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Old 09-12-2006, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Elara
You're not going to get get an extension of the free scheduled maintenance, if that is what you were asking. It'll still be 48 months or 50k miles, whichever comes first. After that, you'll be paying for the scheduled maintenance.
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50K miles with free maintinance is still a hell of a deal. I would have tried to squeeze every dollar out of that it was worth, if it were me.
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Originally Posted by Elara
You're not going to get get an extension of the free scheduled maintenance, if that is what you were asking. It'll still be 48 months or 50k miles, whichever comes first. After that, you'll be paying for the scheduled maintenance.
Well, that's unadverturesome of you, and also completely baseless. The only ones who can answer this question are the folks at Mazda, and they did say that it was for the remainder of the warranty period.
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Originally Posted by X-SIN-X
I believe it was for any car that was delivered or ordered before 8/31/03.
Do you know if it was per owner or per car? I recently bought an '04 and I doubt it was originally ordered before 8/31/03, but supposing it was, would the free maintenance apply to my car? How would I find out?
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Originally Posted by gummyAvenger
Do you know if it was per owner or per car? I recently bought an '04 and I doubt it was originally ordered before 8/31/03, but supposing it was, would the free maintenance apply to my car? How would I find out?
The maintenance program was and is non-transferrable. It is personal to the original owner who pre-ordered the car because it is premised on the original mis-representation of horse power that was made to original buyers.
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Originally Posted by Haze
Well, that's unadverturesome of you, and also completely baseless. The only ones who can answer this question are the folks at Mazda, and they did say that it was for the remainder of the warranty period.
Where are you getting that from? Mine says nothing about free factory maintenance after the original terms of the offer(though I could be blind, I suppose) for those of us who had it, and my dealer confirmed that it wasn't extended. Now, the dealer's been wrong before, and usually is, in fact, but there is nothing in my paperwork for this extended warranty that says anything about extending that offer.
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[QUOTE=Elara]Where are you getting that from? Mine says nothing about free factory maintenance after the original terms of the offer(though I could be blind, I suppose) for those of us who had it, and my dealer confirmed that it wasn't extended. Now, the dealer's been wrong before, and usually is, in fact, but there is nothing in my paperwork for this extended warranty that says anything about extending that offer.[/QUOTE]

That was my reason for posting this thread. As it stands I am one year away or 25K miles away from expiration of the Free Factory Scheduled Maintence. How nice (and appropriate in my oppinion) would it be to get the Maintenance exteneded out the same as the Powertrain Waranty. Makes sense to me. Inquiring 8 owners want to know.
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Originally Posted by Elara
Where are you getting that from? Mine says nothing about free factory maintenance after the original terms of the offer(though I could be blind, I suppose) for those of us who had it, and my dealer confirmed that it wasn't extended. Now, the dealer's been wrong before, and usually is, in fact, but there is nothing in my paperwork for this extended warranty that says anything about extending that offer.
No, your dealer is right from his perspective. They have told him nothing about extending the service program. They have not included any information in the recall about extending that service program.

The language concerning -for the remainder of the warranty period- is in the original letter sent to us when we accepted their settlement offer for our claims based on the original horsepower misrepresentation. The only ones who can answer whether this service plan has also been extended is either MNAO or the court system.
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and neither of them will. The agreement was free maintinance for the warranty period specified as 48 mons/50,000 miles.
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and neither of them will. The agreement was free maintinance for the warranty period specified as 48 mons/50,000 miles.
Not specified, defined. There is a huge difference.
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either way they are not getting any more free maintinance.
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That's your opinion, and as I said before the only opinions that count are MNAOs and the courts. It's an arguable position.
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i think it is going to end up costing you more money/time/effort even if you DID fight them and get it than a years scheduled maintinance would be worth.
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Only if the action were fought on the basis of a single person's economic loss. Certified as a class, although a small class it could have legs. There is also the possibility of damages based on the contract as well since this would be a failure of consideration for the original settlement agreement. Anyway, it's all just noodling. Have a lovely.
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Originally Posted by Haze
Only if the action were fought on the basis of a single person's economic loss. Certified as a class, although a small class it could have legs. There is also the possibility of damages based on the contract as well since this would be a failure of consideration for the original settlement agreement. Anyway, it's all just noodling. Have a lovely.

So basically, you were arguing just to argue, and making assumptions without having talked to anyone at Mazda or your dealer.
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Yes, let's sue Mazda so we can get another year of free maintenance. We sure are in a country that likes to sue people. I get the free maintenance, and still doubt the extension applies to this situation.

If the powertrain fails on the extended period, it would be a free repair anyway. The only thing we won't get is free oil change. That amounts to 2-3 changes at $30 a piece. Not worth suing over.
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I was one who got the free maint. When I brought it in for the recall and the 30k service. My dealer told me that this is the last free service. It seems since I brought it in at four months or 5k miles I used up all my free oil&filter changes. I said I was on "Schedul 2". I'm retired now and am not driving alot. So should I loose those 18k of free service because I'm not driveing as much. I will surely not drive the 18k left in my last year of free service. Was he B.S. me or do I loose this??...."Otherside" or "Zoom44" would prob know.......
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would be nice for another free year... but i'm not expecting it
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Originally Posted by Elara
So basically, you were arguing just to argue, and making assumptions without having talked to anyone at Mazda or your dealer.
No. The original poster asked in this thread whether the service program would be extended along with the Warranty. I am simply trying to figure out whether it is worth asking the question of MNAO, but your statement that the program won't be is pretty much baseless. The dealer doesn't know because the absence of an answer is not an answer. There is no answer until someone asks the question of MNAO since MNAO has made no statement what so ever as to the maintenance program. I am just trying to fiigure out whether it is worth asking the question of them, and your assertion that your dealer just knows like the great almighty wizard is silly. It is also rude the way that you are asserting that you are somehow more privileged than me and that your answer is more important than mine. Goodbye.
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No. The original poster asked in this thread whether the service program would be extended along with the Warranty. I am simply trying to figure out whether it is worth asking the question of MNAO, but your statement that the program won't be is pretty much baseless. The dealer doesn't know because the absence of an answer is not an answer. There is no answer until someone asks the question of MNAO since MNAO has made no statement what so ever as to the maintenance program. I am just trying to fiigure out whether it is worth asking the question of them, and your assertion that your dealer just knows like the great almighty wizard is silly. It is also rude the way that you are asserting that you are somehow more privileged than me and that your answer is more important than mine. Goodbye.

We're not turning this into a flame war. I spoke with my dealer, who gave me an answer. You called me out, and all but told me I was an idiot and didn't know what I was talking about. I asked you were you got your information from, because it's entirely possible that I missed something(which I also said, if you'll go back and read my post). I also admitted that the dealer could be wrong, as they have been before. But at least I had the presence of mind to ask instead of trying to turn this into some kind of stupid fight. You are the one being rude, and you are the one with the baseless argument. And with that, I am done with this conversation.
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Originally Posted by Old Rotor
I was one who got the free maint. When I brought it in for the recall and the 30k service. My dealer told me that this is the last free service. It seems since I brought it in at four months or 5k miles I used up all my free oil&filter changes. I said I was on "Schedul 2". I'm retired now and am not driving alot. So should I loose those 18k of free service because I'm not driveing as much. I will surely not drive the 18k left in my last year of free service. Was he B.S. me or do I loose this??...."Otherside" or "Zoom44" would prob know.......
If you had the original free factory maintenance, they are full of it. I was on schedule two the entire 50k miles, and didn't have to argue more than twice, and that was only because they forgot. Once you're on a schedule, they can't switch it around on you. If they continue to give you problems, you need to call Mazda North America.
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That was my plan...thanks
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Originally Posted by Elara
We're not turning this into a flame war. I spoke with my dealer, who gave me an answer. You called me out, and all but told me I was an idiot and didn't know what I was talking about. I asked you were you got your information from, because it's entirely possible that I missed something(which I also said, if you'll go back and read my post). I also admitted that the dealer could be wrong, as they have been before. But at least I had the presence of mind to ask instead of trying to turn this into some kind of stupid fight. You are the one being rude, and you are the one with the baseless argument. And with that, I am done with this conversation.
This falls a little flat Elara. In my original post in this thread, I said where I got my source, which I repeated later. It was the original letter sent to us by Mazda when we were offered the buy back.

I did not "call you out". In your original post you simply stated that I was wrong with no source stated at all, and I told you that you were being unadventuresome and that your statement was baseless, and I later went on to say that not even a dealer can answer this question.

The point that I have been trying to make, is that I don't think that MNAO ever thought about whether extending the warranty would extend the service program. There is an argument that it did, and that is all that I have been saying to which you have been telling me that I must be wrong because your dealer said so. Your dealer, no dealer can say. They have not been told by MNAO. They have simply not heard from MNAO that it has been extended, and that is not a denial. It is simply silence. That is all that I have been trying to say.
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Originally Posted by Animagix
my car is an 04, only 18k miles. hehe.
Mine has 12K, nah nah!

I actually do drive it a lot, just been travelling a lot too....
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