Preferred gear shift MPH/RPM for up shifting/downshifting the RX-8....
#1
Preferred gear shift MPH/RPM for up shifting/downshifting the RX-8....
Please post by answering the following:
Transmission Type: (MT/AT)
(## MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd:
2nd to 3rd:
3rd to 4th:
4th to 5th:
5th to 6th:
Passing:
6th - 5th:
5th - 4th:
4th - 3rd:
3rd - 2nd:
2nd - 1st:
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th:
5th - 4th:
4th - 3rd:
3rd - 2nd:
2nd - 1st:
Transmission Type: (MT/AT)
(## MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd:
2nd to 3rd:
3rd to 4th:
4th to 5th:
5th to 6th:
Passing:
6th - 5th:
5th - 4th:
4th - 3rd:
3rd - 2nd:
2nd - 1st:
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th:
5th - 4th:
4th - 3rd:
3rd - 2nd:
2nd - 1st:
#2
My reply
Transmission Type: MT
Accelleration: Usually between 4000-4500 RPMs
1st to 2nd: 15 MPH
2nd to 3rd: 30 MPH
3rd to 4th: 40 MPH
4th to 5th: 50 MPH
5th to 6th: 60 MPH
Passing:
6th - 5th: Any speed > 60 MPH
5th - 4th: 50-60 MPH
4th - 3rd: 30-50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 0-30 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER GO IN FIRST WHEN STILL MOVING
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th: Any speed > 65 MPH
5th - 4th: 55-65 MPH
4th - 3rd: 40-50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: < 40 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER GO IN FIRST WHEN STILL MOVING
For entering a curve, it depends on the bend of curve. An extremely tight curve would require me to go from 6th to 3rd (or even 2nd if I am slowing down to under 20 MPH)
These are only approximations (or more like averages)
Just curious what will get posted for these
Transmission Type: MT
Accelleration: Usually between 4000-4500 RPMs
1st to 2nd: 15 MPH
2nd to 3rd: 30 MPH
3rd to 4th: 40 MPH
4th to 5th: 50 MPH
5th to 6th: 60 MPH
Passing:
6th - 5th: Any speed > 60 MPH
5th - 4th: 50-60 MPH
4th - 3rd: 30-50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 0-30 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER GO IN FIRST WHEN STILL MOVING
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th: Any speed > 65 MPH
5th - 4th: 55-65 MPH
4th - 3rd: 40-50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: < 40 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER GO IN FIRST WHEN STILL MOVING
For entering a curve, it depends on the bend of curve. An extremely tight curve would require me to go from 6th to 3rd (or even 2nd if I am slowing down to under 20 MPH)
These are only approximations (or more like averages)
Just curious what will get posted for these
#3
I usually shift b/n 5-6k rpms, all the time. :D I don't really pay attention to speeds or the rpms, but shift when it feels right. I downshift when I need the additional speed and rev-match. Don't know if this helps your thought process any.... :o
#5
Transmission Type: AT - 100% tiptronic
(MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
2nd to 3rd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
3rd to 4th: 3500 RPM, never have enough room to go above 3500 in 3rd really
Passing:
4th - 3rd: N/A, only time I ever even need to do a 4 -> 3 for power is when going up a hill at 50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 45 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER WHILE MOVING
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
4th - 3rd: >50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: >45 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER WHILE MOVING
(MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
2nd to 3rd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
3rd to 4th: 3500 RPM, never have enough room to go above 3500 in 3rd really
Passing:
4th - 3rd: N/A, only time I ever even need to do a 4 -> 3 for power is when going up a hill at 50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 45 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER WHILE MOVING
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
4th - 3rd: >50 MPH
3rd - 2nd: >45 MPH
2nd - 1st: NEVER WHILE MOVING
#7
Originally Posted by abbid
Transmission Type: (MT)
(## MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd to 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd to 4th: 9000RPM
4th to 5th: 9000RPM
5th to 6th: 9000RPM
Passing:
6th - 5th: 9000RPM
5th - 4th: 9000RPM
4th - 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd - 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd - 1st: 9000RPM
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th: 9000RPM
5th - 4th: 9000RPM
4th - 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd - 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd - 1st: 9000RPM
JK - the manual gives some good points :P
(## MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd to 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd to 4th: 9000RPM
4th to 5th: 9000RPM
5th to 6th: 9000RPM
Passing:
6th - 5th: 9000RPM
5th - 4th: 9000RPM
4th - 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd - 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd - 1st: 9000RPM
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th: 9000RPM
5th - 4th: 9000RPM
4th - 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd - 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd - 1st: 9000RPM
JK - the manual gives some good points :P
#8
Just wanted to see if people go more by RPM than MPH and what the preferred RPM is.
Mine seems to be between 3000 (regular putzing around) and 5000 (fun driving)
However the owners manual guages by MPH. I found that strange since I was taught to shift based on RPMs
Seems though I shift at higher RPMs in this car than I did in my Mustang.
But then the redline is at 9000
JOY :D
Mine seems to be between 3000 (regular putzing around) and 5000 (fun driving)
However the owners manual guages by MPH. I found that strange since I was taught to shift based on RPMs
Seems though I shift at higher RPMs in this car than I did in my Mustang.
But then the redline is at 9000
JOY :D
#9
Transmission Type: MT
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 15 MPH
2nd to 3rd: 30 MPH
3rd to 4th: 42 MPH
4th to 5th: 55 MPH
5th to 6th: 65 MPH
Passing:
6th - 5th: never
5th - 4th: never
4th - 3rd: 30 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 23 - 27 MPH
2nd - 1st: never
(added) 6th - 4th: 70+ MPH
(added) 6th - 3rd: 65 MPH
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th: 70 MPH
5th - 4th: 50 MPH
4th - 3rd: 45 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 35 MPH
2nd - 1st: never
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 15 MPH
2nd to 3rd: 30 MPH
3rd to 4th: 42 MPH
4th to 5th: 55 MPH
5th to 6th: 65 MPH
Passing:
6th - 5th: never
5th - 4th: never
4th - 3rd: 30 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 23 - 27 MPH
2nd - 1st: never
(added) 6th - 4th: 70+ MPH
(added) 6th - 3rd: 65 MPH
Entering a Curve (or other decelleration situations):
6th - 5th: 70 MPH
5th - 4th: 50 MPH
4th - 3rd: 45 MPH
3rd - 2nd: 35 MPH
2nd - 1st: never
Last edited by Xyntax; 08-27-2005 at 12:57 AM.
#10
i usually shift at 2.5k-4k... i feel guilty and my wallet seems to grow thinner when i shift at 4k+
of course when i feel spirited i tend to shift in the 7k 8k at times...
but at least once a day i redline to u know "clean" out the rotors of any unused gas
of course when i feel spirited i tend to shift in the 7k 8k at times...
but at least once a day i redline to u know "clean" out the rotors of any unused gas
#11
The 6-speed is there for marketing reasons. The engine's torque curve is so flat that 4 or 5 ratios is plenty.
I don't use 5th even once a month. Shifts are often 1-2-4, 1-2-3-6, and always 4-6 when I'm transitioning into cruise.
Shift points range between 5000 and 9000 depending on what's happening.
Four speeds at the current ratios plus a fifth about 10-15% longer than the current 6th would be ideal. Cruise 70-75 at about 3000 rpm. But the buff books would hate it so it will never be done.
I don't use 5th even once a month. Shifts are often 1-2-4, 1-2-3-6, and always 4-6 when I'm transitioning into cruise.
Shift points range between 5000 and 9000 depending on what's happening.
Four speeds at the current ratios plus a fifth about 10-15% longer than the current 6th would be ideal. Cruise 70-75 at about 3000 rpm. But the buff books would hate it so it will never be done.
#14
Originally Posted by mitty
The 6-speed is there for marketing reasons. The engine's torque curve is so flat that 4 or 5 ratios is plenty.
I don't use 5th even once a month. Shifts are often 1-2-4, 1-2-3-6, and always 4-6 when I'm transitioning into cruise.
Shift points range between 5000 and 9000 depending on what's happening.
Four speeds at the current ratios plus a fifth about 10-15% longer than the current 6th would be ideal. Cruise 70-75 at about 3000 rpm. But the buff books would hate it so it will never be done.
I don't use 5th even once a month. Shifts are often 1-2-4, 1-2-3-6, and always 4-6 when I'm transitioning into cruise.
Shift points range between 5000 and 9000 depending on what's happening.
Four speeds at the current ratios plus a fifth about 10-15% longer than the current 6th would be ideal. Cruise 70-75 at about 3000 rpm. But the buff books would hate it so it will never be done.
#15
I normally drive betwen 4k and 6k. Up shift at around 5.5k (by ear, don't really look at the gauges). Downshit with a quick tap to the gas, so it normally goes above 6k then engage the down gear and release clutch at around 4.5k.
At least once a day I try to go 1,2,4,6 then 6,5,3,2 at the high ratio (6.5k to 8k). will get the 9k at leat a couple of times a week.
Gas milage is not an issue. I used to get 12 to 14 mpg on my 911 so no big deal.
At least once a day I try to go 1,2,4,6 then 6,5,3,2 at the high ratio (6.5k to 8k). will get the 9k at leat a couple of times a week.
Gas milage is not an issue. I used to get 12 to 14 mpg on my 911 so no big deal.
#16
I'm new to driving stick, but it seems to me why not downshift to 1st when you're creeping very slowly, like 1 or 2mph? That seems to me that you're almost at a stop... I blip the throttle before engaging 1st in that situation.
#17
Originally Posted by Astral
I'm new to driving stick, but it seems to me why not downshift to 1st when you're creeping very slowly, like 1 or 2mph? That seems to me that you're almost at a stop... I blip the throttle before engaging 1st in that situation.
Cops must hate me, I have never rolled the stop sign in RX-8 :D. I almost always wait till the car stops completely and zero is on the speedo :p
#18
Originally Posted by Dima26
Cops must hate me, I have never rolled the stop sign in RX-8 :D. I almost always wait till the car stops completely and zero is on the speedo :p
#19
regular driving:
upshifts 2.5k -3k rpm
downshifts into 4 at 30mph
into 3 at 20mph
into 2 at ~12mph
into 1 at ~5-6mph
(note, i don't hit all those gears when slowing down, just the which gear i go into based on need and what speed i'm traveling at)
spirited driving:
upshifts ~6.5k rpm
downshifts depends on reason. double clutch rev match and choose the gear i want
passing at ~40mph -> 2nd
passing at ~60mph -> 3rd
upshifts 2.5k -3k rpm
downshifts into 4 at 30mph
into 3 at 20mph
into 2 at ~12mph
into 1 at ~5-6mph
(note, i don't hit all those gears when slowing down, just the which gear i go into based on need and what speed i'm traveling at)
spirited driving:
upshifts ~6.5k rpm
downshifts depends on reason. double clutch rev match and choose the gear i want
passing at ~40mph -> 2nd
passing at ~60mph -> 3rd
Originally Posted by SDRacer87
if you shifted at redline in first you'd have a hard time getting into second.
#21
Originally Posted by Nemesis8
Hardly ever look at the tach, I just go by sound and feel - too busy watching my line in and out of curves. A heads up RPM readout would be nice to have on the windshield though.
#22
Originally Posted by brightnova
Nah, you'd still go by sound and feel. Anyone driving a stick for a few years does that.
#23
Originally Posted by abbid
Transmission Type: (MT)
(## MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd to 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd to 4th: 9000RPM
4th to 5th: 9000RPM
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(## MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 9000RPM
2nd to 3rd: 9000RPM
3rd to 4th: 9000RPM
4th to 5th: 9000RPM
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#24
Originally Posted by Dima26
For me the highest speed I would engage the first gear is 4 mph. I think there will be no harm for the tranny if you downshift to 1st at this speed, especially if you blip the throttle a little bit to rev-match.
Cops must hate me, I have never rolled the stop sign in RX-8 :D. I almost always wait till the car stops completely and zero is on the speedo :p
Cops must hate me, I have never rolled the stop sign in RX-8 :D. I almost always wait till the car stops completely and zero is on the speedo :p
However, if I do make a complete stop, I use first to get going again.
I don't seem to like the feel of the transmission from 1st to 2nd. Seems that the car doesn't have enough pep when going into second unless I push it in 1st to around 5000 RPM. But then, I still get a smooth almost undetectable shift into 2nd (esp uphill).
#25
(MPH or RPMs - Please note)
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
2nd to 3rd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
3rd to 4th: 3500 RPM, never have enough room to go above 3500 in 3rd really
Accelleration:
1st to 2nd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
2nd to 3rd: 3500 RPM, 5000 RPM for spirited driving
3rd to 4th: 3500 RPM, never have enough room to go above 3500 in 3rd really
-R.