Red Devil

No, I don't see what you're saying. Unless you're the same guy that would say the 255bhp FD was underpowered vs. the 320bhp MkIV Supra. Because then you'd also be ignoring that the RX-7 depending on package could weigh up to 500lbs less.

HP numbers are great for magazines and bench jockeys, horrible for those that look under the surface and actually drive these cars.

And this mythical car that is being discussed, at ~2700lbs/~270bhp RX-7 - remember - Mazda does build very lightweight vs. the competition - would get "GOOD GAS MILAGE".

I'm sick and tired of near every member on this forum bitching about gas mileage. If you don't like it, don't purchase a rotary powered car. And further, take a look at the long term testing from several magazines and the RX-8 Renesis vs. G35c VQ long term mileage are near always within .5-1.5mpg of one another.

Smokin_LaLa

The 7 is coming back out when pigs fly outta my butt

Endgame

If Mazda did come out with it, and it could best STI's and Evo's and Z's I am game. BUT it MUST beat them (even if it did cost a bit more 35-40m) AND it must get goo gas mileage (TRUE 17-20 MPG street).

OR I am game if Mazda realeased it on par or JUST below Z performance, but offered a true Mazdaspeed package at the time of purchase that would alow the new 7 to best the above mentioned competition (suspension upgrades of course, brake upgrades, body cladding, intake, exhaust, unique tune, etc). Warranty applies of course and cost should be starting at 27m to a full MS package 37m.

wvumtnbkr

WoW! You guys are missing the point completely!

The RX-7 (as well as all previous RX cars) were relatively low cost, light weight, and had average HP. (with the exception of the 3rd gen which was a failure in all respects except performance)

THis is what the Rx-7 should be: Light weight, simple, handle good, and have the same HP as the 8. (Maybe even less).

Make it less than $25,000 and it should sell.

Everybody keeps talking about it how it needs to run with the competition. What competition? Show me an inexpensive, rwd, sports car (non roadster).

This car should not be designed to run with the Z's, STi's, Etc. It should be more in-line with the Elise, Cayman, etc.

Rob

danielk015

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Car and Driver also mentions that it is pretty sure the rx8 will be coming out.. just read itin the magazine where rx8 gets the win over the mustange, TT and 350Z.. With a few magazines talking about it, Mazda must be at least seriously considering it, if not already in the plans..

what they did say was that it leaves the rx8 in a bit of uncertainty.. seems like the rx8 wont change until/if the rx7 comes out around 2009ish

BOOSTD 7

This has to be the worst 'Future RX-7 discussion thread' ever.

Heritage, ever heard of it? The RX-7 is a Japanese icon, it represents light and nimble cars with a singular purpose - to put a smile on the drivers face. Either you get that, or you don't know what a RX-7 is all about.

Krankor

That's not what the RX-7 represents at all. What the RX-7 represents is a couple warm-up practice rounds so they could get up to speed on how to build an RX-8. <duck!>

RX26b

I don't see a $25K 4th gen 7 built off the current 8's platform as economically feasible. If it's utilizing all the same drivetrain components along with all new body panels (the concept pictured in the June R&T probably shares not one part of its shell with the 8) it'll come in at least as costly as its 4 door brother. So let's say it does sticker at $29K for a base to 8 grand higher for a fully optioned one. The end result (assuming the weights are equal) is a near replica of the 8 minus the 2 rear doors. I suppose they could sell the two side by side in showrooms, but they'd probably steal (already dwindling rotary) sales from one another. At that point one or both might have to be discontinued.

To me, the easiest solution to differentiating them would be to turbo the 7. It would be Mazda's pure sports car, afterall. In the spirit of the 3rd gen they should go after the cars you mentioned rather than the porker GT sportscar wannabes like the Z and upcoming Supra, which, if Toyota does bring to market has been rumored to carry many hundreds of extra pounds thanks to hybrid "technology" (which has absolutely no place in performance cars, unless said cars' purpose is to drive in stop-and-go traffic with speeds not exceeding 35 mph).

mac11

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you are all as stupid as the hyundai community i just got out of.

dillsrotary

^from the looks of that statement you're def from the hyundia community

CTrx8

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please enlighten us then. and any references to a tibi and you have to hand over your keys and never set foot in here again.

mac11

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15 freaking threads about the same thing and you are all pandering the same futile nonsense.

this is the only guy that has it right...


and on top of that...who gives a **** what its called as long as it is a good car, with a good rotary at a good price?

otakurx

I think we could see the re emergence of the RX-7 in the future, because it would see, the car still has enough if not more fame to it's name now. I would think they would make it smaller then the 8, a 2 seater and put a turbo or supercharged rotary in it. It would probably price around 30k and produce 300hp to 400hp. With that said, I don't think we would see anything till close to 2010. I think they would try and run the 8 and 7 at the same time having it be like the RX-7 and the Cosmo, which both had similar hp depending on options just one was a sedan the other a sports car.

SureShot

As was said, I suspect the RX-7 is history.

I'll say this again.
Mazda should build the Kabura.
Unique sexy styling, 3-seat, light weight, economical, - is a lot of pluses.
Then, after the brand builds momentum, offer a 2-set, lighter weight, rotary performane version.
The Kabura RX.

MazdaMonkey

Sure about that?

missinmahseven

Sure I'm sure. Until there's proof, it's all vaporware.

Renderings, drawings, and bad, yet wishful, Brenda Priddy "photographs" isn't proof.

Articles in any rag or online pub isn't proof.

Proof is such a car sitting right in front of me so I can touch it, sit in it, drive it.

Proof is having mazda say something official, something cast-in-stone (which they won't, they'd be stupid to tip their hand and let the other carmakers see what mazda's hand is.)

My hope is that yes, the 2-seat rotary rocket will be back someday. That hope has been in me since the day I sold my '84 Rx-7. That hope is why my username here is what it is. I am still missing my 7. The 8 is a super-fine car, but I"m still missinmahseven.

But until we can touch one, or we see a picture of Job 1 rolling off the assembly line at Hiroshima, it's all speculation.

iSP33D-for-J3SUS

Technically the next RX-7 would be the fourth generation, 7th Series.

The s7 "FE3S".

Cheers,
Cody

saturn

WTF is your problem? In the past week I've seen you be condescending or rude 4 or 5 times. If you don't like it, leave. If you stay, don't be such a douchebag.

grinn253

Actually, its like this:

Series 1 (1979–1980)
Series 2 (1981–1983)
Series 3 (1984–1985)
Series 4 (1986–1988)
Series 5 (1989–1992)
Series 6 (1992–1995)
Series 7 (1996–1998)
Series 8 (January 1999– August 2002)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_RX-7


Laters!
Edgardo

steven000e

RenoIV

Well said!

RCCAZ 1

Guys,

I agree that everything is pure speculation, but here's what I know to be TRUE.

Last year in Phoenix at the Grand Am races, Sylvan Tremblay told me that Mazda was committed to the RX-8 platform in North America through the 2012 model year. Also, about a month earlier, the Vice President of Sales and Marketing for Mazda North America told me that Mazda would always have a rotary-powered car in their product line. His quote to me was "the rotary engine is too much of who we are as a company to not have it in our lineup." With that being said, I think the earliest we'll probably see a new rotary car, be it RX-7 or whatever, is the 2012 to 2013 model year. The other hurdle for Mazda to clear is the tough go-forward requirements for clean emissions and fuel economy. Port injection is their only chance, so they're currently working hard to make that technology work. Time will tell!

mac11

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Do you mean direct injection?

RCCAZ 1

Yes. sorry Mac11. Typing too fast!

Also, as a follow on, I remember the Mazda VP telling me that there MAY be a year or two with overlap on rotary models when introducing one and phasing out the other, so with that being said, it could come earlier than 2012, but again, we'll see. I'm sure that FORD will have something to say about it in their ultimate wisdom

mac11

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hey come on, dont hate on ford too much. They did provide Mazda the b2000 and the famed Navajo. And don't forget all the probe guys that run around and say they have an MX6.

anyway, thanks for the first hand info.