I could care less who you are challenging, i'm just point out that you accuse someone of stat padding when you were doing it your self. thats pretty ironic.

Then you are always mad at people who mention accleration when comparing the rx8 to faster cars, yet you seem to be the one thats always pulling out these rx8 0-60 1/4 stats whenever you have a chance. It seems hypocritical to me, if you really believe that acceleration is overated or whatever, you shouldnt care what Ike or anyone else say about some colbalt being faster than a rx8. yet you appear obsessed with these straight line numbers.

 

All threads like this do is motivate me to buy a nitrous oxide kit. Nothing like an ace up your sleeve in the form of instant horsepower on demand when one of these Cobalt SS automotive abortions starts talking smack.

 

nothing like a blown intake manifold up your sleeve either.

lol

 

Race him like a man. On a road course track for multiple laps. You'll own him for days. 1/4 mile drag races are bullshit unless you're John Force or his hot daughter.

 

nah, not in this forum...but funny to watch, reguardless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIM7BYrNbfE

no offense to anyone who can properly tune their nitrous...just a blanket statement i guess.

and packing nitrous, i wouldn't be surprised to hear that you've pulled on ALL the SS's.

 

Sweet, maybe you guys can compare g-tech times afterwards! You had better hope the SS you try to "eat for lunch" is stock.

P.S. Bottles are for babies.

 

Ok, let me just take my cheating turbo off.

Yeah, those "recipes" for 600whp Evos are far less intriguing than some dude putting a bottle on his RX-8 and thinking he's cool when he ruins his stupified fast g-tech times. Are you going to use this ricer logic when you run the SS, will you ask him to take off his supercharger?

 

Well, Wah, Wah. I likey my bottle!!! The driver is the number one mod you can have. I have seen guys in EVO's not break 14's. I have seen GTO's not break 14's. Does it matter? No. Some people were not meant to drive fast. Most of the eights that run at our track do not break 14's. I cannot beat my best time of 14.8 stock when I know guys are running 14.3's stock. The variables are countless.

Mag stats are pretty useless to the normal driver because a large percentage of these mag guys have serious seat time. Some cars are easy to drag and others are not?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYf5O...elated&search=

 

I haven't blown mine up. As a matter of fact, I have had no problems with mine unlike a lot of the NA stories you read about on this board. Regardless of your ridiculous "bottles are for babies" analogy, it never hurts to have that pocket horsepower.

 

Yeah, I have had turbos, nitrous, superchargers, chips, programers, etc, etc. And power is power. I have had people talk **** before for not disclosing, but if you don't ask then too bad. If anything, in my experience I would rather just have the power when I need it and be more reliable than have the problems associated with driving a tuned car daily (which I did for too long). That is what I like about the nitrous. It's there when you need it and not when you don't. Nitrous is a perfect fit for the RX8. I have seen the pitfalls of turbocharging a non turbo car too many times. Not to say that it cannot be done reliably but for the person who cannot install and tune themselves it gets way too expensive if you do not have a great shop in your area.

The problem with cars that are easy to add power to (DSM's, F Bodies, WRX's, etc.) is that it gets addictive and eventually something usually breaks in a bad way.

 

I would agree with this if you were just talking about street racing . For all other uses it is totally impractical and therefore not such a good fit.

Most rx8 drivers looking for more performance probably like driving hard on twisty roads mixed in with the odd track day - so whatever FI method they get needs to be there all the time.

 

Until you've done just about every other mod I feel adding nirtous is lame, especially a car that's pretty close to stock otherwise. I understand the points you guys make, I just want my car to be fast at any time and not have to worry about if my bottle is empty of not. Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt nitrous can be a lot of fun. Lastly, I don't recall ever saying N2O was cheating.

9k, I agree with you about adding FI to N/A cars. It's not just bolting on some parts like some of the less experienced people here seem to treat it. When you add FI to an N/A car in most cases you just create a finicky highly tuned car that can have all sorts of things go wrong at any given moment.

Charles, I'll skip the Pinks offer. Losing my car because some guy with a slower car wants 15 lengths just doesn't sound like a whole lot of fun to me. If you're ever up in WI I'll gladly head to GLD with you. I'll buy beers and dinner afterwards and give you a hard time about your bottle

 

Nitrous would not be impractical if they would let us use it (straights) on a track day. It's so frustrating to see an 8 doing so well to get ahead and then getting walked on the straights.

It is funny though how so many useless comparisons get started on boards. I cannot tell you how many 350Z versus Mazdaspeed Protege debates I wasted my time on. Or how many Maxima vs. M5, M3, etc. debates I have seen. All are stupid and pointless but I still love to read and post. It's a very bad habit.

 

I'm not being cocky, but WRX sucks.......maybe cus the 3 I raced against were all wanna-be rice drivers or something, but my car is almost stock I still beat them quater-mile.......seems like the sti's turbo don't kick in until well above 3rd or 2nd gear, something like that, anyhow, I was almost 1 car ahead by then

again, I'm not saying our car owns all, just saying, when it comes to subaru on the road, rx-8 owns shitty subaru's(and their drivers, mostly the driver)

 

now back to original post, I think the cobalt is a good car, but I really hate the interior designs of American cars, they just look soooooo cheap, anyhow, SS are fast, but again, fast doesn't make it better, just makes it fast, kinda like a wife, having one that is uber sexy, but is a freaking frigid VS having a great one that gives..........what say u?

 

It's a safety problem. If you flip your car and catch fire, you don't want a pressurized bottle heating up in your trunk.

 

^ besides, in the case of the 8, it's a lot more fun keeping up with a car you have no business hanging with then the other way around.

 

much more fun to see cars in your rear view mirror, I assure you, especially when they change lanes to get in front of you and they can't.....thats priceless

 

It's called a pressure relief valve. The bottle will have blown off long before N20 comes in contact with flames. When is the last time somone was hurt in a nitrous related fire outside of the pros? I have seen many cars catch fire at the track (both autox and drag) and none of them were running nitrous.

That has nothing to do with a WRX. A stock WRX runs low 14's easy. A STI will rape an 8 so bad in the quarter it is not even funny. Are you sure the STI was racing?

Oh, and Cobalt SS's are not "fast". A Z06 is fast. A 911GT3 is fast. A Cobalt SS is just a "peppy" boy racer car.

 

9k, I'm pretty sure its a wrx STI, and like I said before, shitty azn driver, and YES I'm sure its an STI!,yes,yes,yes,yes, aha, yes

anyhow, I never look at car stats anyhow since I find them unreliable(proof, the damn car we're drivin) but I'll take your word for it that the STI will rape an 8........is my car male or female?

 

You said WRX's suck. That's a broad statement. I'm not talking stats. I'm talking I have beaten my own 8 in several drag runs driving my friends STI. I have seen many stock STI's run low 13's and the fastest stock 8 I have seen was at least a fullsecond slower in a 1/4 mile scenerio.

And I highly doubt the STI was racing because all he would have to do is get the car in any gear to beat an 8.

Oh, and in case you are retarded, "rape" is being used as a figure of speech.

 

The only way you beat an STI with a stock 8 in a quarter mile race is if the driver had one leg and had to let off the accelerator every time he shifted.

 

All valid points. But you still aren't allowed to use nitrous on road courses.

 

ahh, maybe thats why, or maybe he sucks at driving manual, either way

btw, 9k, I do know what rape means (and in case you are retarded, I was being sarcastic)
thankyou please come again

 

Word.

And yeah, Ford is in deep ****. One example is that I just read an article about Chrysler, MItsubishi, and Hyundai all having there engines built in the same factory and they manage to put out one engine every 1.8 man hours at about $30.00 and hour per union employee. The article said Toyota's engine plant makes an engine every 1 man hour at $15.00 and hour non union. And, since Toyota is based in Japan they also do not have the huge healthcare costs that GM and Ford have.