driver and Road & Track, you'll see reliability was rated average and excellent. Consumer Reports rates reliability as average, and just placed the 8 on its list of Recommended Cars (which must be average or higher in reliability). I've read everything I can find on the 8 and my hunch is that, overall, RX-8 reliability is about average compared to all other cars. I've had mine since 2/05 and have had no problems (unless you count nothing things like a squeaky clutch pedal or sunroof, both fixed). My car starts right up EVERY time, whether it's a hot, humid summer day or the middle of winter, and the engine has ALWAYS been as smooth and powerful as the day I bought it.

My 8 is as reliabile as my refrigerator, my desk lamp and my tape dispenser. (And more fun than the tape dispenser.)

motorvated

Thanks for all of the GREAT info guys. I have thought about insurance, and its not to bad. I have researched the past 2 days (thats hwy i havent responded...researched instead of talking) and learned a lot mofr about the 8. I drove one more manual, 05 with 67K miles. It was a fkn blast to drive!!! The guy actualy let me take it out alone, so i was gone for a little while. Had a great drive.

So considering I had another great drive in an RX8, and ive learned a lot of the cars themselves, and read up on the rotary motors/maintenance for them...Ive decided the 8 may very well be the car for me! Its sporty, comfortable, handles amazing, has a fantastic gearbox (i think) and the list goes on. I understand fully the gas mileage isnt great...but thats a given when buying a sports car. I appriciate all of the help. Needless to say, ill be shopping for an 05 6 speed 8...in pretty much any color.

Thanks again everybody! I look forward to reading more on the site and posting less.

05rex8

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^you won't regret the purchase--GL on finding your new 8

motorvated

thank you sir. I will not buy, until im 100% sure its the right one.

User24

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When I was 19 I could not dream of having a car.

Get some $500 car now, put yourself ahead in life later.

Slick8

Happened to my mother's Infiniti...

http://forums.maxima.org/5th-generat...r-ecu-bad.html

RotoRocket

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Thanks. First time I've heard of this. It's interesting. I wonder what the numbers are?

I'm reading that thread now.

04RX8man

Get the 8 youwill not b disappointed!!!

Shoafb

There are 100's of thousands of the VQ on the market though, yet the thread you linked to is only 2 pages long. Pretty small number of complaints.

Compare this to our very own " new engine " club thread that is 20 pages long.

delhi

my350z.com alone has 195 pages long with their tire issue that led to class action lawsuits.
and that's for that particular forum for that particular car model. The G35 coupe experience the same.
You need to spend some time in the Z forums or any VQ-oriented forums and you will quickly learn that those VQs have far more problems than one might think. Question is.... where to start? There are so many. It's easier to concentrate on a single car with a unique engine eh?
FWIW, Consumer Reports (4 million subscribers) state that the RX-8 is a recommended buy vs the 350Z which is not.

Shoafb

I've heard all about the allignment problems, those seem to be pretty significant and well founded. I really don't see all the problems with the VQ though.

Didn't consumer reports put a red dot on the 04 RX8? I don't know as I don't subscribe to CR, but someone else here stated as much.

I didn't intend to "pick" on the rotary engine. I just wanted to show what is percieved as a small problem in a niche car that doesn't sell in large volumes has garnered 20 pages on here. This may be exageratted as you say since most folks don't come on line to proclaim they have "no problems". Any problems with the VQ would likely be magnified as well.

The problem as stated that all VQ based autos will have issues between 70k and 100k should yeild HUGE amounts of complaints on line.

delhi

Don't know. How many Nissan Quest or Pathfinder forums are out there that are filled with enthusiasts let alone write about failed VQs? Something to note though if one were to spend time in the Z and G forums or any other rx-8 segment forums is that the engine problems are diverse ranging from fuel pump, intake plenum, camshaft, valves to emissions related issues whereas the RX-8 theme central around the rotary seals.
The CR rating for the rx-8 since 04 shows improvements to the point of gaining the "Recommended" stamp. Not so for the 350z/g35 twins. What does that tell me? yes, the early 04 rx-8 had issues. But Mazda worked resolve them. Not so with Nissan. Geez... i spent for too much time at the local library these days.

Shoafb

That tells me CR didn't like the 350z. What where thier complaints/issues that prevented a recomendation? I'm not surprised though, I would be a bit shy of buying one after hearing about all of the alignment issues. Tires aint cheap!

I won't even go down the "mazda resolved all thier issues" we will be here all night arguing!

simplec

I have an 05 RX-8. I can tell you insurance will not be cheap at your age and it gets horrible gas mileage. It drives like a dream and turns on a dime. Upkeep will cost as well. Nothing is inexpensive. Replacement tires that are decent will start around 200 a pop. I love my car though. It's a passion. If you want it go for it! Otherwise, you'll find yourself always wondering and years down the road you'll want to buy. Mine came with an above average 4 year, 50,000 mile warranty. I just received in the mail some paperwork and claim info for the rotory engine. They gave me an 8 year, 100,000 mile warranty on the core components of the engine. Take it for a test drive- if you see someone that has one ask them in person if they like it. Then make a decision. To me, it was worth every penny!

rled

I have 62k on my 04 mt and still have the original engine , coils,and transmission , The cars runs as good as the day I got it. I don't abuse it or race it but I do redline about once a week and add4oz of mmo at fill up. I have had only one issue with a switch on the intake. It is my daily driver and I don't get horrible gas mileage.Average 21mpg. The torque numbers are kinda deceiving. This car is plenty quick and a hell of a lot of fun to drive especially if you like shifting gears. Buy a well cared for car and enjoy.

motorvated

OK..thanks. I know that the insurance is expensive, and i know that the tires are expensive. Ive had many sports car (even though im 19) so i know what to expect as far as "this wont be the most cost effective way to travel" I get all of that thanks.

Looking forward to getting my RX8 though. Im even building a nice parking spot for it lol

Kafka

Compare to other sports car, the Rx8 is a 4 DR SEDAN class.

And tell me any car other than Rx-8 that cost south of 30k with a HAND BUILT engine.

Go for what you love. You will street race less too when you know ur car is "weak sauce" and hence save you from more troubles

motorvated

I dont street race to begin with..A very close friend was killed by two crxs street racing...If Im racing, its on a track.

Kafka

If you can pay the gas, go for it.

I don't see any reason why not to get it. You are not an average customer. You're a car guy.

A car guy should know better than just 0-60 and mpg numbers.

Case closed.

motorvated

Im deffinatley a car guy
From 9 second camaro
to a lifted toyota with a turbo grand national motor on 38 boggers