TRUOMEGA

Was just surfing utube and came across this video which shows how they converted water to hho gas. I assume the gas (which is combustible ) gets sucked in through the intake and blends in with the regular gas. The device is connected to the o2 sensor and will tell the computer that the engine doesnt need as much fuel because of the hho and so it will lean it out which will dramatically save in fuel costs. Not only does this save fuel (or so they claim) but it also steam cleans the engine of carbon and sludge.
So heres the website (as iv found there r many sites liek this) to buy the product runyourcarwithwater.org as iv seen the video. This is probably another scheme but wanted ur guys thoughts on the product.

8 Maniac

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I didnt pay a whole lot of attention... but I missed what he was calling "energy". he kept talking about how he's transferring the energy through things... but I never caught what the energy was supposed to be. I admit I skipped around though. It's most likely a scam... there are similar ways to do the same thing but I'm not sure if it's efficient enough to actually be used. There was a similar thing using hydrogen from water that I saw before and was tested to show that it didnt produce nearly enough hydrogen to do anything.

krijpipudht

Shortly, it works................. just like vortex generator.

Hydrogen does work great, like Mazda RX-8 Hydrogen RE. But that small bottle wont make any different or even close to what they claimed.

Who said 8 cant be "GREEN"

Eight

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Looks like a typical scam to me.

snowflakes

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real stuff. i learned about this in school and the man that was in the video[inventor/genius] did a seminar on this sometime ago about it. good stuff. and the energy is the electrons and something else, if orget but the electricity creates a synthetic combustion. idkkk....i dont care about gas prices anyways...lol =/

MTLbroker

I'm sure that there is some truth in the video's claims. It looks like low-temperature hydrolysis to break down water. But most of these claims have never been peer reviewed nor verified.

But then again, they said cold fusion was a scam and just recently, Japanese scientists have claimed a breakthrough in cold fusion.

For fun, do a search on Stan Meyer. That'll really get you going.

dillsrotary

Uh, no dice. Would you pump pure oxygen into your engine? let alon a rotary engine? The reality is if the technology was feasible the DOD would employ it already.

Red Devil

Absolutely. I can't see the link at the moment, but I assume this is where water is separated into hydrogen and oxygen - ignited - then turning back into a water compound. Basically, perpetual energy. If it worked as claimed, NASA would be a heck of a lot closer to going to Mars.

Silver06

These type of claims pop up every once in a while.

First, yes, it is real.... It is easy to separate gases from water by passing an electric current through the water. You can then burn the gasses (a flame; an engine, etc.)

More importantly, though, NO ONE has been able to defy the basic laws of physics regarding conservation of energy.

In layman's terms: It takes energy (from somewhere) to separate H2O into Hydrogen & Oxygen. The energy that is created by burning the H H and O is always less than the energy that is used to separate it. There is ALWAYS an energy loss. No such thing as Perpetual Motion has EVER been Proven.

There are lots of technical articles. Search Google.

Socket7

The basic scientific principles are there. HHO gas is flammable. it can be made through electrolosis. It can be put into an engine to supplement or replace gasoline. You would need to tell the cars computer to lean out the fuel mixture.

The lie is in the fact that their kit won't actually produce enough gas to do anything.

EdwardsB

The "goop" and the home light switch made me laugh...he does not sound very technical while talking and the whole thing just made me raise my bs flag.

Celronx

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My first reaction to this has always been that it's crap, but after thinking about it for a second, I think it probably would lower gasoline usage in a car.

Your car uses a certain amount of fuel to travel a certain distance running on gasoline. If you substitue the hydrogen in for some of the gasoline, you would use less gasoline. Your overall fuel mileage would go down because it would take energy to power the seperation of the water, but a part of that fuel would be hydrogen from the water.

I don't think they're trying for perpetual motion or energy, just using less gasoline by using a cheaper fuel.

It's probably not that simple but this has got me thinking. I'm going to do some research on this and check it out. My biggest question would be the difference in overall fuel mileage after the conversion. That's the key.

Cel

Silver06

The problem is that you are burning expensive gasoline to make the electricity to make the 'cheaper' fuel.

In order to make enough HHO to actually supplant the fuel used in your engine, you would need to run a massive (power consuming) alternator, which will consume more gasoline.

If any of these devices actually work (as far as fuel savings over time), then I'd love to see proof.

On the other hand, if you electrolyze hydrogen at home, using cheaper electricity; and then burn it in your car (a fuel cell is much more efficient than an internal combustion engine), you would have a savings.

Celronx

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I'm going to contradict myself. But after thinking about this some more, and reading Silver06's post, I've decided that it won't work. It is perpetual motion and does go against the laws of the conservation of energy.

If you have to use an extra 2hp from the motor to turn a bigger alternator to make the electricity to break the water down to HHO, you'd have to get enough hydrogen out of the water to produce more than 2hp in the motor to see any gains(that's extremely simplified, but it's the easiest way to explain it that I could think of). That's not how things work.

Now I feel stupid.........Thanks

dillsrotary

if a plane is on a conveyer belt, and the belt always matching the reverse speed of the plane, can the plane take off.....?










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nvrfalter

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hahahahah

Silver06

For goodness sake, don't. These guys have a very slick sales pitch that seems to make sense.

I know of investors in a Canadian public company who were taken in a couple of years ago by a hydrolysis scam. They didn't think about it before they spent their $.

The difference is that you thought about it and came to your own conclusions.

I, too, am prepared to change my opinion on this - but only after a peer-reviewed study in a reputable scientific journal.

daisuke

this is a bunch of bullshit, I crunched the numbers and he's full of it, also there are clones of this site with the same text, bunch of weasels out to get the suckers of the world

the websites claims that you can get 1800 gallons of HHO gas out of a quart of water, sure you can, you can also get 10 million gallons of that gas out of a quart of water, it's just the pressure of that gas that changes.

To fill 1800 gallons of space, your quart of water will evaporate into a pressure of just under 4 psi assuming you put it into a room that holds 1800 gallons and is at a perfect vacuum. To reach 14.7 psi which is normal room pressure you need to compress it to a volume of 488 gallons.

This is just another snake oil seller unless he has some form of patented catalyst that actually reduces the energy you need for electrolysis, in which case I'll gladly eat my words, but the pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo on his website makes me think he's full of ****

ken-x8

Running a car on water...that scam's been around as long as cars needed gasoline. In the old days they'd sell you a bottle of pills. Fill the tank with water, throw in a pill, and off you go. The con man would demonstrate on his own car. He'd be several states away (driving his two-tanked car) before his customers got their cars running again and could take chase.

About 20 years ago SAE's magazine "Automotive Engineering" fell for this big time. They got sucked in by a system that claimed to release the energy from aluminum. A spool of aluminum wire fed into a tank of water. The electricity used to refine aluminum from its ore would then be released, electrolyze the water, and release hydrogen as a fuel. Press releases on this system appeared fairly regularly for some time. They suddenly stopped with a notice that they would not appear again until after SAE looked into it further.

Ken

alz0rz

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yes

Spinning Sushi

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The Hydrogen RE is old news...