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Old 09-19-2007 | 12:08 PM
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Your response is really weak.

I could easily say the same thing to you. Why not get a 3rd gen Rx7? Why wuss out and get an Rx8 instead? Since the Rx7 is too much trouble and upkeep for you, then you should get Camry as well.
because I need to drive at least 3 hours to get to the closest *for sale* Rx-7 ?

getting a Rx8 is *wuss out* ?

How about a nice Warranty ? Plus I prefer everything new, I like that fresh smell.

Bite me.

Originally Posted by pf100
Did you know that if you took the price of your car, and the cost of all the mods you made to it, you could be driving a Lotus Elise by now?

Now that is a real sports car in every sense of the word. It is super light, and gives little attention to comfort. It puts performance before all else. That is the definition of a true sports car.
That might be the definition for you. Why didnt u get Lotus Elise then ? Oh wait, did you just "wuss out" ?

and just in case your sorry *** cannot read, this is *RX-8 Discussion*, not *General Automotive*. As long as its not Rx-8 related, I can bash it all I want.

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Old 09-19-2007 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Who said I hated the RX8 anyway? I actually like it. I dislike the fact that many people here talk about as if it was the only car in the world worth owning, and attack anyone who differs in opinion. I also dislike the fact that so many on here delude themselves into thinking it is a "true" sportscar and other cars aren't.

Oh, by the way, according to your signature you drive an automatic???????? That is really sad no matter what you are driving.


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Old 09-19-2007 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
That might be the definition for you.
That isn't my definition of a sports car. It's the generally accepted definition of a sports car, derived from the English definition started in the post WWII era. That definition was, "a small, lightweight 2 seater, with excellent handling and power to weight ratio, that could be raced without much fuss."

The RX8 is a cool GT type car. It isn't a pure sports car. That doesn't mean that it is a bad car or that I don't like it.

The fact is the original question was if it was worth dealing with the issues associated with this car. It is a fair question because there are other cars that perform as well or better, than have far less issues.

You told him to buy a Camry if he was worried.

I'm telling you that you wussed out because you needed a warranty. Since you are not worried about his concerns, then you shouldn't need a warranty. Since you are not worried about the reliability issues of the rotary, then get an Rx7 and start running with the fast cars.
Old 09-19-2007 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
if u ask those questions

You should go buy a Corolla or Camry and LEAVE US ALONE !
Apparently you don't like it when the same standards you use are applied to you.

If you really need that warranty, then a Camry is the car for you.
Old 09-19-2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Why didnt u get Lotus Elise then ?
Why would I get a Lotus Elise when for the same price I could get a Formula Ford car and race wheel to wheel at triple digit speeds?

Street cars are a huge waste of money. If you want to go fast, get a purpose built race machine like a shifter kart or a formula car.

For about 10k a shifter kart will destroy almost any street car on the planet, including really expensive supercars.
Old 09-19-2007 | 01:43 PM
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lol, I'm sorry I drive an automatic..........obviously all my other MT cars are not mentioned.........at least I can go faster than you.....in my automatic.....because obviously, I think you haven't got your driver license yet
Old 09-19-2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Who said I hated the RX8 anyway? I actually like it. I dislike the fact that many people here talk about as if it was the only car in the world worth owning, and attack anyone who differs in opinion. I also dislike the fact that so many on here delude themselves into thinking it is a "true" sportscar and other cars aren't.

Oh, by the way, according to your signature you drive an automatic???????? That is really sad no matter what you are driving.
Before I actually drove the car extensively, I really liked the car. It wasn't the RX7 but it was nice, had class, and handled well. After driving it and ppushing it, I realized that yes, the RX8 is a true sports car. People want to put it out of the class because it has some practicality to our societial needs. I think the only cars worth buying $15k-25k (in my opinion of course) are the RX8, Evo 8, S2000, 350Z, M3, and the Sti. I've driven all these cars, and I can honestly say that for the money the 8 takes it. I guess it really boils down to what you want. To me the 350Z is a wanna be sports car, yes it has power, looks nice, holds it line through a turn. But the fit and finish and overall quality is poor. The S2000, pre-04 was nice, when they went to the 2.2l it gave it no recognizable low end increase and made vtec feel about half the length. It's a nice car, but when I push the S2K into a turn, I don't trust it, and it wobbles. The feel isn't there for me. The Evo 8 and Sti, are both good cars if you like utility, especially if you live where it snows. They have tons of power, handle nice, but they look like a 16 year olds car, they offer no class, total quality, and make you feel like, "did I really pay this much for this?" That being said the Evo 8, I like a lot, with the MR you get a very nice package as far as performance, it really has every angle covered. Finally the M3, it's a very nice car, but BMWs are junk. The car performs very well and looks nice (although it dosen't look to far from a 328). BMWs try to be too futuristic w/o quality control, if you have one get that extended warranty, every thing falls apart, especially electronics. That being said, it's hard to find an M3 in that price range w/o 90K miles. All in all the RX8 is the clear choice for me, I know I made the right decision. I get about 18-19mpg, and since I commute 90 miles a day, I don't like it but hey it's not that bad. You won't find many cars that perform that well getting more than 22-23mpg. So whats a few extra bucks at the pump? Well thats my 2cents!
Old 09-19-2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by tajabaho1
lol, I'm sorry I drive an automatic..........obviously all my other MT cars are not mentioned.........at least I can go faster than you.....in my automatic.....because obviously, I think you haven't got your driver license yet

You can think whatever you want, because while you've been pouring money into street cars, I've been putting my money into my racing efforts.

So this weekend I'll either be racing a kart or a formula car, while you're driving on the street.

When the best you can do is modify your street car... now that is sad.

Oh yeah, and I'm fairly old. Thanks for complimenting me on my youthful nature.
Old 09-19-2007 | 02:28 PM
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I haven't been pouring money into street cars.......ask anyone

and yea ofcourse I'll be driving on the street, you drive rooftops?

and no actually, the best I can do would be succeeding in life, at least a tad bit more than you

and because you are fairly old, that makes you that much more pathetic
Old 09-19-2007 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Yes I saw that episode. However, only one guy said he liked the car. The other two were completely silent on the matter.

Not to mention that they didn't bother having the Stig drive it through the test track because they knew it wouldn't have posted a competitive time.

Yes the car is worth it. At the same time, there are other cars that will outperform it for about the same price.
I can't believe none of these guys corrected you yet. The Stig did indeed put it through its paces on the track. It tied the M3 and 350Z. Read what you want into the numbers. Many folks here like to remind us of different track conditions.

The definition of sports car is a moving target. Many old people think that a car with a roof is not a sports car.
Old 09-19-2007 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
You can think whatever you want, because while you've been pouring money into street cars, I've been putting my money into my racing efforts.

So this weekend I'll either be racing a kart or a formula car, while you're driving on the street.

When the best you can do is modify your street car... now that is sad.

Oh yeah, and I'm fairly old. Thanks for complimenting me on my youthful nature.
So that's what this is about? Well way to go, here's the virtual pat on the back you're looking for. Good job.

You're on a forum that exists solely for the purpose of discussing a production car and you're attacking members because they drive it on the street. The people here obviously have different requirements from an automobile than you. Have fun driving swinging by the grocery store in your formula car on your way home from work...
Old 09-19-2007 | 02:53 PM
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Old 09-19-2007 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Apparently you don't like it when the same standards you use are applied to you.

If you really need that warranty, then a Camry is the car for you.
lol

most people think Camry is more reliable. is it really ? maybe, so instead of whinning on rx8club.com, maybe he should of get a camry.

or u're too stupid to understand ?

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Old 09-19-2007 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Why would I get a Lotus Elise when for the same price I could get a Formula Ford car and race wheel to wheel at triple digit speeds?

Street cars are a huge waste of money. If you want to go fast, get a purpose built race machine like a shifter kart or a formula car.

For about 10k a shifter kart will destroy almost any street car on the planet, including really expensive supercars.
maybe u should try to drive ur super uber formula Ford car on the streets with Triple digit speed ?

Oh wait, u cant, cuz you're just talking out of your ***.

Originally Posted by pf100
That isn't my definition of a sports car. It's the generally accepted definition of a sports car, derived from the English definition started in the post WWII era. That definition was, "a small, lightweight 2 seater, with excellent handling and power to weight ratio, that could be raced without much fuss."

The RX8 is a cool GT type car. It isn't a pure sports car. That doesn't mean that it is a bad car or that I don't like it.

The fact is the original question was if it was worth dealing with the issues associated with this car. It is a fair question because there are other cars that perform as well or better, than have far less issues.

You told him to buy a Camry if he was worried.

I'm telling you that you wussed out because you needed a warranty. Since you are not worried about his concerns, then you shouldn't need a warranty. Since you are not worried about the reliability issues of the rotary, then get an Rx7 and start running with the fast cars.
lol, now we're talking about WWII ?

Alright, lets talk about the old days, we used to have horses to pull our *cars*, so should we all just ditch our engine and gasoline and strap a bunch of horses in front of our cars ?

I paid for my warranty. and I dont like anything used. Is there a problem ? wow, so that means millions of people are *wussed out* every year just because they got a new car ?

you really make no sense, when u were a baby did your mom dropped ur *** ? have you been taking your medications ?

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Old 09-19-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Oh, by the way, according to your signature you drive an automatic???????? That is really sad no matter what you are driving.
I don't get it..?
Old 09-19-2007 | 03:20 PM
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I don't get it..?
he is trying to tell us that he is a super duper 1337 race car driver. everyone who has a *street* car is just plain stupid, everyone should go to work with k Kart and drive in triple digit speed.
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I don't get it..?
You are missing out on a huge part of the driving experience by letting your car do the shifting for you. That's kind of sad.
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Originally Posted by pf100
You are missing out on a huge part of the driving experience by letting your car do the shifting for you. That's kind of sad.
Ferrari must be stupid to have automatics then.

Oh wait, street cars are stupid !

It must be dumb to even have computers ! cuz its doing the work for me ! ahhhh

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Old 09-19-2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
maybe u should try to drive ur super uber formula Ford car on the streets with Triple digit speed ?
Why would I want to drive my carbon fiber race car on the street?

To anyone who has actually done any real wheel to wheel racing on the track, spending money on a street car is like throwing money away.

You can never drive that fast on the street, and the second you do there are people waiting to get you in trouble for it.

I would take public transportation if it meant saving enough cash to race. The same goes for most people who have racing experience. The difference between racing on the track and driving on the street is huge.
Old 09-19-2007 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by pf100
Why would I want to drive my carbon fiber race car on the street?

To anyone who has actually done any real wheel to wheel racing on the track, spending money on a street car is like throwing money away.

You can never drive that fast on the street, and the second you do there are people waiting to get you in trouble for it.

I would take public transportation if it meant saving enough cash to race. The same goes for most people who have racing experience. The difference between racing on the track and driving on the street is huge.
yea yea yea yea yea blah blah blah. you know why you cant ? Cuz you're just talking out of your ***. not to mention is it legal to do so ?

We should all go back to the days where you have to use your hands to start your car, Starter and the battery these days are doing the job for us, no good !

if u need to take public transportation just to save enough cash to race. you already failed life.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
Ferrari must be stupid to have automatics then.

Oh wait, street cars are stupid !

It must be dumb to even have computers ! cuz its doing the work for me ! ahhhh
The gearbox on the Ferraris use an electric pump to operate the hydraulic clutch, and then shift. It is kind of an automated manual.

That is WAY different than the torque converter automatics found in most cars, even the ones that let you upshift or downshift.
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Originally Posted by pf100
The gearbox on the Ferraris use an electric pump to operate the hydraulic clutch, and then shift. It is kind of an automated manual.

That is WAY different than the torque converter automatics found in most cars, even the ones that let you upshift or downshift.
duh, but its still doing the work for us. No good ! its taking our driving experience away !

ahh, we should all go back to horses. oh wait, Thats still doing the work for us. we should all just walk.
Old 09-19-2007 | 03:40 PM
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Why would I want to drive my carbon fiber race car on the street?

To anyone who has actually done any real wheel to wheel racing on the track, spending money on a street car is like throwing money away.

You can never drive that fast on the street, and the second you do there are people waiting to get you in trouble for it.

I would take public transportation if it meant saving enough cash to race. The same goes for most people who have racing experience. The difference between racing on the track and driving on the street is huge.
Let it be known that if I had a carbon fiber race car, I'd drive it on the road.

The whole street vs track battle has its pros and cons, I'd love to race on a track but I don't have the hundreds of dollars to pay every outing and the thousands of dollars for required saftey equipment. I think kart racing is the best bet for exciting racing on a budget, other then that many people just like the thrill of driving the street cars fast on public roads, just be careful...if you're not running FI you risk getting caught by the cops hahahha
Old 09-19-2007 | 03:41 PM
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duh, but its still doing the work for us. No good ! its taking our driving experience away !

ahh, we should all go back to horses. oh wait, Thats still doing the work for us. we should all just walk.
I never said I was against all forms of technology. I only said that shifting is a hugely enjoyable part of the driving experience.

Why would anyone buy a car that is all about the driving experience, and then miss out on a huge part of it by getting an auto?

That's kind of sad.


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