I called Mazda this morning - they mentioned about 6% RX8's had been returned. Our local Mazda dealer has 25 RX8's out front - unsure if they are returns. Seems alittle high!

 

6% ???!!! When you take a swig out of a milk carton and its sour....do you throw the carton away or take another swig? Ya, just like the hp is only 6% less that its supposed to be.

 

Congratulations, you get the award for the most ridiculous metaphor yet attempted.

 

Well, if all car buyers had the oppertunity to return their car after a while, I think 6% would be ranked as pretty decent.

 

Six-percent of the approximately 3500 cars that were sold prior to the buy back is only about 210 extra RX-8s that will be on the used market. If the 6% number is correct, maybe the car won't take such a hit on depreciation after all.

 

Depreciation is determined by demand for the used car, so I think it's the bad publicity that Mazda is getting all over the internet that might play a bigger factor.

 

Those returned cars will not go into the market. The employee's get first dibs on them, and after that their probably trashed.

 

You yourself, nk_Rx8, sound like more part of the problem, than the solution. I see no 'bad publicity ... all over the internet', unless it's those that take quotes from post such as yours.

There is NOT 'bad publicity ... all over the internet' so get a grip... or better yet, prove your claims.... I'd like the evidence please (or a correction)!

 

on the contrary on publicity. I see the 8 getting rave reviews (everywhere but MSN) and nearly every pro review as spectacular. As far as depreciation, the Miata didn't falter any.

 

I dont understand the sour milk comparision

however six percent is small

 

It seems like 8 Rx8's are in the process of returning in Canada. Which is something like 2-3% so not too bad.

Although if you are worried about depreciation I don't think this car is the car to get. The RX8 is a sports car in my opinion but Mazda is trying to market the car as a sedan. It's not like a miata which is more of niche market.

I've noticed the S2000 has a REALLY low depreciation, only 48 were sold in Canada last year!

 

Resale value? Just check your local newspaper on 'RX-8 deals.' Local paper here says:

Over 20 available for immediate delivery
Save over $2400
6MT brand new $24,799

How long ago was the RX-8 introduced?

 

Well, the usual trollish suspects did not take long to crawl out.

Of course, we know the returned cars CAN NOT be resold, as they count as lemon law buybacks. OF course, a little thing like FACTS will not stand in the way of people who own other cars, but still have sooooo much time on thier hands that they can post here, for no reason I can see, Except envy.

Hey, hows your skyline? OHH thats right, not sold here.

Hey, anyone see the new ROAD&TRACK?

they have a fewnegative things to say about their long term z
on page 141 "Truth be told, their are a couple of editors on staff who have tired of the harsh ride and lack of luggage space...."

They go in with a list of good and bad points, but my point is made

But perhaps in the wrong place? Should I post this in a z site, even though I do not own it or have all that much interest?

NOt worth the time, since I have a family and a life.

REally guys, you are soooo sad, give it a rest.

AND WHY DONT YOU SCAN THAT ADD SO WE CAN ALL SEE IT, CUSE THEY ARE NOT DISCOUNTING THE CAR MUCH AT ALL.

Again, lets have some FACTS....

 

Umm, I really do not have to say anything..........

better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then to open it and prove that you are a fool!

 

Facts, dude, we're looking for facts. Hard to say what the "local newspaper" says when you don't even post your hometown. So pray tell, which dealer is saying this? Time and time again we've seen claims like this exposed as exaggerated hype and bait/switch. Tell us what dealer, and we'll see how many he's really got on the lot and how far below MSRP they really are.

 

That is pretty ghey... what does that have to do with anything... Besides his skyline would beat your Rx-8 into the ground!

 

Yeah, IF HE HAD ONE!!! A ferri would too, but he does not have one of them either 11

And while I am not a real good with the whole spelling thing, don't you mean "GAY"?

If you are going to insult me, please for gods sake at least SPELL THE INSULT RIGHT.

hey, If I had a vette Instead of my poor 8, I would be out cruising.

HMMMMMM, maybe you do not have one?

Welll, we know you do not have an 8, so why are you here again?

 

I cant quite believe this to be an actual fact. The cheapest RX8 I have seen in this area (PA) is 28-29K not inc tax, title and tags. Actually the price seems to have increased. ebay has been selling their RX8's at the same prices.

Regardless, I think the RX8 is a great car, and will hold its value for a while. We will just have to wait and see how the rest of the year pans out. If by chance the 8 does depreciate greatly after the first year (6000) ish, I'll probably sell mine

 

Some of you guys are getting way too defensive. I'm not even a troll. Read any of my past postings. I'm starting to see more and more flames on this forum when anyone says anything that is construed as negative.
So you don't think the fact that on every car forum, and every single car guy I know has read online about how it's a shame that Mazda may have been lying and may still be lying about specs is not bad publicity? I know people that were so close to pullin the trigger but are waiting, not because of less power, but because they are not sure if they can trust Mazda as a company. This is the result of negative publicity from the net.
So you yourself are sounding like one of the drones who have bought the car and must defend it at all cost, even against a post you perceive as an attack and is NOT. Publicity does not necessarily mean magazines or newspapers. Publicity also includes public forums. It's all public perception. Anyone who even considers this car is probably doing a little more reading than picking up a magazine at the store. Find me one forum that did not have a discussion on the HP issue, and then go even further and show me which one was all roses, without any criticisms about the way Mazda handled everything or that many people still think they are lying? Like I said, there is pleny of negative publicity out there.

 

:D Hahahaha, I have seen my share of patriotic troll-fighters on this site - and you are probably the most idiotic. You give other members on this forum a bad name. I don't really think you are capable of seeing these 'facts' since you obviously don't know any based on the statements you provided. :D (another grin)

1) I do own a Skyline, so order some Sam Adams and chill. (that is, if you are old enough)

2) I don't own a Z, so what Road and Track has to say about it means what? Am I suppose to care?

3) You want a scan of the discout on paper? Why? because you KNOW that NOBODY is discounting the car? Maybe you'd like to check this thread:
http://www.rx8forum.com/showthread.p...42000+discount

.... no need to apologize, I understand your frustration. btw: there is a scan of this ad on the dealership website. For the sake of entertainment though, I'll hold off on the link and wait for more doubts and insults to accumulate.

 

The RX-8 was never intended to be limited production. Mazda expects to sell MANY of them. This means that pricing will become competitive and you will be able to "deal" on them. The first owners paid a "premium" to get them sooner - that's all.

 

OK, so that might be one dealership having a hard time selling anything in a bad market. Still doesn't mean much. I've been to three Mazda dealerships recently here in VA and none of them are offering the RX-8 for below MSRP. One dealer had something like 26 RX-8's on his lot--none of them below MSRP.

 

Well, i didn't really think you were a ***** before, just uninformed. I can see now I was wrong. If you got something to say, then say it don't just bait for comments. check it out... a trolling troll. I don't get the point of the thread you link to. First off, it's in central valley which is like Cowtown USA. Did we expect this to be the hotbed of RX-8 activity where 2/3 the population is migrant workers and the rest drive ford/chevy pickups? somehow I'm missing the relevance.

Secondly, I am distinctly not impressed with the $299 lease. how's the car outfitted? How much down? What's the residual? Mileage allowance? Interest rate, or whatever they call it on leases. Length of the lease? They could get the monthly payment down to $199 by making these others terms crappy enough. In other words, you got nothin' backing you up.

Finally, we really did see a post earlier of a documented $2000 discount. Sure nuff, the dealer added crap like leather & paint protectant, underbody, locking lugs (note, half this stuff is from the factory free but the schmoe was marking up for it.) Then, he generously offered a $2K discount making the car a mere few hundred above sticker. Some deal. So if ya got something better post it and make us shut up. Otherwise, you gotta face the fact that your just a sexless drone with ur head where it don't belong. But I mean that in a nice way.

 

I don't disagree with you, 6MT RX-8's (yes, multiple, not singular demo units) under $25k is one hell of a deal. I think the RX-8 should have been sold at this price to begin with. Mazda can meet their sales goal much easier with this type of aggressive pricing.

 

Oh just stop the sugar-coated crap. Most of us here know what your real intentions are anyway. I'll have more respect for you if you just come out and tell us how your G35 is superior to the RX-8 and how much you hate Mazda (like you do over at Freshalloy.com)

BTW, you still haven't told us which dealer you saw the killer deal at your local paper