R U Bringing your 8 back to Mazda? Tell us!!! PLEASE!
#176
This is a fantastic car and easily the fastest and nicest car I have ever owned. I am returning mine to Mazda because I am averaging 14.5 MPG. I will not drive a gas hog and this is certainly one. I've already purchased a new MR2 with the sequential manual. Got 31.5 on xway and 26.5 in my first tank of mixed. Almost as fast and I'm not wasting resources or pouring out twice as much CO2 as I should be.
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i got my rx8 a month ago after that its making me crazy.after 100 miles the oil light came several times,after that the clutch sound,
the a/c its not working properly,now i am waiting from mazda with the paperwork and every day they said tomorrow.still waiting,and i like to see the campaing in the news because most of the people don't know what's happening with this car in P.R.
the a/c its not working properly,now i am waiting from mazda with the paperwork and every day they said tomorrow.still waiting,and i like to see the campaing in the news because most of the people don't know what's happening with this car in P.R.
#178
I got word today (Friday, September 26th) that my RX-8 will be ready (checks have arrived at the dealership) to be returned on Monday. I have enjoyed it and think that maybe in a year or so will look into possibly buying another one. In the meantime, I'll enjoy my G35 coupe already purchased during the wait for the RX-8 to be returned.
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For those who are too happy
Some people just can't handle the idea that some others are not happy about Mazda and the RX-8.
At times it gets a bit frustrating, as we already know your feelings that it is "just perfect, and nothing can spoil your experience".
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At times it gets a bit frustrating, as we already know your feelings that it is "just perfect, and nothing can spoil your experience".
This picture is for you!
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I have to wonder what other problems might pop up with the RX-8 as people
put mor mileage on the car. In addition, those now purchasing the car are unaware of the problems most of us have experienced. I really feel that the man upstairs was looking out for us early bird purchasers giving us the choice of wether or not we want to keep the car. 2 more weeks and bye bye. lilhondi silver RX-8, 6 speed touring PKG
put mor mileage on the car. In addition, those now purchasing the car are unaware of the problems most of us have experienced. I really feel that the man upstairs was looking out for us early bird purchasers giving us the choice of wether or not we want to keep the car. 2 more weeks and bye bye. lilhondi silver RX-8, 6 speed touring PKG
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After talking to Mazda and them representing that I should get the full purchase price back including dealer addons, I sent in my buy-back slip last week along with the bill of sale/contact. I received a message from Mazda Canada today saying they are ready to process the buy back but are unwilling to repurchase / refund the dealer add ons - rust-proof module, leather guard, paint coat etc. Has anyone else run into this issue?
This knocks a big chunk of change of the repurchase. ( I never went wrong with the paint coat before as it has kept the finish on my other vehicles looking fine - the leather guard was a waste of cash and looks even more so now but it was essentially offest but a package discount.)
The rust proof module is removeable but I am not sure about the transferability of the warranty for it.
The rest of these items are on the car - they weren't aftermarket add ons they were part of the original sale albeit with the dealer, not Mazda Canada. This was a package deal but then split up on the bill of sale.
Not such a good deal now. May have to rethink this. Looking at the acknowledgement, I have not declined the offer so I could argue the Maintenance package offer should still stand.
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This knocks a big chunk of change of the repurchase. ( I never went wrong with the paint coat before as it has kept the finish on my other vehicles looking fine - the leather guard was a waste of cash and looks even more so now but it was essentially offest but a package discount.)
The rust proof module is removeable but I am not sure about the transferability of the warranty for it.
The rest of these items are on the car - they weren't aftermarket add ons they were part of the original sale albeit with the dealer, not Mazda Canada. This was a package deal but then split up on the bill of sale.
Not such a good deal now. May have to rethink this. Looking at the acknowledgement, I have not declined the offer so I could argue the Maintenance package offer should still stand.
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#182
Just need to put the following quote into perspective.
"I have to wonder what other problems might pop up with the
--Honda Accord
--Mini Cooper
--350Z
--BMW 5 Series
--Infiniti G35
--Nissan Murano
--Infiniti FX
--Toyota Scion
--Mazda6
--BMW Z4
as people put more mileage on the car. In addition, those now purchasing the car are unaware of the problems
A FEW
of us have experienced."
Let's be accurate, here. All the above models, like the RX8, have been released in the last 12months. All of them have their little quirks that may or may not be addressed by their manufacturers. Some of the people who bought them, given the opportunity, would return them if given the chance. All of them are some pretty highly regarded cars, as is the RX8.
Make no mistake, a very small percentage of the original RX8 owners are returning their cars. Mazda says it's somewhere between 2%-5%. That's between 60 and 150 of over 3,000 buyers that qualify via the letter. Pretty small number if you ask me.
"I have to wonder what other problems might pop up with the
--Honda Accord
--Mini Cooper
--350Z
--BMW 5 Series
--Infiniti G35
--Nissan Murano
--Infiniti FX
--Toyota Scion
--Mazda6
--BMW Z4
as people put more mileage on the car. In addition, those now purchasing the car are unaware of the problems
A FEW
of us have experienced."
Let's be accurate, here. All the above models, like the RX8, have been released in the last 12months. All of them have their little quirks that may or may not be addressed by their manufacturers. Some of the people who bought them, given the opportunity, would return them if given the chance. All of them are some pretty highly regarded cars, as is the RX8.
Make no mistake, a very small percentage of the original RX8 owners are returning their cars. Mazda says it's somewhere between 2%-5%. That's between 60 and 150 of over 3,000 buyers that qualify via the letter. Pretty small number if you ask me.
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radarguy, check the canada forum maybe give mazda a call and talk to Richard. This seems unfair, dealer options were part of the purchase I can't see them not paying for that!
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Originally posted by canzoomer
Some people just can't handle the idea that some others are not happy about Mazda and the RX-8.
At times it gets a bit frustrating, as we already know your feelings that it is "just perfect, and nothing can spoil your experience".
Some people just can't handle the idea that some others are not happy about Mazda and the RX-8.
At times it gets a bit frustrating, as we already know your feelings that it is "just perfect, and nothing can spoil your experience".
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For those returning their car: After reading the thread about Mazda not wanting to pay for extra options that the dealer put on the RX-8's, I would like to respond. The only thing I added to my car was window tint after I purchased the car. Mazda refuses to pay for that and I undrrstand . I was told by mazda that the way you bought the car and drove off the lot is what they will pay for. If theMazda dealership added options on their own that you paid for, you should not be responsible. I would definitely speak to someone higher up about your option situation. I was told that the RX-8 comes from the factory with various options. Don't get ripped off! lilhondi
#186
After the RX is gone, you probably won't see as many of those of us hanging around that sent their cars back to Mazda. The cars are just now starting to be returned, so be patient and I'm sure that the forum will go back to a steadier place.
#187
Decided to give back my 8... for MPG!!
Well I have done alot of thinking on this, and in the final few days of the repurchase program I have decided to let my Titanium GT 6 speed go back to Mazda. It is really hurting me in alot of ways, including financially. (since I invested almost $800 in 3m coating- and I will be forfeitting the $500 plus service) ANd there is an emotiionsal and time investment in all the time spent detailing, etc)
My stats are - after 1500 miles I am never breaking 11 MPG in the city- regardless of gas used, driving styles, traction on/off.
I did get 16mpg highway, and am doing another highway test now, but I generally drive in the city, and while I am not unrealistic about what MPG I should get, I just feel like my engine is about the bottom of the heap in terms of MPG, and I should get out while I can.
It's just there are no answers for me. Mazda (after numerous calls) has given no insight whatsoever other than "try 91 octane." I spoke with a service tech at my dealer today about bringing it in (which I will do even after I get the repurchase under way- Mazda said I can always back out until I deliver the car) The tech said there is very little he can do ("it is a performance car after all..."- and that if the engine was running too rich, I would get a check engine light, and all he would do is run the codes to see if there are any errors (but he indicated if all else if running well- there probably will be no codes.) I will certainly give them a chance, but I need to get the paperwork in ASAP (and my dealer is about an hour away) I'm not optomistic.
I intend to purchase another 8 as soon as the refund comes, in exactly the same flavor of car I have now. I just wish I had more time to decide and give the dealer a chance to fix it. I should have brought it in earlier - but I guess I was in denial (hoping it would get better), and also it is a hassle- and the local NYC dealer (Mazda-Ford owned and opperated) I think is still closed for reconstruction, and they were often clueless about my Probe GT- which I brought to them numerous times in and out of warrenty and they failed to look at no brainers like the leaking overflow tank I clearly pointed out the first 2 times I brought it in.
My stats are - after 1500 miles I am never breaking 11 MPG in the city- regardless of gas used, driving styles, traction on/off.
I did get 16mpg highway, and am doing another highway test now, but I generally drive in the city, and while I am not unrealistic about what MPG I should get, I just feel like my engine is about the bottom of the heap in terms of MPG, and I should get out while I can.
It's just there are no answers for me. Mazda (after numerous calls) has given no insight whatsoever other than "try 91 octane." I spoke with a service tech at my dealer today about bringing it in (which I will do even after I get the repurchase under way- Mazda said I can always back out until I deliver the car) The tech said there is very little he can do ("it is a performance car after all..."- and that if the engine was running too rich, I would get a check engine light, and all he would do is run the codes to see if there are any errors (but he indicated if all else if running well- there probably will be no codes.) I will certainly give them a chance, but I need to get the paperwork in ASAP (and my dealer is about an hour away) I'm not optomistic.
I intend to purchase another 8 as soon as the refund comes, in exactly the same flavor of car I have now. I just wish I had more time to decide and give the dealer a chance to fix it. I should have brought it in earlier - but I guess I was in denial (hoping it would get better), and also it is a hassle- and the local NYC dealer (Mazda-Ford owned and opperated) I think is still closed for reconstruction, and they were often clueless about my Probe GT- which I brought to them numerous times in and out of warrenty and they failed to look at no brainers like the leaking overflow tank I clearly pointed out the first 2 times I brought it in.
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Re: Decided to give back my 8... for MPG!!
Originally posted by emailists
... I intend to purchase another 8 as soon as the refund comes, in exactly the same flavor of car I have now. ...
... I intend to purchase another 8 as soon as the refund comes, in exactly the same flavor of car I have now. ...
And where will you be if your replacement also gets 11MPG city?
I've always been very skeptical of the EPA's MPG estimates. I'm willing to bet that the EPA estimates are not based on "spirited" driving. Over the years, and with various cars, I've been lucky to average near the low end of the city MPG. (I live in the suburbs and don't have a regular commute.) My last tank was just over 15mpg which is up from the 13mpg for the previous 1,500 miles.
Dave
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I just received my letter from Mazda, can someone help me on this I have not gotten a call back from Mazda.
Do I get full sticker price back? What about any sales tax or registration fees. What if I paid over sticker. I would appreciate any help on these answers.
Thanks
If possible please send a response to mazda04rx8@msn.com
Thanks again.
Do I get full sticker price back? What about any sales tax or registration fees. What if I paid over sticker. I would appreciate any help on these answers.
Thanks
If possible please send a response to mazda04rx8@msn.com
Thanks again.
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People are returning them because they can.
Some are unhappy about MPG, some want a different color, some say "why not get a brand new car with thousands less miles on it for free." At least one poster mentioned they were going to sell theirs back and get a new one in spring so they didn't have to drive it in the winter salt/slush.
Next to no one is actually returning theirs because of HP; rather many people would return their cars for a variety of reasons if given a "free pass" like this one...
Some are unhappy about MPG, some want a different color, some say "why not get a brand new car with thousands less miles on it for free." At least one poster mentioned they were going to sell theirs back and get a new one in spring so they didn't have to drive it in the winter salt/slush.
Next to no one is actually returning theirs because of HP; rather many people would return their cars for a variety of reasons if given a "free pass" like this one...
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Re: Decided to give back my 8... for MPG!!
Originally posted by emailists
Well I have done alot of thinking on this, and in the final few days of the repurchase program I have decided to let my Titanium GT 6 speed go back to Mazda. It is really hurting me in alot of ways, including financially. (since I invested almost $800 in 3m coating- and I will be forfeitting the $500 plus service) ANd there is an emotiionsal and time investment in all the time spent detailing, etc)
My stats are - after 1500 miles I am never breaking 11 MPG in the city- regardless of gas used, driving styles, traction on/off.
Well I have done alot of thinking on this, and in the final few days of the repurchase program I have decided to let my Titanium GT 6 speed go back to Mazda. It is really hurting me in alot of ways, including financially. (since I invested almost $800 in 3m coating- and I will be forfeitting the $500 plus service) ANd there is an emotiionsal and time investment in all the time spent detailing, etc)
My stats are - after 1500 miles I am never breaking 11 MPG in the city- regardless of gas used, driving styles, traction on/off.
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If I could get the "right " person at Mazda on the phone, and they offered to let me keep the car another 4 weeks and see what developed I would jump at the chance. This would be a win / win deal for all parties concerned. I may try to get ahold of an exec, but I am doubtful that anyone with any decision making power will come to the phone. Maybe by the time I have to turn the car in, I will have hit the 2000 mile mark, who knows? Damn I would get in the car right now and drive for a few hours, but am battling the flu or just horrible allegies and dont feel like going anyplace.
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Originally posted by emailists
If I could get the "right " person at Mazda on the phone, and they offered to let me keep the car another 4 weeks and see what developed I would jump at the chance. This would be a win / win deal for all parties concerned. I may try to get ahold of an exec, but I am doubtful that anyone with any decision making power will come to the phone. Maybe by the time I have to turn the car in, I will have hit the 2000 mile mark, who knows? Damn I would get in the car right now and drive for a few hours, but am battling the flu or just horrible allegies and dont feel like going anyplace.
If I could get the "right " person at Mazda on the phone, and they offered to let me keep the car another 4 weeks and see what developed I would jump at the chance. This would be a win / win deal for all parties concerned. I may try to get ahold of an exec, but I am doubtful that anyone with any decision making power will come to the phone. Maybe by the time I have to turn the car in, I will have hit the 2000 mile mark, who knows? Damn I would get in the car right now and drive for a few hours, but am battling the flu or just horrible allegies and dont feel like going anyplace.
I also doubt that any "Mazda" exec is going to talk to you.
Mazda has given the "deadline" for decisions to be made. The reason for the deadline is to get the "offer letter" customers off the fence so Mazda can get on with the business they're in....that is making and selling car.
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Not necessarily...
Originally posted by mikeb
sorry to hear that
you are bringing it back right before the mpg goes up
sorry to hear that
you are bringing it back right before the mpg goes up
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Well after two weeks of me signing the release and faxing it back to Mazda on the buy back, I finally got my check today! That too entirely too long in my opinion. The turn in with the dealer went smoothly however. That was a bright spot in the ordeal.
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Yesterday, I received an E-Mail from Mazda telling me that my check was over- nighted to the dealership where I purchased my RX-8. They also told me that I would be receiving a call once the check was recieved, I did get a call this morning asking me to return the car, sign some papers, and pick up my check. Mazda will pay off the car with an over-night check once the dealer contacts them and tells them that I did turn in the car. Things have gone very smoothly. Mazda ordered my check on 9-22 and I turned in the car today 10-3. One day shy of 2 weeks. not bad. I am truly glad that this saga is now over. Honda had my new V_6 waiting for me. It's beautiful; black with beige leather, automatic transmission, 4 doors, with all the bells and whistles. Best of luck to everyone on this forum no matter what you decided to do with your RX-8. And thank you for all your help and answers to my questions, lilhondi I had a silver RX-8, 6 speed, touring PKG
#200
I turned mine in today 10/4 and picked up the check. The process was very smooth and quick. I will re visit the 8 in a year and hopefully some of the bugs will be worked out. FABULOUS car, sorry to see it go but it was the right decision for me. I saw a black one cruising today and admittedly had a little seller's remorse.