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What I'm worried about is that if they find that something else is causing the engine failure then they will try and charge me or not honour the warranty.
Update, Kind of: Mazda dealerships official word is that they still don't know what the cause of the engine failures is. They are however very dead set on it being external and not the engine itself, testing OMP again ect. They have contacted Mazda Canada for help and they have no idea either. They have also mentioned that the warranty is being brought into question on whether or not they will cover another engine. It depends on what they find as a cause.
Will do, just gotta make sure my 8 makes it first, before I start dumping money into this. Gonna need the $$$ in case I have to ship her back to Calgary.
Update: Mazda is still testing the OMP to see if it caused the failure. They have also now let me know that if the cause of the engine failures is found to be external (ie. not the engine) then they will not honour the core engine warranty.
I wouldn't put up with that ****...the motor failed......they failed to diagnose the problem properly...and it failed again. That is supposed to be your problem?
As far as the OMP causing the failure...there is no way a motor will fail in 20Km from an OMP failure. unless it is injecting sand
Hell it will likely still have assembly lube in it after that short a time
Haha yes. Both the OMPs. And they said that if it isn't that they are gonna check the PCM...
If this was you guys would you be contacting Mazda Canada?
I'm really not sure what to do at this point. Or for that matter what to even argue, other than being a seriously frustrated and unsatisfied customer.
My understanding is that from a legal standpoint they don't have any obligation to honour the warranty if they can find an external cause.
I think if something external were causing an engine to fail you would see running issues with the engine immediately. A failing fuel pump won't cause the engine to lose compression within 20 minutes of run time. The issue lies in faulty assembly of the engine or in a faulty hard part on the rotor.
I highly doubt the S2 OMPS spray oil, if they did your consumption rate woule be nuts. But who knows what method they are using to test them. Sounds like bullshit to me, I will check the S2 FSM when I get home, I am curious to see what testing methods it describes.
They have said that they don't know what the spec is to test them and that's why they aren't actually sure whether it is indeed an issue. And that their is no testing methods to determine if it's working?
Maybe it's normal, maybe it isn't is pretty much what they said. They sent that "observation" to Mazda regional for their opinion
When I talk to the dealership service manager he does genuinely seem like he's trying to figure it out. That's why I haven't contacted Mazda Canada yet...Still unsure of if I should, but i'm kinda holding out until they screw me over or at least give me something to legitimately complain about
I dunno man, I just downloaded the S2 FSM from http://www.normalexception.net/index...documents-menu and there are a bunch of tests relating to the OMP's and OMP related hardware. Ask them specifically what they have tested. See if they bring up testing the metering oil pump driver.
I don't see any tests for testing the spraying of the pumps out of the car or with the injectors removed from the housings. Sounds like BS.
Here are the two description articles from my company's site. I can add all the other testing docs if you would like. There is one for testing the nozzles.
04-30-2015, 12:30 PM
They are working to diagnosis it more tomorrow so hopefully then i'll have something.
