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Old 12-10-2003 | 11:19 PM
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is rx-8 a lot slower than rsx type-s?

as i said
i have rsx type-s but i wanna get rx-8 (love the way it looks ^^)
i am not into fast or not but i just wanna know the fact be4 i buy rx-8

thax

my best time for stock was 15.3x
now i am doing 14.99~15.1x with i/h/e
how fast is stock rx-8?
Old 12-10-2003 | 11:30 PM
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Probably comparable to your modded RSX.
Old 12-11-2003 | 12:28 AM
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in the best motoring video "rotary reborn" they tested the 8 with a g35 (skyline coupe), s2k, wrx, the rsx but it was the integra type r (J SPEC RSX) and others...heads up the rsx did beat it in acceleration just by a fraction (around 50-70 mph) but keep in mind that it was the type r K20 engine...and the rsx is a little bit lighter...=(
Old 12-11-2003 | 12:37 AM
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Like Ike said, should run really close to your current car. Most times I've seen on the production US spec RX-8's put it between 14.8 and 15.2 stock.

The RX-8 "feels" a little faster than a stock RSX-S, not much, but a little faster.
Old 12-11-2003 | 12:49 AM
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What are your traps like JD?
Old 12-11-2003 | 12:56 AM
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I own both a modded RSX, and stock RX-8. I agree they are very close, but I think the RX-8 runs a slight bit faster. It is also easier to drive and shift which will give a better edge.

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Old 12-11-2003 | 01:16 AM
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I'd say the RSX has more of a "purple" ride, whereas the RX8 can best be described as "lippy"
Old 12-11-2003 | 01:30 AM
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I'd say the RSX has more of a "purple" ride, whereas the RX8 can best be described as "lippy"
I missed these ones in my English class back in Argentina:
"Purple" ride = ??
"Lippy" ride = ??

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Old 12-11-2003 | 01:32 AM
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It is also easier to drive and shift which will give a better edge.

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The 8 has a better feeling shifter than the RSX 6MT?
Old 12-11-2003 | 01:47 AM
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thax for all of your replay ^^

reason i wanna buy rx-8 is not for 1/4 mile but all of my friends try to stop me buying rx-8.
i am so in love with rx-8 now i can't think of any car that i wanna buy right now ^^
rx-8 is great car.
i just test drove demo rx-8.
it pulls harder than my rsx type-s at low end but i feel like as rx-8 rev higher i felt it is kinda lack of power?
i don't know how to explain this feeling. it is strong around 4k~7.5k rpm but after that it felt like it lossing power........
i don't know but i will buy rx-8 for sure ^^
i never drove mazda car be4 but rx-8 was more smoother than rsx type-s and s2k

thax again
i am looking for more infos about acceleration ^^
how you feel driving it everyday........etc
Old 12-11-2003 | 01:49 AM
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Originally posted by RX8-TX
The 8 has a better feeling shifter than the RSX 6MT?

Highly doubt that, it really doesn't get much better than the 6 speed Honda/Acura
Old 12-11-2003 | 01:50 AM
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What are your traps like JD?
my rsx trap at 96.8 mph
Old 12-11-2003 | 01:51 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Highly doubt that, it really doesn't get much better than the 6 speed Honda/Acura
i agree
for shifting rsx is much more smooth but for acceleration wise rx-8 is much more smooth
Old 12-11-2003 | 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Highly doubt that, it really doesn't get much better than the 6 speed Honda/Acura
I agree with that too. I test drove both the RSX-S and RX-8. The shifter feel on the RSX-S is more smooth, but not by much though. I preferred the size of the RX-8's shifter.

jdmlover79 should also consider that moving to the RX-8 gives him a better driving position (sits lower), rwd, better refinement (less road noise); and at the same time slightly better performance.
Old 12-11-2003 | 09:02 AM
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I traded in my '03 RSX Type S for my RX-8, AT, Sport and I found the 8 gets up a full head of steam quicker than the type s because the rotary gets up in the rpm/s quicker than the 4-cylinder in the Acura.

Although I had no negitive issues with the RSX other that it being a six-speed. If I were to really find fault with it would be that the car did not feel substantial enough. It felt...hollow! If that could be a word for it. The 8 is much more refined and comfortable to drive at the limit.
Old 12-11-2003 | 10:06 AM
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The RX-8 shifter is NOT better than the RSX-S in my opinion.

My roommate has an RX-8 and I drive an RSX-S so I've driven both extensively.

The RSX-S shifter is smoother, lighter, and more precise.

The RX-8 shifter feels more rubbery and vague than the RSX-S. It also requires higher effort shifts.

Both are fantastic cars, I absolutely love both cars. You can't really go wrong eith either.

If you want a little quicker acceleration, get hondata and tires for your RSX-S. Most people over on clubRSX with I/H/E/hondata/tires run low 14's, some even running high 13's.

If you want a better overall performance package, spend the extra money and get the RX-8. It won't run low 14's in the 1/4 mile without some modding (hopefully there will be mods soon), but it'll out handle just about anything on the road and is almost as practical as the RSX-S.
Old 12-11-2003 | 10:22 AM
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how is the rsx more practical than an rx-8??? My friend has an rsx type-s and I swear when I got regulated the the back seat it was not fun! The car is way too small..

Maybe on mileage the rsx would be more practical but when you and three other people want to get somewhere thats where the rx-8 shines!
Old 12-11-2003 | 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by bkterry13
The RX-8 shifter is NOT better than the RSX-S in my opinion.

My roommate has an RX-8 and I drive an RSX-S so I've driven both extensively.

The RSX-S shifter is smoother, lighter, and more precise.

The RX-8 shifter feels more rubbery and vague than the RSX-S. It also requires higher effort shifts.

Both are fantastic cars, I absolutely love both cars. You can't really go wrong eith either.

If you want a little quicker acceleration, get hondata and tires for your RSX-S. Most people over on clubRSX with I/H/E/hondata/tires run low 14's, some even running high 13's.

If you want a better overall performance package, spend the extra money and get the RX-8. It won't run low 14's in the 1/4 mile without some modding (hopefully there will be mods soon), but it'll out handle just about anything on the road and is almost as practical as the RSX-S.
Like you said, you own the RSX *snicker*... so of course you're going to say it's not better. You wouldn't want to look like you wasted your money on a POS.
Old 12-11-2003 | 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by bkterry13
The RX-8 shifter is NOT better than the RSX-S in my opinion.

My roommate has an RX-8 and I drive an RSX-S so I've driven both extensively.

The RSX-S shifter is smoother, lighter, and more precise.

The RX-8 shifter feels more rubbery and vague than the RSX-S. It also requires higher effort shifts.
perhaps it's because you're used to how your own car shifts which is why you feel the RX-8's shift is "rubbery" and "vague"...it took me a while to get used to how the 8 shifts and frankly, it shifts just fine...i've not driven an RSX so i cannot comment on which is better, but i've driven quite a few manuals and the RX-8 is just so short and sweet, i can't imagine anything better...

Both are fantastic cars, I absolutely love both cars. You can't really go wrong eith either.

If you want a little quicker acceleration, get hondata and tires for your RSX-S. Most people over on clubRSX with I/H/E/hondata/tires run low 14's, some even running high 13's.

If you want a better overall performance package, spend the extra money and get the RX-8. It won't run low 14's in the 1/4 mile without some modding (hopefully there will be mods soon), but it'll out handle just about anything on the road and is almost as practical as the RSX-S.
the RX-8 is still more practical than your 2-door RSX...i've sat in the backseat of an RSX and it reminded me of my 3000GT, the seats are there only for insurance purposes...in an RX-8 they're there because they function as actual passenger seats, and the suicide doors allow you to enter even without having to move the front seats forward at all...perhaps the only thing more practical about the RSX is gas mileage...but then i bought a sports car, not a Honda...i wasn't in it for economy

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Old 12-11-2003 | 11:21 AM
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It is more practical for me as it gets much better gas mileage and has more storage space and a much more flexible cargo area. I have a dog that I often drive around with and in the RSX I can just lay down the back seats and he has plenty of room due to the hatch layout. It also prevents dog hair from getting on the seats. In the RX-8, there is really no where to put him. The car is also much roomier up front, and you don't have that bulge in the floor on the passenger side. True head room in the back seat is tight if your over 5'9". I use the cargo area much more than the back seats.

If you routinely carry passengers in the back seat and have the money for the extra gas costs, then yes the RX-8 is more practical for you.

Geez, you guys are really sensative about your car. I love the RX-8, and if I was rich enough I would have bought one. I bought an RSX-S because total costs (Payments, insurance, and gas) are about $150 per month less than the RX-8. If I had the extra $150 per month I would have bought the RX-8, and I probably will but one in the future, but for now I just can't afford it.

The RX-8 shifter is one of the best I have ever used, but it is not as good as the RSX-S shifter. In my opinion, neither is as good as the s2k shifter.

Geez, say one negative thing about the car and you guys go nuts. I love the RX-8 probably as much as you guys do, but it's not perfect.
Old 12-11-2003 | 11:33 AM
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note... you never defined the word practical.. to you using the cargo space was practical.. to me carrying three friends is more important..

I am not jumping on you as I still think the rsx is a hot looking car.. (provided it doesn't have a shopping cart spoiler)

also I am 75 bucks a month cheaper on insurance than my friend who has an rsx.. same age and driving record. (4 doors is amazing)

and we know both cars are not perfect.

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Old 12-11-2003 | 11:51 AM
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^ thanks for clearing that up.

Insurnace for me is also a little higher than it would have been on the RX-8, only about $15 per month though. Those high rates from the much stolen integra and two door layout seem to drive up insurance costs on the RSX.

It's pretty amazing how low some of the rates are on the RX-8! I guess if you classify it as a 1.3 liter 4 door it really drives the cost down.
Old 12-11-2003 | 11:58 AM
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This is a great thread. In 2001, I was about to buy the RSX-S, but I heard about the RX8 and decided to wait. If my decision was between these two cars, I would pick the RSX-S.

In terms of performance, the RX8 is slightly better overall. Acceleration is essentially even between the two cars. Handling is close also as the RX8 has done better on the skidpad (though the RSX-S comes with some crappy tires) and the RSX-S does better in the slalom test. As for the real world, my subjective experience was that one was not clearly better than the other in handling. The RX8's brakes are vastly superior and IMHO, that will allow the RX8 to win by a small margin on a road course.

I prefer the RSX-S shifter as I found the RX8's to be a bit too rubbery (though still excellent overall). The RX8 sat a bit lower, which I liked. Rear visibility was better in the RSX-S. Interior was very close, but I preferred the RSX-S's slightly (Interior is not a big deal for me).

As for practicality, I was in the earlier poster's boat. I put my dog in the back more than people and the folding down seat and lack of the high tranmission tunnel made the RSX-S much more practical. In fact for a year and a half, I have been saying the RX8 should have been designed in a similar manner as the RSX-S (i.e. 2x2, 2 door coupe).

The RSX-S wins this contest, IMHO because of cost. The Grand Touring Package will run almost $10,000 higher than the RSX-S (Fully-Loaded). The difference is gas mileage is around 10 MPG in mixed driving. I also believe that the RSX-S will be more reliable and the cost of repairs should be lower as a result. I expect insurance costs on both to be about the same. Finally, Acuras tend to hold their resale value very well and Mazda's tend to depreciate significantly. Given that the RX8 is by no means a limited edtion model, I'd expect it to depreciate quicker.
Old 12-11-2003 | 12:24 PM
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Re: is rx-8 a lot slower than rsx type-s?

Originally posted by jdmlover79
as i said
i have rsx type-s but i wanna get rx-8 (love the way it looks ^^)
i am not into fast or not but i just wanna know the fact be4 i buy rx-8

thax

my best time for stock was 15.3x
now i am doing 14.99~15.1x with i/h/e
how fast is stock rx-8?
I had a 2003 Acura RSX Type-S. I loved the car... but traded it in for my RX-8 The RSX has pull when the vTec kicks in at (I forgot) around 5500 RPM.... but the RX-8 just feels a whole lot more powerful. It's also just an all-around better car. I like it much better than my RSX.
Old 12-11-2003 | 12:45 PM
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I think it's just personal preference. The RX-8 is a real sports car, or as close as to one as you can get. I like that. I don't consider the RSX a sports car or close to one.

It's tough to describe, but just drive 'em a lot you know what I mean.

You're going to have to take care of the RX-8 a lot more than the RSX... that is for sure! I think most RX-x drivers becomes enthusiasts that way.

RSX is a nice car. I've always loved Honda shifters but, it doesn't make a difference for me to actually care. As long as they can hold the power and they are placed in a good position, I'm all go. Though, I don't like long rubbery throws a la Jeeps and such. Then again, I'm a sports car type of guy.

I also consider Honda styling pretty lame. It's like it's designed by 60+ conservative types. Mazda takes chances and sometimes fail, but at least they try. Hell, my '93 RX-7 look pretty good compared next to the 8 and it's 10 years older! My old Honda looks like it's belongs to 80's fashion. Yuck. Then again, it was an Accord and not an Integra or RSX.


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